Madoff sentenced to 150 years for fraud

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Yes!

Not that it would make much difference to the victims, but it seems like he should have to be put
on full time work patrol, and any proceeds would go to the victims' fund.

He shouldn't be able to site and watch TV all day long, make the bastard work.
 
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Madoff sentenced to 150 years for fraud

Disgraced investor learns fate for his multibillion-dollar scam


NEW YORK - Bernard Madoff was sentenced Monday to 150 years for the multibillion-dollar fraud scheme he perpetrated.
Before the sentencing, Madoff apologized to his family and to the victims of his multibillion-dollar fraud scheme Monday at a hearing for his sentencing for the investment swindle.
The 71-year-old financier said at the hearing that he “will live with this pain, this torment, for the rest of my life.”

Madoff says that he dug himself “deeper into a hole” as the scheme progressed. He also said he cannot offer an excuse for his behavior.
Attorney Ira Sorkin says the 150 years in prison recommended by prosecutors or the 50 years recommended by the federal probation department are excessive.
Madoff has pleaded guilty to securities fraud and other charges in March and has been jailed ever since.
Earlier, victims of the fraud described their ruined lives Monday to the judge sentencing the 71-year-old former Nasdaq stock market chairman.
Several hundred spectators crowded the courtroom in Manhattan to witness the sentencing of Madoff for the fraud scheme that wiped out fortunes, ruined charities and foundations and pushed some investors to commit suicide.

Madoff, wearing a dark suit, white shirt and a tie, sat and listened as emotional witnesses described how he spoiled their security, and they urged U.S. District Judge Denny Chin to send him to prison for life.
“Life has been a living hell. It feels like the nightmare we can’t wake from,” said Carla Hirshhorn.
“He stole from the rich. He stole from the poor. He stole from the in between. He had no values,” said Tom Fitzmaurice. “He cheated his victims out of their money so he and his wife Ruth could live a life of luxury beyond belief.”
Dominic Ambrosino called it an “indescribably heinous crime” and urged a long prison sentence so “will know he is imprisoned in much the same way he imprisoned us and others.”

He added: “In a sense, I would like somebody in the court today to tell me how long is my sentence.”
Chin said the Probation Department had recommended a 50-year sentence be given Madoff.
Madoff’s lawyer has asked a judge to give his client 12 years behind bars. Prosecutors sought a 150-year prison term.
Madoff “will speak to the shame he has felt and to the pain he has caused,” his attorney, Ira Sorkin, said in court papers.
“We seek neither mercy nor sympathy,” Sorkin wrote. But the lawyer urged Chin to “set aside the emotion and hysteria attendant to this case” as he determines the sentence.

Prosecutors argued in court papers Friday that federal sentencing guidelines allow the 150-year sentence. Any lesser term, they said, should at least be the equivalent of a life sentence.
“The sheer scale of the fraud calls for severe punishment,” the prosecutors wrote.
The jailed Madoff already has taken a severe financial hit: Last week, a judge issued a preliminary $171 billion forfeiture order stripping Madoff of all his personal property, including real estate, investments, and $80 million in assets his wife Ruth had claimed were hers. The order left her with $2.5 million.
The terms require the Madoffs to sell a $7 million Manhattan apartment where Ruth Madoff still lives. An $11 million estate in Palm Beach, Fla., a $4 million home in Montauk and a $2.2 million boat will be put on the market as well.

Before Madoff became a symbol of Wall Street greed, he had earned a reputation as a trusted money manager with a Midas touch. Even as the market fluctuated, clients of his secretive investment advisory business — from Florida retirees to celebrities such as Steven Spielberg, actor Kevin Bacon and Hall of Fame pitcher Sandy Koufax — for decades enjoyed steady double-digit returns.

But late last year, Madoff made a dramatic confession: Authorities say he pulled his sons aside and told them it was “all just one big lie.”
Madoff pleaded guilty in March to securities fraud and other charges, saying he was “deeply sorry and ashamed.” He insisted that he acted alone, describing a separate wholesale stock-trading firm run by his sons and brother as honest and legitimate.
Aside from an accountant accused of cooking Madoff’s books, no one else has been criminally charged. But the family, including his wife, and brokerage firms who recruited investors have come under intense scrutiny by the FBI, regulators and a court-appointed trustee overseeing the liquidation of Madoff’s assets.
The trustee and prosecutors have sought to go after assets to compensate thousands of burned victims who have filed claims against Madoff. How much is available to pay them remains unknown, though it’s expected to be only a fraction of the astronomical losses associated with the fraud.

The $171 billion forfeiture figure used by prosecutors merely mirrors the amount they estimate that, over decades, “flowed into the principal account to perpetrate the Ponzi scheme.” The statements sent to investors showing their accounts were worth as much as $65 billion were fiction.
The investigation has found that in reality, Madoff never made any investments, instead using the money from new investors to pay returns to existing clients — and to finance a lavish lifestyle for his family.
In bankruptcy filings, Trustee Irving Picard say family members “used customers accounts as though they were their own,” putting Madoff’s maid, boat captain and house-sitter in Florida on the company payroll and paying nearly $1 million in fees at high-end golf clubs on Long Island and in Florida.
 

