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valueman

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I've been semi-professional punting on UK jumps horse racing for many years whilst working for online betting exchanges as a consultant. I've recorded 2004 onwards and have averaged 20k pounds profit per year at a rate of 15.51% to stake over that period.

I've never really wanted to bet professionally as sole income source but got laid off at end of Dec 08 and now have to consider that as a possibility given how hard it is to find well paid work in gambling industry without uprooting family etc.

I figure betting professionally on UK jumps racing alone I will find it hard to make more than 30k pounds as it is getting very hard to get bets on best prices nowadays which is not really enough to maintain my quality of life.

I am looking to share my UK jumps selections with a professional who can do the same for another sport/another type of racing. I am not looking for a trader as I won't have the time to devote to playing the markets.

To avoid time wasters I'd need a three year minimum period of all recorded bets/ evidence of profit as a minimum.

I'm not sure if we are allowed to give out e-mail addresses so its on my profile if any serious person is interested.

Please no spam, tipsters, scammers etc.
 

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Just for clarity, I would be providing the person who provided evidence of numerous years betting success with the same in return.

Whilst I realise the person I'd be exchanging info with would have a much lower rate of return unless it was for an abstract sport hopefully that would be compensated by a greater turnover.
 
tatehill2000

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gl to you.

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yeah - I know what you mean. I was hoping that I could earn say another $30K or so in another sport or US racing etc in exchange for my Uk horse racing info which I'm sure would earn someone (with a decent bank) $50k+ for the first year or two whilst they have clean unrestricted accounts.

It seems as if either there aren't any pros out there or the genuine ones who are professional enough to record all bets over many years are doing well enough not to want to share info to boost their income.

It was a long shot trying to find someone on here but the offer is 100% genuine.
 

OccamsRazor

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could you translate your post into american english

"I've been semi-professional punting on UK jumps horse racing for many years whilst working for online betting exchanges as a consultant. I've recorded 2004 onwards and have averaged 20k pounds profit per year at a rate of 15.51% to stake over that period". :think2:

I think punting means betting?

What is UK Jumps horse racing?

Averaged 20 what?

Rate of 15.51 to stake over that period? what does that mean
 
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occamsrazor said:
could you translate your post into american english

"i've been semi-professional punting on uk jumps horse racing for many years whilst working for online betting exchanges as a consultant. I've recorded 2004 onwards and have averaged 20k pounds profit per year at a rate of 15.51% to stake over that period". :think2:

I think punting means betting? lol it is betting !

What is uk jumps horse racing? horse racing

averaged 20 what? 20k = 20.000
rate of 15.51 to stake over that period? What does that mean
% yield

bellow just an example

<table style="width: 190pt; border-collapse: collapse;" x:str="" width="253" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl26" style="border: 0.5pt solid windowtext; width: 56pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" width="75" height="17">
domestic​
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: 0.5pt 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; width: 57pt; background-color: transparent;" width="76">
cl+uefa​
</td><td class="xl28" style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: 0.5pt 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; width: 41pt; background-color: transparent;" width="54">
all​
</td><td class="xl24" style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); width: 36pt; background-color: transparent;" width="48">
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl30" style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="" height="17">
102​
</td><td class="xl30" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="">
13​
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="">
115​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: 0.5pt 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;">
bets​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl35" style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.5" height="17">
50.0%​
</td><td class="xl35" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.53846153846153844">
53.8%​
</td><td class="xl34" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.5043478260869565">
50.4%​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;">
wins​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl35" style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="2.9411764705882353e-2" height="17">
2.9%​
</td><td class="xl35" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0">
0.0%​
</td><td class="xl34" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="2.6086956521739146e-2">
2.6%​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;">
level​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl35" style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.47058823529411764" x:fmla="=1-a4-a3" height="17">
47.1%​
</td><td class="xl35" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.46153846153846156">
46.2%​
</td><td class="xl34" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.46956521739130436">
47.0%​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;">
losses​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl31" style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="518.25" height="17">
518.25 ​
</td><td class="xl31" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="85.5">
85.50 ​
</td><td class="xl25" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="603.75">
603.75 ​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;">
staked​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl32" style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: Yellow;" x:num="0.23839845634346357" height="17">
24%​
</td><td class="xl32" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: Yellow;" x:num="0.45380116959064326">
45%​
</td><td class="xl33" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: Lime;" x:num="0.26890269151138718">
27%​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;">
yield​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl31" style="border-style: none solid solid; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="123.55" height="17">
123.55 ​
</td><td class="xl31" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="38.8">
38.80 ​
</td><td class="xl25" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext; border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;" x:num="162.35">
162.35 ​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 0.5pt 0.5pt medium; background-color: transparent;">
profit​
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gl.
 

