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<TABLE width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="75%">Monday, March 16, 2009</TD><TD align=right width="25%"> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Peppers Heading to NE Peppers Heading to NE
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#f0f0f0><CENTER>The Offseason Is Here In New England</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><CENTER></CENTER>The NFL Network is reporting that the Patriots are poised to land Carolina Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers, adding to what has already been a busy offseason of free agent moves. According to the report the deal will hinge on the second-round pick (34th overall) they received from the Chiefs on Feb. 28. Both teams are reportedly hoping to complete the deal at some point between the March 22-25 NFL owners meetings and the start of the draft on April 25. The free agent had the franchise tag placed on him by Carolina, and has a one-year contract worth $16.68 million. Should he land in New England most reports say he'll be converted to outside linebacker in the Patriots 3-4 defense. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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cant be that happy about giving away 2 first rounders...pretty big loss for any team but especially one that drafts well
 
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cant be that happy about giving away 2 first rounders...pretty big loss for any team but especially one that drafts well

The time is now. Or maybe they figure they're so good they can pick
up Tom Brady type material in the 10th round on a regular basis? Nah.
 

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cant be that happy about giving away 2 first rounders...pretty big loss for any team but especially one that drafts well <!-- / message -->

what 2 1st rounders?
 

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Assuming the deal goes through it boils down to Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel for Julius Peppers.

In other words The Chiefs 2nd round pick (#34 overall) goes to Carolina for Peppers who is stuck with the Franchise tag there and will make $16.68 Million regardless of where he plays, unless he signs an entire new deal with Carolina or the team (probably New England) who trades for him. He cannot move anywhere on his own until after this upcoming season.

The Pats had to deal Cassel for cap purposes and Vrabel is a add on to the deal for KC.

All said and done the Pats give up a one year deal for Cassel for a one year deal for Peppers. Both players will be unrestricted free agents in 2010 unless one or both sign new contracts or are Franchised again. KC gets Cassel and Vrabel, New England gets Peppers and Carolina gets the #34 pick in the upcoming NFL draft plus some big cap space.




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The trade that sent Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel to the Kansas City Chiefs appears to be only the first phase of some major wheeling and dealing by the New England Patriots this offseason.

The second phase, NFL sources say, is likely to involve a trade that would send Carolina Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers to the Patriots in exchange for the second-round pick (34th overall) they received from the Chiefs on Feb. 28.

According to league sources, the Patriots and Panthers are hoping to complete the deal at some point between the March 22-25 NFL owners meetings and the start of the draft on April 25.

Peppers, on whom the Panthers have placed a franchise tag that assures him of a one-year contract worth $16.68 million, would be converted to outside linebacker in New England's 3-4 defense.

The Patriots already were looking ahead to the possibility of acquiring Peppers when they shipped Cassel and Vrabel to Kansas City, NFL sources say, because they wanted to clear the salary-cap space necessary to sign Peppers to a new contract that would put him among the higher-paid defensive players in the league. After signing Cassel to a one-year, franchise-tag tender contract worth $14.65 million, New England had nearly $30 million in cap money devoted to two quarterbacks (including $14.62 million for Tom Brady).

Once the Patriots were convinced that Brady would be fully recovered from the season-ending knee injury he suffered last year, they were comfortable with trading his replacement to the Chiefs and putting the wheels in motion to bolster a defense that has gotten particularly old at linebacker. Vrabel and fellow linebacker Tedy Bruschi are well into the twilight of their respective careers.

NFL sources say the Panthers would welcome the chance to unload Peppers for a second-round draft pick, even though it would be well below his market value, because it would be less costly than signing a first-rounder. The Panthers already have made some belt-tightening financial moves within their front office.

This, in part, could help answer the lingering question of why the Patriots were willing to take only a second-round pick for Cassel and Vrabel rather than possibly go for a higher choice as part of a three-way deal involving the Denver Broncos, who were ready to give up Jay Cutler for Cassel. Without an additional second-round pick, the Patriots might not be able to pursue Peppers.

