NBA Heading for tough times in the near future. Stern looks to India for answers.

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Could an NBA doomsday be on the horizon...


When the subject of great sports quotes comes up, the conversation quickly gets to Patrick Ewing's plea for sympathy during the NBA lockout, when he said athletes "make a lot of money, but they also spend a lot of money."

His agent is putting that knowledge to good use. David Falk has written a book called "The Bald Truth." (recommended for NBA aficionados).

Falk sat with the New York Times and forecast a dire future for the NBA. With the economy in the tank, teams losing money and the salary cap about to shrink, Falk sees trauma in 2011 when the collective bargaining agreement expires.


"The owners have the economic wherewithal to shut the thing down for two years, whatever it takes, to get a system that will work long term," Falk said. "The players do not have the economic wherewithal to sit out one year."


The NBA's average player salary for 2008-09 is $5.58 million.


Players better be ready to play for less under any new collective bargaining agreement in 2011 or not play at all. Ewing is right, when you earn big you spend big, take away that huge income and enter the bankruptcy lawyers.

Players Union President Billy Hunter's take on where the talks are regarding where the league and its players will be in 2010.

"I can't tell you that we are close to reaching a deal, but we have been talking and I'm obviously going to be as diligent as I can be on behalf of our players," said Hunter during the recent All Star break.


"You must understand that we all understand that we live and benefit from the success of the NBA. The last thing we want to do is see it lose its vitality. We will do everything possible to reach a deal.


"Whether or not that means we will reopen before the expiration of the current contract conclusion is another question. But I can say to you that we are anxious to reach a deal. I'm going to do everything within my power, everything within reason to reach a deal, but I'm going to be an aggressive negotiator on behalf of the players."


"I think it is fair to say that the one thing we are not going to get into an argument about are what the facts are," added NBA Commissiner David Stern. "We meet with the union regularly; we turn over everything we possibly can; we may argue about what they say, but you are not going to be able to argue about what they are, because it is too important a subject.


"The union audits on a regular basis a certain number of our teams because it is in the collective bargaining agreement. Honestly, we have to see what happens now with the stimulus package, plus a lot of other things, but we have been very much involved with each other and we will continue to be so."


The future of the NBA is at stake, but fans should feel confident that Stern, who has taken this game to new heights in his tenure as Commissioner, will find ways to cultivate growth in what is becoming more and more a global game. There was a contingent of media from India, and Stern admitted that India is an area where the NBA is looking to expand its influence.


"There is an enormous growing middle class in India," said Stern. "There were 300 million Americans and probably I don't know what our target is that, probably 120 million or 130 million, and of the billion two people in India, we think there might be a pretty similar number that are following our game a little bit. The younger they are, the more likely they are to follow it in the particular regions. We think that the American networks are rushing in for ownership of Indian networks. There is some concentration going on.


"We think that programming of NBA is going to increase there. We recently had Robert Parish in India involved in school programs and the like. We are working in 600 schools in India. We just see that as a natural extension of what we're doing, the same way we are doing it in other regions of the world. But India is a very important and promising market."



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Must read David Falk article in NT Times on state of NBA.

Powerful Agent’s Blunt Warning About Future of the N.B.A.


Published February 22nd. 2009..


David Falk speaks in adages and anecdotes, every catchphrase and tale conveying a lesson from nearly four decades as an elite N.B.A. agent. The stories come in rapid-fire fashion, their themes accentuated by an All-Star cast of characters, including Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing and David Stern.

As Falk intently delivers this oral history, the lessons coalesce in one stark, alarming prediction: the N.B.A. and its players are heading for a profound labor battle.

The nation’s economy is buckling. Too many teams are losing money. League revenue is flat, and the salary cap is about to shrink for only the second time in its history.

The N.B.A.’s system is broken, Falk says, and fixing it will require radical measures that almost guarantee a standoff in 2011, when the collective bargaining agreement expires.

“I think it’s going to be very, very extreme,” Falk said, “because I think that the times are extreme.”

