Wakefield has LOST 30 more games than any RED SOX pitcher

Fishhead · May 5, 2009

Cy Young is 2nd on the list with most losses, but Wakefild has him by outdistanced by over 30 losses!!!

RECENTLY, WAKEFIELD HAS BEEN GETTING SOME PRESS ON HOW HE IS APPROACHING THE ALL-TIME RED SOX TEAM RECORD IN WINS(YOUNG AND CLEMENS ARE TIED FOR THE MOST), ............THUS, THOUGHT I WOULD THROW THIS MOST LOSSES TRIVIA TO THE MASSES HERE AT THERX.COM, AS I'VE HEARD NOBODY EVER MENTION THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN.

I would love to see Wakefield continue to pitch as well as he has done this far in the season at least up to the All-Star break so he could have an oppurtunity on making the ALL-STAR TEAM for the first time in his career.

Thus far in my opinion, Wakefield has been the best starting pitcher for the Red Sox, posting a record of 3-1 with an ERA under 3.00.

FairWarning · May 6, 2009

He is the last Pirate with a playoff win also.

RobFunk · May 6, 2009

Nice thing about Wake, he almost always reaches decision

Fishhead · May 6, 2009

RobFunk said:
Nice thing about Wake, he almost always reaches decision

181-158 in addition to 22 saves

Look at Wakefields salary over his career, he may have been the best damn value in baseball over the past 15 years........................

<TABLE class=salary_table _extended="true"><TBODY><TR><TD>1993</TD><TD>Pittsburgh Pirates</TD><TD align=right>$150,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>1995</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$175,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>1996</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$450,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>1997</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$2,500,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>1998</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$3,500,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>1999</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$4,000,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2000</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$4,500,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2001</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$3,000,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2002</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$3,200,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2003</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$4,000,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2004</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$4,350,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2005</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$4,670,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2006</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$4,000,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2007</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$4,000,000</TD></TR><TR><TD>2008</TD><TD>Boston Red Sox</TD><TD align=right>$4,000,000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Fishhead · May 6, 2009

jgrif33 said:
When Wake first went to Boston, wasn't he like 7-0 or 9-0 during the first half of his first year w/ them? He was unhittable during that run and was my favorite player on the Sox at that time.

Yes, and he finished 3rd in the CY YOUNG AWARD voting that year, behind Randy Johnson and Jose Mesa.

He finished with 16 wins and an ERA under 3.00

TomGshotput · May 6, 2009

jgrif33 said:
12-1 through the end of July in 1995

The All-Star game is in the middle of July and the team is announced even before that and the first month he was in the minors

Still remember that two month run he had, best I've ever seen from a pitcher outside of Pedro

RobFunk · May 6, 2009

TomGshotput said:
Still remember that two month run he had, best I've ever seen from a pitcher outside of Pedro

I remember that. He seemed absolutely unhittable.

When that knuckle is working and it dances and drops in the zone. . .

GREENHEAD · May 6, 2009

Jamie Moyer much better overall pitcher.

Boxer22 · May 6, 2009

GREENHEAD said:
Jamie Moyer much better overall pitcher.

Without a doubt.

Fishhead · May 6, 2009

GREENHEAD said:
Jamie Moyer much better overall pitcher.

On another unrelated topic, corn and soybeans are both up early in todays trading session.

kingbill · May 6, 2009

FairWarning said:
He is the last Pirate with a playoff win also.

I loved that Pirate Team...I reading about Wakefield telling Leyland that he would throw back to back games if he was needed to.

Old NYtimes article from 1992 about Wakefield
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/09/s...es-are-hanging-by-wakefield-s-fingertips.html

TomGshotput · May 6, 2009

Another thing,
I've often thought of the 95 Red Sox as the team that overachieved the most for one full season. Wakefield came out of nowhere to be the second or third best pitcher in the league; Erik Hanson was receiving Cy Young votes in Baseball Weekly's inseason straw polls; Vaughan Eshelman won the first six starts of his career (I think); John Valentin was the best shortstop in the league and Tim Naehring was almost as good; Mike Greenwell's last season doing well, and Troy O'Leary's first. Coming into the year the team had no leadoff hitter, Luis Alicea and Lee Tinsley split time in the role and both had obp's above .360

The only star players were Roger Clemens in the worst season of his career, and Jose Canseco and Mo Vaughan. Looking at baseballreference, the top four relievers in IPs all had career years. The team had an eight game lead by the time school ended in June and the division was never really close

Yankees had Mattingly, Boggs, Paul O'Neill, Bernie Williams, Tartabull, Pettite, McDowell, Cone, Key, Wetteland, Rivera

Then there was Cleveland. . .

