CHS/KC... what's the play?

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Over 8.5

Both starters have good numbers against the opposing team but the pens have been horrible in this series. Contreras hasn't faced KC this year but last year he was 2-0 with a 2.10 ERA. Grienke has only given up 5 runs in 4 starts vs. chi sox this season. So its hard to pick a side the total has to be the play.

parlayallday said:

Both starters have good numbers against the opposing team but the pens have been horrible in this series. Contreras hasn't faced KC this year but last year he was 2-0 with a 2.10 ERA. Grienke has only given up 5 runs in 4 starts vs. chi sox this season. So its hard to pick a side the total has to be the play.

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Unfortunately that stat from last year is completely meaningless. Contreras is a completely different pitcher this year.....and not in a good way. His ERA is over 10 in the month of August.

Little side stat. CWS have only won game 3 of a series 9 out of 36 times this season (25%).

Broncos625 said:

Unfortunately that stat from last year is completely meaningless. Contreras is a completely different pitcher this year.....and not in a good way. His ERA is over 10 in the month of August.

Little side stat. CWS have only won game 3 of a series 9 out of 36 times this season (25%).

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I agree that its meaningless, I was looking for stats vs. KC and thats all I could get.
Well that makes my over play seem a little stronger. THanks Bronco!

i think the Wsox is the play

I'm bored at work, sooooo I put $100 on the WS money line and $50 on the over. These early games make work fly by.

A quick glance at Zack Greinke's 1-6 record, 6.70 ERA and 1.49 WHIP in nine career games (seven starts) at U.S. Cellular Field might indicate he should be benched for his Wednesday matchup. Not so. He tossed six shutout innings of three-hit baseball April 8 for his first career win there, and in four starts versus the White Sox this season, he is 2-1 with a 1.61 ERA, 1.07 WHIP and 30 strikeouts in 28 innings in four starts. …

Really don't think there is a good play in this game...

The over looks alright considering Contreras sucks, but for it to happen all the runs will have to be manufactured, connecting hit after hit because Contreras doesn't give up the long ball, and 10-15mph wins directly in from center aren't going to help. Greinke has been throwing great, without run support, losing games with totals of ~6 runs. Tough to take the under here, but it might be the only correct play I see. KC scores a lot of runs on homers, and the Whitesox offense is pretty horrible against Greinke outside of Scotty Pods.

Not a very good game to get your daily itch off on.

Lean is Under 8.5, Maybe CHW +1.5 -135, but I'm probably not betting it. Just my input.

I like WSox +125 and +1.5 -130....GL to all!

Looks like its gonna be a last minute decission for me...