How extreme? Falk said he believed Stern, the commissioner, would push for a hard salary cap, shorter contracts, a higher age limit on incoming players, elimination of the midlevel cap exception and an overall reduction in the players’ percentage of revenue. And, Falk said, Stern will probably get what he wants.

“The owners have the economic wherewithal to shut the thing down for two years, whatever it takes, to get a system that will work long term,” he said in an extensive interview to discuss his new book. “The players do not have the economic wherewithal to sit out one year.”

Falk’s comments will surely irritate the players union and many of his fellow agents. But then, his new book is called “The Bald Truth” for reasons beyond his smooth head.

In 35 years as an N.B.A. agent — and for much of that time, its most powerful agent — Falk has earned a reputation for brutal honesty. In fact, Chapter 3 of his book is titled, “Blunt is Beautiful — Stay True to You.”
In recounting the twists and turns of his career, Falk critiques N.B.A. owners, other agents, former clients and even his mentor, Donald Dell, who gave Falk his start at ProServ in 1974.

Nothing is as striking, however, as his bleak assessment of the N.B.A.’s economic system. Falk’s view matters more than most. Throughout the 1980s and ’90s, he was the N.B.A.’s top power broker, as the adviser to Jordan, Ewing, Alonzo Mourning, Dikembe Mutombo and a host of other stars. He sold his agency, FAME, for $100 million in 1998, but he reopened it in 2007 as a boutique agency.

Falk despairs over the current state of the agent industry, saying “there’s rampant cheating going on” and “the quality of the representation is low.” He blames the union, which certifies agents but provides almost no oversight. A union spokesman declined to comment.

While Falk is no longer the most active agent, he remains highly influential. He is still close to Jordan — now a minority owner of the Charlotte Bobcats — and represents a handful of stars, including Mutombo, Elton Brand and Mike Bibby. (His client list also includes Duke Coach Mike Krzyzewski and the former Georgetown coach John Thompson.)
Sometimes a foe of Stern, Falk is also an unabashed admirer, calling him “the greatest commissioner in the history of professional sports.” Falk does not seem nearly as impressed with Billy Hunter, the executive director of the National Basketball Players Association. The two have had a tense relationship. Falk foresees a rout in the next round of negotiations.

In a joint appearance during All-Star weekend, Stern and Hunter acknowledged the dire state of the economy and its effect on the N.B.A. Stern said publicly for the first time that the salary cap — which is tied to league revenue — would probably decline next season. Privately, league officials are bracing for a major decline in the cap in the 2010-11 season. Stern and Hunter said they had begun preliminary talks for a new labor deal.

Their conciliatory tone sounded promising, but Falk seemed skeptical. In his view, the union botched negotiations in 1998, which led to the three-month lockout, the only labor stoppage in league history. The union tried to stave off a luxury tax and maximum player salaries but ultimately had to accept both in order to strike a deal in January 1999 and save the season.

“The players lost 40 percent of their salaries, and they got a worse deal in January,” Falk said. “So as we approach 2011, my overwhelming feeling is, let’s not make the same dumb mistake as in 1998.”

The players, he said, must recognize that the owners have the ultimate leverage. Many are billionaires for whom owning an N.B.A. team is merely a pricey hobby. Some of them are losing “enormous amounts of money” and would rather shut down the league for a year or two than continue with the current system.

So Falk is urging the union to take a more cooperative approach.
“And if we don’t do that, in my opinion, there’s an overwhelming probability that the owners will shut it down,” he said.

Naturally, Falk has strong opinions about what is ailing the league. He believes too many average players make too much money, while the stars — Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade — do not make enough. Falk would eliminate the cap for the superstars and, at the other end, abolish the midlevel exception, which allows teams to give $30 million deals to role players.

Unlike most of his peers, and the union leadership, Falk is an advocate of the age limit, which Stern won during collective bargaining negotiations in 2005. Falk said the limit, now 19 years old, should be raised to 20 or 21.

His reasons are purely practical. The influx of underclassmen to the N.B.A. has eroded fan familiarity and the quality of play, Falk said. An age limit will create more polished and prepared rookies, while the N.C.A.A. provides free advertising for future N.B.A. stars.