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He'll be working for 12 cents to 40 cents per hour for the rest of his life. But he'll still have 3 meals a day, roof over his head, medical and dental coverage etc and will probably teach some cons the ropes of bilking millions of $$ out of people. He will be liked by many in prison and hated. Just hope some of the correction officers aren't related to any people who were ripped off by him!
 
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He'll be working for 12 cents to 40 cents per hour for the rest of his life. But he'll still have 3 meals a day, roof over his head, medical and dental coverage etc and will probably teach some cons the ropes of bilking millions of $$ out of people. He will be liked by many in prison and hated. Just hope some of the correction officers aren't related to any people who were ripped off by him!


Maybe a Modern Shawshank Redemption ?? :laugh:
 

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now I hope they take the assets of his wife and kids, make them start from scratch

let him know his family is going to suffer too
 
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now I hope they take the assets of his wife and kids, make them start from scratch

let him know his family is going to suffer too

That alright, it has already started.

Today NY Post ran a story about , Ruth Madoff looking for an Apartment in the City. Nobody will Rent her a place.

She's going through an Agent, but when the Landlord asks who is the Renter, they refuse to lease or Rent to her. :toast:
 
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Madoff

They should tie his b's to a rope and hang 'em then say "oh it just started small and got out of hand."
 

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Im sure Madoff has millions hiding somewhere & his wife will get her hands on it when the time is right. As for Madoff, he probably started out doing the right thing in his business but greediness got in the way & sky rocketed from there.
 

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Im sure Madoff has millions hiding somewhere & his wife will get her hands on it when the time is right. As for Madoff, he probably started out doing the right thing in his business but greediness got in the way & sky rocketed from there.

That's kind of obvious ... but I think he stashed shit away for his kids.

The guy wasn't "caught". He had plenty of time to hide what he had to hide for his wife and his kids.

IF THE FEDS WANT TO FIND SOME OF THE LOOT, THEY SHOULD KEEP ON AN EYE ON HIS KIDS' LIFESTYLE.
 

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I believe there are some non-violent crimes for which there should be the death penalty for the harm they do and I believe this is one of those. Maybe Madoff will get "Dahmered".
 

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Madoff lead to the deaths of multiple people that commited suicide and who knows how many more. The worst thing about this is he is Jewish and conned many in his own community.
 

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Madoff lead to the deaths of multiple people that commited suicide and who knows how many more. The worst thing about this is he is Jewish and conned many in his own community.
It's funny that you hear about the people that commit suicide because they lost some bread...but not when they lose a son, or a daughter in the war.
Priorities, I guess.
 
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Most of the people conned were wealthy individuals...they have to take some of the blame for being greedy...
 
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Most of the people conned were wealthy individuals...they have to take some of the blame for being greedy...

You only hear about the Wealthy ones. Yes, the Bulk of it was the Rich trying to get Richer.

But there were a lot of "Small" investors. I happen to know Two such people.
They worked all their lives, and Lost it all to this POS.
 

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Agree, it was obvious what was going on by some for sure, investors i mean.

The statements were about as fake as they get from what I read. I understand some of the elderly, but many knew it was to good to be true on the returns.

They are now saying they are going after the investors that profited from it and having them split their gains with those that lost everything
Most of the people conned were wealthy individuals...they have to take some of the blame for being greedy...
 

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10 others to be charged in Madoff probe

they need to arrest his kids too.

NEW YORK (AP) -- Authorities are pursuing charges against 10 more people in the Bernard Madoff financial scandal after the mastermind of one of the biggest financial frauds in history was sentenced to spend the rest of his days behind bars, The Associated Press has learned.

A person familiar with the investigation, speaking on condition of anonymity because the probe is ongoing, wouldn't detail what the potential charges would be or say whether the 10 people include Madoff's family or former employees. So far, only Madoff and an accountant accused of failing to make basic auditing checks have been criminally charged in the multibillion-dollar hoax.

In court Monday, the 71-year-old Madoff admitted it was impossible for him to excuse deeds that U.S. District Judge Denny Chin said cost investors $13.2 billion by conservative estimates and $50 billion by the estimate Madoff gave his sons in December.

"I don't ask any forgiveness," Madoff told Chin. "Although I may not have intended harm, I did a great deal of harm."

Later, he turned around to look at the victims lining the first row of the gallery.

"I will turn and face you," he said mechanically. "I'm sorry. I know that doesn't help you."

The judge then took his turn.

"This is not just a matter of money," Chin said. "The breach of trust was massive. Investors -- individuals, charities, pension funds, institutional clients -- were repeatedly lied to, as they were told their monies would be invested in stocks when they were not."

Madoff received the maximum sentence of 150 years in prison for the massive Ponzi scheme run at least since the early 1990s that demolished the life savings of thousands of people, wrecked charities and shook confidence in the U.S. financial system.

Chin dismissed Madoff's pleas for leniency, noting that Madoff made substantial loans to family members, including moving $15 million of his company's money into his wife's personal accounts as it became clear that the scheme was unraveling.
 

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