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Current Season Performance</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader"> </td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="3">Team Records</td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="3">Team</td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="3">Opponent</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader"> </td><td class="matchupSubHeader">W-L</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Units</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">O-U</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Runs</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Avg</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">OBP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Runs</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Avg</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">OBP</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">All Games</td><td class="matchupCells">61-59</td><td class="matchupCells">+1.6</td><td class="matchupCells">49-68</td><td class="matchupCells">4.7</td><td class="bad">0.262</td><td class="matchupCells">0.329</td><td class="good">4.5</td><td class="good">0.259</td><td class="matchupCells">0.324</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Home Games</td><td class="matchupCells">34-28</td><td class="matchupCells">+0</td><td class="matchupCells">23-38</td><td class="bad">4.6</td><td class="bad">0.250</td><td class="bad">0.323</td><td class="matchupCells">4.7</td><td class="good">0.254</td><td class="matchupCells">0.323</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">vs Right-handed Starters</td><td class="matchupCells">39-43</td><td class="matchupCells">-3.7</td><td class="matchupCells">30-49</td><td class="bad">4.5</td><td class="bad">0.259</td><td class="matchupCells">0.324</td><td class="good">4.6</td><td class="good">0.259</td><td class="matchupCells">0.325</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Past 7 Games</td><td class="matchupCells">4-3</td><td class="matchupCells">+1</td><td class="matchupCells">3-4</td><td class="matchupCells">4.7</td><td class="matchupCells">0.262</td><td class="good">0.360</td><td class="good">3.6</td><td class="matchupCells">0.263</td><td class="good">0.303</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Grass Games</td><td class="matchupCells">57-49</td><td class="matchupCells">+6.4</td><td class="matchupCells">41-62</td><td class="matchupCells">4.7</td><td class="matchupCells">0.262</td><td class="matchupCells">0.331</td><td class="good">4.5</td><td class="good">0.258</td><td class="good">0.323</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Day Games</td><td class="matchupCells">20-26</td><td class="matchupCells">-7.3</td><td class="matchupCells">20-25</td><td class="bad">4.5</td><td class="matchupCells">0.264</td><td class="matchupCells">0.335</td><td class="matchupCells">4.9</td><td class="matchupCells">0.271</td><td class="matchupCells">0.333</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Division</td><td class="matchupCells">25-28</td><td class="matchupCells">-4.4</td><td class="matchupCells">21-31</td><td class="matchupCells">4.7</td><td class="matchupCells">0.264</td><td class="matchupCells">0.331</td><td class="matchupCells">4.8</td><td class="good">0.257</td><td class="matchupCells">0.327</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupBorder"><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupHeader" colspan="19">CHI WHITE SOX - Team Hitting and Fielding Statistics</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader">Team Batting</td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="15">Team Batting</td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="3">Team Fielding</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader"> </td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Runs</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">AVG</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">OBP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">G</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">AB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">H</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">EB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">HR</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">/AB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">RBI</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">BB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">SO</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">SB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">LOB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">GIDP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ERR</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">DP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">OSB</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">All Games</td><td class="matchupCells">4.7</td><td class="bad">0.262</td><td class="matchupCells">0.329</td><td class="matchupCells">120</td><td class="matchupCells">4036</td><td class="bad">1057</td><td class="bad">327</td><td class="matchupCells">144</td><td class="matchupCells">0.04</td><td class="matchupCells">539</td><td class="matchupCells">406</td><td class="matchupCells">762</td><td class="matchupCells">75</td><td class="good">809</td><td class="matchupCells">120</td><td class="matchupCells">90</td><td class="matchupCells">119</td><td class="matchupCells">98</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Home Games</td><td class="bad">4.6</td><td class="bad">0.250</td><td class="bad">0.323</td><td class="matchupCells">62</td><td class="matchupCells">2013</td><td class="bad">504</td><td class="bad">154</td><td class="matchupCells">80</td><td class="matchupCells">0.04</td><td class="matchupCells">271</td><td class="matchupCells">215</td><td class="matchupCells">378</td><td class="matchupCells">37</td><td class="good">405</td><td class="matchupCells">53</td><td class="bad">51</td><td class="matchupCells">58</td><td class="matchupCells">49</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Righty Starters</td><td class="bad">4.5</td><td class="bad">0.259</td><td class="matchupCells">0.324</td><td class="matchupCells">82</td><td class="matchupCells">2763</td><td class="bad">716</td><td class="bad">217</td><td class="matchupCells">91</td><td class="matchupCells">0.03</td><td class="matchupCells">356</td><td class="matchupCells">263</td><td class="matchupCells">516</td><td class="matchupCells">54</td><td class="good">553</td><td class="matchupCells">73</td><td class="matchupCells">63</td><td class="matchupCells">73</td><td class="matchupCells">67</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupBorder"><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupHeader" colspan="16">CHI WHITE SOX - Bullpen Pitching Statistics</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader"> </td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ERA</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">WHIP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">IP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">R</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ER</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">H</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">HR</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">BB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">SO</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">W-L</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">SV</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">BSV</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Pct.