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Originally Posted by occamsrazor
could you translate your post into american english

"i've been semi-professional punting on uk jumps horse racing for many years whilst working for online betting exchanges as a consultant. I've recorded 2004 onwards and have averaged 20k pounds profit per year at a rate of 15.51% to stake over that period". :think2:

I think punting means betting? lol it is betting !

What is uk jumps horse racing? horse racing

averaged 20 what? 20k = 20.000

rate of 15.51 to stake over that period? What does that mean
% yield

bellow just an example

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 190pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=253 border=0 x:str=""><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; WIDTH: 56pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=75 height=17>
domestic​
</TD><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; WIDTH: 57pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=76>
cl+uefa​
</TD><TD class=xl28 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; WIDTH: 41pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=54>
all​
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); WIDTH: 36pt; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216)" width=48>
</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num="">
102​
</TD><TD class=xl30 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="">
13​
</TD><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="">
115​
</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">
bets​
</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl35 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num="0.5">
50.0%​
</TD><TD class=xl35 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="0.53846153846153844">
53.8%​
</TD><TD class=xl34 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="0.5043478260869565">
50.4%​
</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">
wins​
</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl35 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num="2.9411764705882353e-2">
2.9%​
</TD><TD class=xl35 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="0">
0.0%​
</TD><TD class=xl34 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="2.6086956521739146e-2">
2.6%​
</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">
level​
</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl35 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num="0.47058823529411764" x:fmla="=1-a4-a3">
47.1%​
</TD><TD class=xl35 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="0.46153846153846156">
46.2%​
</TD><TD class=xl34 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="0.46956521739130436">
47.0%​
</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">
losses​
</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num="518.25">
518.25 ​
</TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="85.5">
85.50 ​
</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="603.75">
603.75 ​
</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">
staked​
</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl32 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow" height=17 x:num="0.23839845634346357">
24%​
</TD><TD class=xl32 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow" x:num="0.45380116959064326">
45%​
</TD><TD class=xl33 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lime" x:num="0.26890269151138718">
27%​
</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">
yield​
</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num="123.55">
123.55 ​
</TD><TD class=xl31 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="38.8">
38.80 ​
</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num="162.35">
162.35 ​
</TD><TD class=xl29 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: rgb(236,233,216); BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">
profit​
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


that's not funny Vitamin.

above makes less sense.

As we say in the US "what the fuck does that mean?"
 
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OccamsRazor said:
Originally Posted by occamsrazor
could you translate your post into american english

"i've been semi-professional punting on uk jumps horse racing for many years whilst working for online betting exchanges as a consultant. I've recorded 2004 onwards and have averaged 20k pounds profit per year at a rate of 15.51% to stake over that period". :think2:

I think punting means betting? lol it is betting !

What is uk jumps horse racing? horse racing

averaged 20 what? 20k = 20.000

rate of 15.51 to stake over that period? What does that mean
% yield

bellow just an example

<table style="width: 190pt; border-collapse: collapse;" x:str="" width="253" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl26" style="border: 0.5pt solid windowtext; width: 56pt; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" width="75" height="17">
domestic​
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-color: windowtext; border-top: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; width: 57pt; background-color: transparent;" width="76">
cl+uefa​
</td><td class="xl28" style="border-color: windowtext; border-top: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; width: 41pt; background-color: transparent;" width="54">
all​
</td><td class="xl24" style="border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216); width: 36pt; background-color: transparent;" width="48">
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl30" style="border-color: windowtext; border-left: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="" height="17">
102​
</td><td class="xl30" style="border-color: windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;" x:num="">
13​
</td><td class="xl27" style="border-color: windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;" x:num="">
115​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-top: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;">
bets​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl35" style="border-color: windowtext; border-left: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.5" height="17">
50.0%​
</td><td class="xl35" style="border-color: windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.53846153846153844">
53.8%​
</td><td class="xl34" style="border-color: windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.5043478260869565">
50.4%​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;">
wins​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl35" style="border-color: windowtext; border-left: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="2.9411764705882353e-2" height="17">
2.9%​
</td><td class="xl35" style="border-color: windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0">
0.0%​
</td><td class="xl34" style="border-color: windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;" x:num="2.6086956521739146e-2">
2.6%​
</td><td class="xl29" style="border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;">
level​
</td></tr><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl35" style="border-color: windowtext; border-left: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.47058823529411764" x:fmla="=1-a4-a3" height="17">
47.1%​
</td><td class="xl35" style="border-color: windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.46153846153846156">
46.2%​
</td><td class="xl34" style="border-color: windowtext; border-right: 0.5pt solid windowtext; border-bottom: 0.5pt solid windowtext; background-color: transparent;" x:num="0.46956521739130436">
47.0%​
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losses​
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518.25 ​
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85.50 ​
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603.75 ​
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staked​
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24%​
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45%​
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27%​
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yield​
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123.55 ​
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38.80 ​
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162.35 ​
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profit​
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that's not funny Vitamin.

