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to Seattle, I LOOOOOOVE SF even more now!!!!!!!!!:toast:
 

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i think it's a good deal for the bucs. cedeno and wilson hit about the same. jack a better glove, though. we get a bunch of prospects as usual...all in all, not a bad trade for us. will miss jack though
 

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Waiting on box score for Bucs as looking to see if FREDDY SANCHEZ is in the line up.

Probably going to use Giants today any way but if they don't start him means he is gonzo and this team goes through this every year and hard to go out and give a good effort when the front office is up stairs giving away players for a song.
 

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So who did Seattle have to give up?



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Jack Wilson, Ian Snell shipped to the Mariners

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By The Tribune-Review Wednesday, July 29, 2009
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The Pirates today traded shortstop Jack Wilson and minor-league right-hander Ian Snell to the Seattle Mariners for five players.
Coming to the Pirates are first baseman Jeff Clement, shortstop Ronny Cedeno and right-handed pitchers Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock.
Wilson has been the Pirates' shortstop since 2001 and was the longest current tenured player with the team as well as one of its most popular players. Here is the rest of the Pirates' official news release on the trade:
The 25-year-old Clement was Seattle's first-round selection (third overall) in the 2005 First-Year Player Draft and was rated by Baseball America as the organization's number one prospect for both 2006 and 2008.
Clement hit .288 (107-for-372) with 33 doubles, three triples, 14 home runs, 68 RBI and 65 runs scored while also producing a .505 slugging percentage in 92 games this year with Triple-A Tacoma of the Pacific Coast League.
The 6-foot-1 left-handed hitting Clement entered today's action ranked second among all Pacific Coast League hitters in doubles (33) and tied for sixth in total bases (188) and RBI (68). He also produced a .340 average (16-for-47) with seven doubles, two home runs and 13 RBI in his first 12 games since the All-Star break.
Clement broke into the Majors in just two years after having his contract selected by Seattle on September 4, 2007. In parts of two seasons with the Mariners, he hit .237 (52-for-219) with 11 doubles, seven home runs, 26 RBI and 21 runs scored in 75 games.
Prior to being drafted by Seattle, Clement played collegiately at the University of Southern California for three years (2003-05), where he was named to the 2005 Baseball America All-America First-Team, USA Today Sports Weekly All-America First-Team and Collegiate Baseball All-America First-Team. He was also tabbed by Baseball America as the "Best Power Hitter" among college prospects in 2005 and was the winner of the Johnny Bench Award (college baseball's top catcher) and a finalist for the Golden Spikes Award (top amateur player in the country) in the same year.
"Our scouts have consistently projected Clement to be an everyday Major League contributor with the power to hit 20-plus home runs," said Huntington. "He has been an extremely highly-regarded prospect since he was drafted third overall in 2005 and has performed consistently since then, showing the tools to be a quality offensive player."
Cedeno spent his entire career with the Chicago Cubs organization before being acquired by Seattle in January in a three-player deal. The 26-year-old infielder played in 59 games this year for the Mariners and entered today's action with a .238 career average (259-for-1090) with 39 doubles, nine triples, 18 home runs and 105 RBI in 388 games in parts of five years in the big leagues.
Cedeno made 40 appearances (39 starts) at shortstop, 13 appearances (eight starts) at second base, seven appearances (four starts) in left field and two appearances (two starts) at third base this year with the Mariners.
"Ronny is a solid Major League defensive-oriented shortstop," said Huntington. "We feel we can help him become more productive with the bat, while his defense helps our pitching staff."
Pribanic went 7-6 with a 3.21 ERA (87.0ip/31er) while surrendering just one home run in 17 starts for Single-A Clinton of the Midwest League this year while being named to the league's mid-season All-Star team. He was charged with two earned runs or fewer in 12 of his first 13 outings, won six of his first eight decisions, had an ERA below 3.00 after his first 15 starts and entered today's action ranked 10th in the league in that category.
The 22-year-old righthander was Seattle's third-round selection (98th overall) in the 2008 First-Year Player Draft from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. At the time he was drafted, Aaron was the highest Husker taken since 2006, when Joba Chamerlain was selected by the New York Yankees in the first round.
"Aaron has been highly regarded since he was drafted in the third round out of the University of Nebraska in 2008 by Seattle," said Huntington. "He put up excellent numbers in his first full professional season. He has a heavy four-seam fastball that reaches up to 93 miles per hour and a two-seam fastball with significant sinking and tailing life low in the zone that has allowed him to get ground balls."
Lorin went 5-4 with a 2.44 ERA (88.2ip/24er), 87 strikeouts and just 25 walks in 16 starts this year for Single-A Clinton. The 6-foot-7 righthander was named to this year's Midwest League All-Star team after leading the league with 77 strikeouts at the All-Star break. The 22-year-old righthander entered today's action ranked third among all Midwest League pitchers in ERA (2.44) after allowing two earned runs or fewer in nine of his first 10 outings, which included a 0.75 mark after his first four starts (24.0ip/2er).
Lorin was selected by Seattle in the fifth round of the 2008 First-Year Player Draft from Cal State University-Long Beach. He began his professional career with Single-A Everett of the Northwest League last year, where he was named the club's Pitcher-of-the-Year after going 1-0 with a 2.82 ERA (22.1ip/7er) and 29 strikeouts in five starts. He was then promoted to Single-A Wisconsin of the Midwest League, where he was charged with two earned runs or fewer in five of his six starts.
"Brett has been noted by our scouts for his plus makeup, competitive nature and desire to win and succeed," said Huntington. "He complements his solid fastball that can touch the mid-90s with a curveball that has shown tight rotation and the form to project to an above-average Major-League curveball."
Adcock went 5-7 with a 5.29 ERA (102.0ip/60er) in 21 games (19 starts) with Single-A High Desert of the California League. He went 5-3 with a 3.70 ERA (82.2ip/34er) in 14 starts before the All-Star Game and was charged with three earned runs or fewer in 10 of his 19 starting assignments.
The 21-year old Adcock was selected by Seattle in the fifth round of the 2006 First-Year Player Draft from North Hardin (KY) High School, where he was named a third-team All-American by the National Baseball Coaches Association during his senior year.
During his first professional season in 2006 with Peoria of the Arizona League, Adcock posted a 3.31 ERA (35.1ip/13er) in 10 games, including a 1.64 ERA in six starts. Last year with Single-A Wisconsin of the Midwest League, he allowed three earned runs or fewer in all but three of his 14 starts and two or fewer in seven of his starting assignments.
"Nathan has shown our scouts quality pitching instincts, including a curveball that was ranked the best in Seattle's system by Baseball America," said Huntington. "Despite pitching in the worst pitcher's park in baseball in High Desert of the California League, Adcock has shown the ability to get ground balls with an advanced three-pitch mix and the ability to locate his 91-plus mile per hour fastball, which are crucial tools in a Major League pitcher."
Ronny Cedeno will join the Pirates. Jeff Clement has been assigned to Triple-A Indianapolis. Aaron Pribanic and Brett Lorin have been assigned to Single-A West Virginia of the South Atlantic League and Nathan Adcock will join Single-A Lynchburg of the Carolina League.
 

