SI: A-Fraud's Alleged Pitch Tipping Scheme

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Details on A-Rod's alleged pitch-tipping scheme in Texas



A report in the New York Daily News alleged that in a new book on Alex Rodriguez to be published this Monday by Harper Collins, the star tipped pitches when he was with the Texas Rangers, essentially signaling to friendly opponents what pitch was coming. SI senior writer Selena Roberts, who along with David Epstein broke the story in February about A-Rod's use of performance enhancing drugs, wrote the book and talked to SI.com about the allegations.
SI.com: The book claims that A-Rod tipped opposing players to pitches in the late innings of blowouts, an affront not only to teammates but also to the integrity of the game. How often was this practice performed and how does this affect his standing with his peers?
Selena Roberts: The pitch-tipping was often enough over three years to become a pattern noticeable by the ex-Rangers sources that I spoke to. Only a small number of Rangers knew about the quid pro quo that Alex was involved in and did not want it to spread around the clubhouse because it would have been devastating to the team.
SI.com: How did this pitch-tipping originate?
Selena Roberts: I don't know the history of how it has worked in the major leagues, but from my reporting and the people I spoke with on the Rangers, what they noticed was a pattern of behavior by Alex over a pretty lengthy period of time, two or three years, where it just became more noticeable that his mannerisms on the field were different in games that were already over, its 10-2, something like that. When games were already decided, they noticed this behavior with Alex where he would do very obvious signs, presumably to an opposing hitter who would be a middle infielder on an opposing team, where they believed that he would tip the signs.
SI.com: Why was he doing this?
Roberts: What this was all part of was a quid pro quo, according to the people I spoke with. Alex would tip his middle infielder buddy on the other team and the player on the other team would in turn tip Alex. What it was was slump insurance. You could count on your buddy to help you break out of your slump, if you're 0 for 3 or you've had a bad week. There was no intent to throw a game or change the outcome.
SI.com: How would he tip the pitches?
Roberts: If it was a changeup, sources say, he would twist his glove hand. To indicate a slider, he would allegedly sweep the dirt in front of him, and he would bend in the direction of where the pitch was going to be, inside or outside. I don't know that it's easy to decode. You're talking about people who see a player on an every-day basis, day after day, year after year. I don't know that it would be at all obvious to people who are watching or to a television audience. These are people who would know how to detect when things don't feel right. If it happened once or twice, people might say, Let's give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe we didn't see what we thought we saw. But according to the people that I spoke with, this was a pattern of behavior.
SI.com: So if teammates noticed it, how did they handle it?
Roberts: At least one teammate in a very gentle way did say, "Hey, you might be tipping a little too soon out there." What would usually happen would be for Alex to signal the pitch to his teammates as the pitcher was in the windup; that way the batter is focused on the pitcher and not able to see the sign. However, these signs Alex would flash came before the windup and that made it more noticeable. This is the critical difference between signaling your infield as quarterback and giving away the pitch to the hitter: when you flash the sign. This was done to give the batter plenty of time to see it and figure out what to do about it.
But one player trying to be diplomatic told me that he said, "I think you're tipping a little too soon," and the response from Alex was, "What are you talking about?" I don't think Alex was irritated at the player; I think he felt that he had been scrutinized too closely, that someone else was trying to tell him how to do his job. These people who knew about it or witnessed it knew how it would play in the clubhouse if it became an issue. These were all reasons why it didn't become a bigger deal than it was, because people wanted to keep it under wraps.
SI.com: How many people knew about this?
Roberts: I think it was kept to a very small group of people. The people that are noticing this, it's not something that you want to tell anybody else. You want to keep it to yourself until it becomes something you can't ignore anymore. If this had been a situation where it was determining the outcome of a game, obviously it would have been a much different story.
 

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That would be worse than the steroids.
 

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I could see this happening however this girl better be ready to source where her information came from.

If she can't then he can sue her for libel.
 
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Better be able to prove it or a lawsuit can be filed.


Face it man. He was probably using the whole time he was in Seattle as well. He's a liar and a cheater.

Are you an A-Rod apologist or just a blind fan?

Mariners doing quite well so far this year!(<)<
 

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Face it man. He was probably using the whole time he was in Seattle as well. He's a liar and a cheater.

Are you an A-Rod apologist or just a blind fan?

