Is -105 as low as a book can go ?...

Doug · Feb 19, 2009

Sure seems that way to me. I'm not talking about some odd juice free game, but on a regular basis.

bellyputter · Feb 19, 2009

A few years ago there was a big screen book named ASAP. They would deal -02 and -03 all the time, plus would move their #s more than anyone. One Saturday, by mistake, I middled them on 4 games. They closed shop about a week later.

BronxCheer+ · Feb 19, 2009

at pinnacle they use -104 in NFL

Doug · Feb 19, 2009

Bigjuicyodds tried to deal -102, maybe -103, and bailout players...they failed.

-105 seems to be the max on low juice, IMO, barring an exchange model.

bigboydan · Feb 19, 2009

The last book that made a run at lower than -105 was BigJuicyodds (-103)and we all know what happen to them. Charlie should have known better than to give those types of bonuses to a bunch of punters upon being asked.

trytrytry · Feb 19, 2009

depends on how many shaps and line shoppers they get..with the right guy its plenty of juice..

Doug · Feb 19, 2009

year of the Ox said:
at pinnacle they use -104 in NFL

Maybe Phoenix should deal -105 hockey, like 5D ?

Y'all better -105 MLB ( to -190), if you want any action.

bigboydan · Feb 19, 2009

trytrytry said:
depends on how many shaps and line shoppers they get..with the right guy its plenty of juice..

If your a math guru you can get it down to even money at some of the exchanges like BetDaq for example.

Doug · Feb 19, 2009

year of the Ox said:
at pinnacle they use -104 in NFL

Pinny is the exception, I'm talking more US facing operations.

Maniac · Feb 19, 2009

To be honest I think -105 or -104 is the absolute limit - especially with the way things are with the exchanges now where it is so very easy to find 5 cents of value either way.

at -102 for instance, it would be far too easy for a book to get scalped either way and end up with an all red book - especialy if they are moving their lines constantly in reaction to bets one way or the other...

HacheMan · Feb 19, 2009

Let's just hope that more books get with the times & begin using reduced juice..........

BEANTOWNJIM · Feb 19, 2009

bet jamaica would take control of the market if they went to -105 they are good for contests.

scotty boy the public has spoken go to -105 :103631605

Doug · Feb 19, 2009

Hache Man said:
Let's just hope that more books get with the times & begin using reduced juice..........

No room for any book that doesn't go -105...unless you open the line (CRIS,Greek), have high limits (CRIS,Greek), or give credit.

Only so many -105's can exist as well. No need for a late line -110 shop with dime limits.

Way too many books out there.

The pie is smaller.

Doug · Feb 19, 2009

BEANTOWNJIM said:
bet jamaica would take control of the market if they went to -105 they are good for contests.

scotty boy the public has spoken go to -105

That's one book that can probably deal -110, and a dimeline in baseball, and survive, reputation means a lot.

They can actually pay their players, promptly.

I wouldn't change that, if I ran BJ.

betlarge · Feb 19, 2009

I think 5 dimes offers 5 cent lines in baseball regularly (-102/ -103)...and also has a very solid reputation.

bet365 is a great book even though they offer -110 odds.

Doug · Feb 19, 2009

Bet$3.65 is non-USA, doesn't fit 90% of RX posters.

Correct on 5D. However that is overnight only, sides only, ends about 11 am Eastern, $500 limit.

Still great.

betlarge · Feb 19, 2009

I would wager that more then 10% are Canadians...

Betallsports · Feb 19, 2009

bigboydan said:
If your a math guru you can get it down to even money at some of the exchanges like BetDaq for example.

Hey Dan, Good to see you Over here.

How are things with You ?

Betallsports · Feb 19, 2009

On the Subject at hand, there are Credit Shops that will show Some -02 or -03. But that's for the Bigger Fish

$tinky · Feb 19, 2009

Doug said:
Pinny is the exception, I'm talking more US facing operations.

Doug why do you think they are the exception? Serious question.

Is -105 as low as a book can go ?...

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