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got sum decent prospects I guess, dunno much about em

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What gets me about this trade is M's being buyers and not sellers?

They will never catch the Angels.
 

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Waiting on box score for Bucs as looking to see if FREDDY SANCHEZ is in the line up.

Probably going to use Giants today any way but if they don't start him means he is gonzo and this team goes through this every year and hard to go out and give a good effort when the front office is up stairs giving away players for a song.


Sanchez is a gonner as he is not in starting line-up because he will be clearing out before the games conclusion.



• Lineups for this afternoon's game:
PIRATES — 1.Andrew McCutchen cf, 2. Andy LaRoche 3b, 3. Delwyn Young 2b, 4. Garrett Jones lf, 5. Steve Pearce 1b, 6. Brandon Moss rf, 7. Ramon Vazquez ss, 8. Jason Jaramillo c, 9. Zach Duke (9-9, 3.42) lhp
GIANTS — 1. Andres Torres cf, 2. Randy Winn rf, 3. Pablo Sandoval 3b, 4. Bengie Molina c, 5. Ryan Garko 1b, 6. Edgar Renteria ss, 7. Eugenio Velez lf, 8. Juan Uribe 2b, 9. Matt Cain (12-2, 2.27) rhp
 

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i just realized that cedeno is 0 for his last 24....that's why we got him lol
 

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As a M's fan, I would like to say this is a fairly even trade, but it is debatable.

I think the big thing for the Pirates was dumping Wilson's salary, even though they gave up some cash. The guy had roughly 15% of their payroll, while not really justifying that. The Mariner's gladly will accept the costly veteran as they have done in the past.

Clement had an extended audition this year, and with Safeco being lefty friendly, didn't amount to much. We have others in Tacoma that are just like him. Yes, I'm sure the Pirates executives got all happy he is a former first rounder, but I gave up on him being the next superstar. I believe that he will never amount to 20 HR's a year as the Buc's GM predicts. Sorry.

Also, I'm glad to see :(edeno go. That guy swings a Louisville wet-noodle model. Wilson will be welcomed, gladly, even with the $8 million or so club option. Hopefully he makes the M's even more webgem worthy. Yay, defense!

I don't know to much about the class A guys we gave up, other than only one averages a K/Inning, which I like to see for pitchers in lower level MiLB. Let's hope Snell likes the change of scenery.
 

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