“The single biggest factor contributing to the success of the N.B.A. over the last almost 30 years has been the N.C.A.A tournament,” he said, listing a dozen great moments in tournament history. “Every guy in that era, from ’79 to about ’95, who came in the N.B.A., all the fans knew on a first-name basis. It got to the point, when Duke won twice in the ’90s, people said they knew how Grant Hill wore his socks.”

Changes to the salary cap and the age limit sound like sacrifices from the player’s side. Falk does not see it that way. To understand his view, consider an early chapter from his own career.

Early in his relationship with Jordan, Falk offered to drastically cut his marketing fee in exchange for an upfront payment on his negotiating fee. Jordan was initially resistant, but he agreed when he realized the arrangement would save him $10 million over the long term.

As Falk tells it, his boss, Dell, was aghast. But to Falk, the gesture was about gaining Jordan’s trust and loyalty, which would pay dividends in the long term.

“There wasn’t anything better I could have done with $10 million at that time,” Falk writes.

That, essentially, is the message he has for the players union. The players and the owners have effectively been partners since the salary cap was instituted in 1982. The players’ earnings are dependent on the league’s financial health. And in Falk’s view, the players will have to make short-term concessions if they want the league to thrive.

“The only logical way over the next 25 years that players are going to make more money is to grow the pie,” Falk said.

Of course, in his opinion, the players will have little choice but to give the owners what they want. The situation, Falk said, is analogous to the negotiations he conducted on Jordan’s behalf with the Chicago Bulls in 1984. Jordan held all of the leverage, and the Bulls knew it.

Falk recalls the statement made by Rod Thorn, then the Bulls’ general manager, on the occasion of Jordan’s signing: “There was a lot of give and take in these negotiations. We gave, and they took.”

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The problem with Inida is that don't have the size for basketball. I am 6'2'' and when I go to India, they view me as as if I am 6'7".

Too many of the indigent are malnourished. Baseball should go to India. I have been saying it for years.

It is a natural fit. Cricket is very similiar.
 

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The NHL will soon blow past the NBA.

Stern will be looking for The Love Guru in India. He helped the
Toronto Maple Leaves and Daren Roanoke win the Stanley Cup.

:grandmais


NHL needs to worry about getting past MLS first.
 

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NBA players should never have a problem making extra money. All they have to do is what the Hornets did last night.
 

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Major Leaque Soccer? Does anyone watch that?

yes mls. NHL's premier matchup last night scored a whopping .5. the danish food show on the same network scored a .8

with the financial crisis the nhl is the first to go if any of them go.
 
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yes mls. NHL's premier matchup last night scored a whopping .5. the danish food show on the same network scored a .8

with the financial crisis the nhl is the first to go if any of them go.

So? Ladies like to watch food shows.

The NHL is a religion in Canada that is more popular than the Catholic
Church. To put that in perspective, 40% of Canucks are RC. So the
NHL is not going anywhere.
 

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So? Ladies like to watch food shows.

The NHL is a religion in Canada that is more popular than the Catholic
Church. To put that in perspective, 40% of Canucks are RC. So the
NHL is not going anywhere.

It doesn't matter if it religion in Canada. They can't afford the teams see:

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So? Ladies like to watch food shows.

The NHL is a religion in Canada that is more popular than the Catholic
Church. To put that in perspective, 40% of Canucks are RC. So the
NHL is not going anywhere.

NHL aint based in canada though and it isnt popular here.
 

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How many teams are in Canada?

Edmonton
Calagary
Montreal
Ottawa
Vancouver

Did I miss anyone?

5 team league, nice
 
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How many teams are in Canada?

Edmonton
Calagary
Montreal
Ottawa
Vancouver

Did I miss anyone?

5 team league, nice

Toronto makes 6. Not bad considering the US pop is 10X that of Canada.
And Canadians have to drive through snowstorms to get to the games.

This list includes the 3 largest cities popul wise, Tor, Mont & Van.
 

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