Just out of curiosity....

Did you or anyone you know of bet Steelers ml (240ish) AND Cards +7? That would be a sweet hit.

Pretty new to sports betting and have been on the forum for a while now and have never heard of anyone doing this or even discussed doing it.

Wouldnt it be like a type of "middeling"?

Just popped in my head and was thinking about it. (420)

I imagine it wouldnt be a very profitable play over time.

But if you thought you capped a game reeeaaally good.......

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like say if steelers won AND covered the 7, then you would win the ML bet and lose Ari +7 bet. Falls between win both. Arizona wins SU, lose 1 bet win 1 bet, but lose big juice.

With the high juice on the ml, i dont know if the points in between team A's ml and team B's spread would have enough value to consider doing such a thing.

It would give you more outs to win money tho...

Am what im describing making sense or am I missing something obvious?

I played those in another capping tourney.

It would have won in this case, but most experienced bettors rarely make such a wager (or wagers) King.

You can consider that a middle I suppose, but a very expensive one with the ML.

Most middles come when a line opens up at, say Chicago -1.5, but then the line may rise to Chicago -3.5 for some reason or another, and then the player will take the other team at +3.5, hoping Chicago wins by 2-3 points.

From my experiences, the best value on middles can be found at halftime when you are already on a side or total, esepcially the NBA.

Some call it a hedge, but it's kind of both, and I call it a "Midge"

Let's I play Dallas/Oklahoma City Under 200 for the game.
At halftime, the score is 48-48.

That still gives me 104 points to spare in the 2nd half to hit my under.
The 2nd half total may be over/under 96.

But, I may then want to take OVER 96 for 2nd half, which does 2 things.

1: It gives me the chance to hit BOTH WAGERS because I have 7-8 points to play with, meaning as long as it goes over 96 2nd half, but stays under the 104 I still have to allow, I will hit my original play plus my 2nd half over.
2. It basically covers your behind just in case teams do catch fire in the 2nd half, or you noticed them heating up at the end of the 1st half & didn't like the way things were beginning to look, and if it goes over you original wager of under, that means it has gone over your 2nd half play on over 96 as well, which evens things out. (Except juice of course)

It's not something to do all of the time and some longtime bettors will tell you to stick with your original play if it is on pace to win, but I've had much success in the past with this in the NBA.

When the situation is right, you have a chance to win 2 wagers at no risk.
I've lost far too many NBA games in which I had an under & the 1st half was very low scoring, and then they explode in the 2nd half.
Problem is it takes time and you have to be around in front of the computer monitoring the games you played until halftime.
As I said, it depends on how things look going into halftime, stat-wise, if you saw a change in the teams just before halftime & don't feel good about it, etc.

How long you been at this King?

Hache Man said:

It would have won in this case, but most experienced bettors rarely make such a wager (or wagers) King.

You can consider that a middle I suppose, but a very expensive one with the ML.

Most middles come when a line opens up at, say Chicago -1.5, but then the line may rise to Chicago -3.5 for some reason or another, and then the player will take the other team at +3.5, hoping Chicago wins by 2-3 points.

From my experiences, the best value on middles can be found at halftime when you are already on a side or total, esepcially the NBA.

Some call it a hedge, but it's kind of both, and I call it a "Midge"

Let's I play Dallas/Oklahoma City Under 200 for the game.
At halftime, the score is 48-48.

That still gives me 104 points to spare in the 2nd half to hit my under.
The 2nd half total may be over/under 96.

But, I may then want to take OVER 96 for 2nd half, which does 2 things.

1: It gives me the chance to hit BOTH WAGERS because I have 7-8 points to play with, meaning as long as it goes over 96 2nd half, but stays under the 104 I still have to allow, I will hit my original play plus my 2nd half over.
2. It basically covers your behind just in case teams do catch fire in the 2nd half, or you noticed them heating up at the end of the 1st half & didn't like the way things were beginning to look, and if it goes over you original wager of under, that means it has gone over your 2nd half play on over 96 as well, which evens things out. (Except juice of course)

It's not something to do all of the time and some longtime bettors will tell you to stick with your original play if it is on pace to win, but I've had much success in the past with this in the NBA.

When the situation is right, you have a chance to win 2 wagers at no risk.
I've lost far too many NBA games in which I had an under & the 1st half was very low scoring, and then they explode in the 2nd half.
Problem is it takes time and you have to be around in front of the computer monitoring the games you played until halftime.
As I said, it depends on how things look going into halftime, stat-wise, if you saw a change in the teams just before halftime & don't feel good about it, etc.

How long you been at this King?

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You couldn't be more wrong...........

Many, many experienced bettors and wiseguys made this wager this past Superbowl..........including myself.

I actually found +7.5 early on and came back with Pitt ML on Saturday.

Fishhead said:

You couldn't be more wrong...........

Many, many experienced bettors and wiseguys made this wager this past Superbowl..........including myself.

I actually found +7.5 early on and came back with Pitt ML on Saturday.

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Congrats Fish

I also know a couple that did the same.

What I said or meant was most don't make those types of wagers on a regular basis.

Do you Fish?

Are you still in Tampa?

Hache Man said:

Congrats Fish

I also know a couple that did the same.

What I said or meant was most don't make those types of wagers on a regular basis.

Do you Fish?

Are you still in Tampa?

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No

Yes, still in Tampa. Playing 5-10 NL Hold em, video poker, and slots.

Fishhead said:

No

Yes, still in Tampa. Playing 5-10 NL Hold em, video poker, and slots.

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So still raking it in on the video poker & slots hugh?

That's something I definitely remember......

:toast:

I bet both Steelers ML -220 and Arizona +7.5-125, both at nearly the same time on Sunday before the game. I handicapped that there was more than a 25% chance that Pitt would win by 1 to 7.

I actually did something a bit different....

For the two weeks prior to the Super Bowl, I was putting in a teasers every night where I would tease the Steelers down to -1/2 with a college hoops game. Most of the front ends hit.

Then on Sunday, I played Arizona +7 with my local.

Worked out prettty well.

yeah it worked well in the SB, but that ML juice is expensive.

King83 said:

yeah it worked well in the SB, but that ML juice is expensive.

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-220 ml on a 7 point favorite is not expensive... quite the opposite. I talked to a sportsbook writer yesterdeay at Boulder station and He told me that out of every 10 Zona wagers, 9 were ml wagers. probably a exageration but getting + 180 on a + 7 underdog is highway robery and that is what I call a very very expensive ml wager ! I had some nice $$ on AFC +3 wagered earlier so I bet the
Steeler ml at - 220 because it was a steal and then I wagered the +7 on Zona to cover my wagers on Pitt. Collect, collect ,collect ! Zona + 180 to + 200 was major sucker bet IMHO

everybody and their brother made this wager

kermit16 said:

-220 ml on a 7 point favorite is not expensive... quite the opposite. I talked to a sportsbook writer yesterdeay at Boulder station and He told me that out of every 10 Zona wagers, 9 were ml wagers. probably a exageration but getting + 180 on a + 7 underdog is highway robery and that is what I call a very very expensive ml wager ! I had some nice $$ on AFC +3 wagered earlier so I bet the
Steeler ml at - 220 because it was a steal and then I wagered the +7 on Zona to cover my wagers on Pitt. Collect, collect ,collect ! Zona + 180 to + 200 was major sucker bet IMHO

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i know the -220 for SB was cheap, thats why is said it worked.