League sources also point out that the Panthers don't have a first-round choice after trading it to the Philadelphia Eagles and aren't scheduled to draft until 59th overall (near the bottom of the second round). The 34th spot would give Carolina the second pick of the second round and a chance to land a player with a first-round rating who was pushed down to that spot for whatever reason.

Also, according to NFL sources, there is a third phase to the Patriots' offseason strategy. They would like to further beef up their linebacking corps by adding an inside linebacker in the draft. They are known to believe that USC's Rey Maualuga would be a great fit for their scheme, especially when paired with Jerod Mayo, their 2008 first-round pick who was the NFL's top defensive rookie. However, some early projections suggest it might be a long shot for Maualuga to be available for the Patriots with the 23rd overall pick.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick is known for making excellent decisions when it comes to acquiring players, but at least one NFL player-personnel evaluator questions whether Peppers would be a good fit in New England.

"This is a guy who totally went on strike two years ago because he wasn't happy with his contract," said the player personnel source, who requested anonymity. "He's also very long (in the torso), which is not ideal for a 3-4 outside linebacker. And he can't drop into coverage. He's very stiff.

"But one of the things (the Patriots) are looking at is the fact that, in passing situations, they can have Peppers up front with (Richard) Seymour and (Jarvis) Green. That makes it easier for them to take (nose tackle Vince) Wilfork out of the game in (passing situations) and just play him on running downs."

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Wow AThomas back from injury, Peppers in the fold, Bodden/Springs signed at CB and the stud Mayo coming into year 2, Meriweather coming into year 2 as starter. This D will be back to its 01-04 (then again in '06/07 was effective) days with J Peppers in the fold.

Who knows if it happens though, Peppers is gonna want a ton of money and Pats might find Jason Taylor to be a cheaper (albiet older) short term alternative.
 

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Julius Peppers possibly to NE!!

The local Herald is reporting Carolina has agreed to accept NE's 34th second round "Cassell" pick for Peppers. Now it's up to BB to see if they can work out a long term contract with him. It should be interesting to see if they get it done.
 

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redsox start in 3weeks and i here i am shitting my pants about peppers potentially coming to the patriots...

oh i forgot, we still have the c's and b's playoff run ahead of us along with the kickoff of redsox season....

tough being a Boston Sports fan ;)
 
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Panthers deny Peppers to Patriots trade report

Panthers deny Peppers to Patriots trade report

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CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) - The Carolina Panthers denied a report Monday they've discussed trading four-time Pro Bowl defensive end Julius Peppers to the New England Patriots.


The reason: They aren't allowed to have any trade talks involving Peppers until he signs his one-year tender worth $16.7 million - or until his agent brokers a deal with another team and comes to Carolina for approval.
NFL.com, citing unidentified sources, reported the Panthers and Patriots were close to a deal that would send Peppers to the Patriots for New England's second-round pick, 34th overall, that was acquired from Kansas City in the Matt Cassel trade.
"By the rules of the (collective bargaining agreement) we cannot and have not had any conversations with other teams about Julius," Panthers general manager Marty Hurney said in a statement. "Under the non-exclusive franchise tag, Julius and his agent, Carl Carey, are within their rights to talk to other teams about a potential contract. However, at this point, we are not aware of any such conversations."
Carey did not immediately return phone and e-mail messages seeking comment.
Peppers, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2002 draft and Carolina's all-time sacks leader, announced after the season that he wanted to play elsewhere, and preferably move to outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense, which New England employs.
But the Panthers still placed the franchise tag on Peppers, which allows teams to sign Peppers only if they surrender two first-round picks in return. However, Peppers and his agent could work out a deal for less compensation and take it to the Panthers for approval. A trade could avoid an ugly holdout. Even though Peppers has not signed the tender, that money counts against Carolina's salary cap, giving it virtually no room to sign other players in free agency.
 

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