Mariners doing quite well so far this year!(<)<

Not at all but I'm a guy that knows for certain people should not be convicted in the court of public opinion and if you put something in a book you'd better damn well be ready to prove it.

The guy has admitted already that he's taken roids so that is an established fact. However, to now accuse him of tipping pitches is much worse in my mind and if you make this accusation you'd better be able to site your sources.
 

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I'm all for dumping on ARod too, but she better be careful here (probably too late for that). He very well might bring suit, and how's she going to defend herself? She better find a player or two willing to testify, and who knows how that'll work out.
 

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They have proof on both of these guys. All I'm saying is she better have credible sources for making allegations of tipping pitches.

She is a professional writer, I am sure with a college degree and possibly with a masters or doctorate. She has been hired by one of the most high profile sports magazines in the world, meaning she probably has a pretty good resume. Therefore, I would guess she is familiar with the ethics of her profession and with the dangers of libel.

I am willing to bet she is unafraid of a lawsuit.
 

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SO WHAT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE 1900S. WHATS NEXT A RODs MOM WAS TAKING STEROIDS WHEN SHE WAS 2 MONTHS PREGNANT WITH HIM. THIS STUFF CONTINUES TO BE OVER BLOWN AND TAKES MORE AND MORE A WAY FROM THE GAME. I FOR ONE HAVE HAD ENOUGH. LETS DIG UP BABE RUTH AND CHECK HIS DNA I AM SURE BESIDE BOOZE THEY WOULD FIND SOMETHING. WHAT A JOKE
 

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She is a professional writer, I am sure with a college degree and possibly with a masters or doctorate. She has been hired by one of the most high profile sports magazines in the world, meaning she probably has a pretty good resume. Therefore, I would guess she is familiar with the ethics of her profession and with the dangers of libel.

I am willing to bet she is unafraid of a lawsuit.

So, that said, the Daily News obtained an early copy of the book and also ESPN has a copy yet everything that's been reported only says "sources close to the situation say..."

You're missing my point. All I'm saying is if he filed a lawsuit she'd better be ready to name those sources because as of right now we have nothing and it's all alegations.

Also, just because you're familiar with them doesn't mean you'll follow them. Most writers are trying to make big names for themselves and will sometimes "bend" the rules just slightly to get their name in the spotlight.
 

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He needs to be thrown out of baseball if this is true...hes a menace.
 

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Also, just because you're familiar with them doesn't mean you'll follow them. Most writers are trying to make big names for themselves and will sometimes "bend" the rules just slightly to get their name in the spotlight.

Give me some examples.
 

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Give me some examples.

Don't know what else you require but here you are:

Roberts broke the story that A-Rod failed a steroid test in 2003. Yankees teammates, Roberts writes in the book, nicknamed Rodriguez "B---h T--s" in 2005 because he put on 15 pounds in the offseason that resulted in round pectorals, a condition called gynecomastia that can be caused by anabolic steroids.

Roberts, during an interview on Dan Patrick's syndicated radio show Thursday, said sources told her after Rodriguez's spring training news conference -- in which he apologized to his Yankees teammates -- that Rodriguez was not entirely truthful at that media session.

So, these two quotes should show you that she does not name these so called teamates by name. She'd better be able to name sources or he can sue her for libel. You can's just make up sources. If she has a source that tells her a story then she needs to quote the source not make some ambiguous statement accusing him of wrongdoing.

Now, these quotes would not be grounds in this specfic instance because he's admitted to steroid use however the comments and quotes regarding pitch tipping are the same. Quotes without naming sources.
 

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They should make an example out of him.
 

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Same thing was said about the SI writer when they exposed the steroid use. He'll sue, libel this and that.

A-Rod opens himself for cross examination by suing. Wonder why Barry Bonds personally never took those writers to court for exposing his grand jury testimony? Same reason. Depending on the judge, cross exam can range far and wide.

At this point, the SI writer has more credibility than A-Rod.



I can't really think of anybody that has less credibility than A-fraud.
 

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Same thing was said about the SI writer when they exposed the steroid use. He'll sue, libel this and that.

A-Rod opens himself for cross examination by suing. Wonder why Barry Bonds personally never took those writers to court for exposing his grand jury testimony? Same reason. Depending on the judge, cross exam can range far and wide.

At this point, the SI writer has more credibility than A-Rod.

Yeah I agree with this but if she went to court the judge could make her produce the source and she'd have to do it or be in contempt and then she'd most likely go to jail.
 

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