Fishhead · May 8, 2009

Wakefield to 4-1 after last evenings fine performance in Cleveland.

5teamparlay · Jan 27, 2010

http://www.masslive.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/01/tim_wakefield_expects_to_start.html

Tim Wakefield expects to start for the Red Sox in 2010

By Kyle Belanger, MassLive.com

January 27, 2010, 9:11AM

File photo courtesy of the Associated Press
Tim Wakefield needs 17 wins to tie Roger Clemens and Cy Young for the Red Sox all-time lead.
Memo to the Boston Red Sox: Tim Wakefield expects to be a starter in 2010.
That’s according to Tuesday Boston Herald story, in which the 43-year-old knuckleballer talked about the team entering spring training with six starters – Wakefield, Josh Beckett, Jon Lester, John Lackey, Daisuke Matsuzaka and Clay Bucholz.

“I know my role and I know what my approach is going to be when I get to spring training: be a starter and help us win the World Series,” he said.

According to John Tomase’s story, Wakefield “spoke matter-of-factly and without rancor” about the subject.

“Hopefully they respect me enough to give me the ball when we get to spring training as a member of this rotation. I think I’ve earned the right to be a full-time starter and go from there,” Wakefield added.

As a longtime Wakefield fan – but by no means an apologist – I have no problem with his expectations to compete for a starting job. Heck, it’d be more troubling if he was running up the white flag before spring training started. And with only 18 wins standing between him and the all-time Red Sox lead, who wouldn’t want to see him cruise past Roger Clemens (and Cy Young) into first place? (File under: Good Guys Finish First.)
In fact, I’d go so far as to say that his claim in the opening day rotation is certainly stronger than Bucholz’s . And it’s not just a body-of-work argument; it’s the fact that he’s coming off a season that saw him make his first-ever all-star team before a fluke interleague batting injury derailed him.
Sure, he’ll likely not get to 18 wins this season. But between he and Bucholz at No. 5, 15 is well within reach – a number any team would be happy with at that spot.
And did I mention the whole, moving past Clemens thing? Just making sure.

Fishhead · Jan 27, 2010

Timmy will go in as RED SOX to the HOF........not a PIRATE.

zags · Jan 27, 2010

Let's not get crazy with the HOF talk...lol. SOX HOF yes, MLB HOF? NO, NO, NO. I hope he does get the 18 wins.

paftraft · Jan 27, 2010

Fishhead said:
Cy Young is 2nd on the list with most losses, but Wakefild has him by outdistanced by over 30 losses!!!

RECENTLY, WAKEFIELD HAS BEEN GETTING SOME PRESS ON HOW HE IS APPROACHING THE ALL-TIME RED SOX TEAM RECORD IN WINS(YOUNG AND CLEMENS ARE TIED FOR THE MOST), ............THUS, THOUGHT I WOULD THROW THIS MOST LOSSES TRIVIA TO THE MASSES HERE AT THERX.COM, AS I'VE HEARD NOBODY EVER MENTION THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN.

I would love to see Wakefield continue to pitch as well as he has done this far in the season at least up to the All-Star break so he could have an oppurtunity on making the ALL-STAR TEAM for the first time in his career.

Thus far in my opinion, Wakefield has been the best starting pitcher for the Red Sox, posting a record of 3-1 with an ERA under 3.00.

I would have guessed Red Ruffing was the Sox leaders in losses he had some brutal seasons with the dismal Sox in the late 20's & early 30's as I recall

5teamparlay · May 22, 2011

5-22-2011:

That was just the third baserunner in the first six innings against Wakefield, who won his 180th game for the Red Sox -- third in franchise history behind Cy Young and Roger Clemens. The knuckleballer, who gave up a pair of doubles in the seventh for Chicago's only run, struck out three and walked none before leaving with two out in the seventh.

Win 194 on the career...

Win helps chances on getting that expected 3rd ring this year!!!!

Wakefield has LOST 30 more games than any RED SOX pitcher

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