above makes less sense.

As we say in the US "what the fuck does that mean?"
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Occams, I am guessing domestic must mean horses, and cl/uefa may mean club soccer??

hey vitamin, most here who bet at a professional level do so by scalping and middleing. there are but a few that handicap successfully with systems.

I do use both techniques but would take me a year to explain and teach you.

If I were you I would go down to the Horse, or soccer section and pitch your idea there also, you may get more takers.
gl
tater
 
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tatehill2000 said:
Occams, I am guessing domestic must mean horses, and cl/uefa may mean club soccer??

hey vitamin, most here who bet at a professional level do so by scalping and middleing. there are but a few that handicap successfully with systems.

I do use both techniques but would take me a year to explain and teach you.

If I were you I would go down to the Horse, or soccer section and pitch your idea there also, you may get more takers.
gl
tater
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Domestic is for EPL English Prem League .
I don't bet on horses . I always say just do what you do best .
Soccer is the money maker for me .Year after year .
MLB - 0 bets so far and no plans to wager, NHL - 0 bets even been 1st on betfair contest with a record 14W-8L . NFL is my week point can't resist . For the love of the game in MINUS .
Well i have been doing this for over 13 years .Sorry to say i don't need any takers on what i have to say LOL but it's true .
There is a system for soccer that will make make you money year after year . It works on Europian soccer (the best) . And it's easy to use .
No secret it's betting on under 2.5 goals .( don't get involved on betting OVER you will fail)
Ones Europian leagues start new season after 1st 6 rounds i'll post the selection and criteria . And then any one can take over the trend .Case i have no time to post .My posting days are long over .





Just for fun.


Sweden Superettan Betfair odds

Soccer - Jonkopings Sodra v Mjallby Book Closes Jun 11 13:00

Total Goals

Under 2.5 1.88 Over 2.5 2.12

Under 2.5 1.88 This selection has around 64 % to win

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
The other choice is to take BOTH BETS
Mjallby Win @ 2.22
and
Under 2.5 1.88

to break even just in case Mjallby nails them badly .


Small stakes on :


Mjallby win 0 - 1 @ 7.8


Mjallby win 0 - 2 @ 11

Cheers.




 

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Sorry I'll translate:

Punting = Betting/Gambling

Jumps Racing = Horse racing in Uk over obstacles (hurdles(small) and fences(large)).Oct - April each year.

20K pounds = 20,000 pounds

Rate of return = total profit/total amount bet x 100
eg: 100000/644745 x 100 = 15.51%

Guess that works out to about 60.5% on your -110 betting.
 
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if you can hit the equivalent too 60%, you will be very rich very fast. there is a classic post on the math behind this by fezzik that everyone should read.
 

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If Uk jumps racing were US sports I'd agree with the fact that 60%+ or rate of return 15%+ should make you very rich very quick.

However the issue with UK jumps racing is that the season is 6 months a year, only Uk bookmakers take bets on it and they limit/ban you pretty quickly. Price shopping is also a big factor for me and its very hard for me to get on the bulk of a bet on at the best price and I found as my stakes have gone up the rate of return goes down on this factor alone. I'm doing all the getting the bets on via friends accounts but again the life of an account is 6 months to 18 months as my selections are the ones that shorten in price considerably before the start of a race - steam in US terms.

Hence if I could have another arrow to my bow in say something like College Hoops, Golf etc I'd be happy to let someone profit from my horses for a couple of years or longer if they can get more accounts.
 
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