</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">All Games</td><td class="good">3.80</td><td class="matchupCells">1.433</td><td class="matchupCells">343.4</td><td class="matchupCells">161</td><td class="matchupCells">145</td><td class="matchupCells">339</td><td class="good">33</td><td class="matchupCells">153</td><td class="good">328</td><td class="matchupCells">19-17</td><td class="matchupCells">28</td><td class="matchupCells">14</td><td class="matchupCells">66.7%</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Home Games</td><td class="matchupCells">4.30</td><td class="matchupCells">1.433</td><td class="matchupCells">194.7</td><td class="matchupCells">98</td><td class="matchupCells">93</td><td class="matchupCells">192</td><td class="matchupCells">20</td><td class="matchupCells">87</td><td class="good">204</td><td class="matchupCells">13-6</td><td class="matchupCells">13</td><td class="matchupCells">7</td><td class="matchupCells">65%</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table class="datatable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><th class="header2">Starting Pitcher Season to Date Performance</th></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td class="copy" colspan="2">ZACK GREINKE recent results and season statistics</td></tr><tr><td><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupBorder"><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupHeader" colspan="16">ZACK GREINKE - Season Statistics in Games Started</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader"> </td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="12">Starter Statistics</td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="3">Team Records</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader"> </td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ERA</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">WHIP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">W-L</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">G</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">IP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">IP/S</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">R</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ER</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">H</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">HR</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">BB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">SO</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">W-L</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Units</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">O-U</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">All Starts</td><td class="good">2.33</td><td class="good">1.142</td><td class="matchupCells">11-7</td><td class="matchupCells">24</td><td class="matchupCells">166.3</td><td class="good">6.9</td><td class="good">51</td><td class="good">43</td><td class="matchupCells">153</td><td class="good">7</td><td class="good">37</td><td class="good">174</td><td class="matchupCells">11-13</td><td class="matchupCells">-6.9</td><td class="matchupCells">9-15</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Road Starts</td><td class="good">2.81</td><td class="good">1.168</td><td class="matchupCells">4-4</td><td class="matchupCells">11</td><td class="matchupCells">73.7</td><td class="good">6.7</td><td class="good">25</td><td class="good">23</td><td class="matchupCells">69</td><td class="good">4</td><td class="good">17</td><td class="good">71</td><td class="matchupCells">4-7</td><td class="matchupCells">-4.5</td><td class="matchupCells">3-8</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Last 3 Starts</td><td class="matchupCells">4.26</td><td class="matchupCells">1.526</td><td class="matchupCells">1-1</td><td class="matchupCells">3</td><td class="matchupCells">19</td><td class="matchupCells">6.3</td><td class="matchupCells">9</td><td class="matchupCells">9</td><td class="matchupCells">20</td><td class="good">1</td><td class="bad">9</td><td class="good">21</td><td class="matchupCells">1-2</td><td class="matchupCells">-1</td><td class="matchupCells">2-1</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupBorder"><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupHeader" colspan="15">ZACK GREINKE - Recent Starts</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader">Date</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Opponent</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Score</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Line </td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Total</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Result</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Dec</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">IP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">R</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ER</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">H</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">HR</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">BB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">SO</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Opp Starter</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">8/14/2009</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">at DETROIT</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">0-1</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">+110</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">8</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">Loss,Under</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite"> </td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">7</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">0</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">0</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">3</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">0</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">4</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">7</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">WASHBURN(L)</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">8/8/2009</td><td class="matchupCells Text">OAKLAND</td><td class="matchupCells">12-6</td><td class="matchupCells Text">-215</td><td class="matchupCells">8.5</td><td class="matchupCells Text">Win,Over</td><td class="matchupCells Text">W</td><td class="matchupCells">7</td><td class="matchupCells">3</td><td class="matchupCells">3</td><td class="matchupCells">7</td><td class="matchupCells">0</td><td class="matchupCells">2</td><td class="matchupCells">5</td><td class="matchupCells Text">MORTENSEN(R)</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">8/3/2009</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">at TAMPA BAY</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">4-10</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">+125</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">7.5</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">Loss,Over</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">L</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">5</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">6</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">6</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">10</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">1</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">3</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">9</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">KAZMIR(L)</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr><tr><td class="copy" colspan="2">JOSE CONTRERAS recent results and season statistics</td></tr><tr><td><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupBorder"><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupHeader" colspan="16">JOSE CONTRERAS - Season Statistics in Games Started</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader"> </td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="12">Starter Statistics</td><td class="matchupSubHeader" colspan="3">Team Records</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader"> </td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ERA</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">WHIP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">W-L</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">G</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">IP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">IP/S</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">R</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ER</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">H</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">HR</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">BB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">SO</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">W-L</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Units</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">O-U</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">All Starts</td><td class="matchupCells">5.40</td><td class="matchupCells">1.416</td><td class="matchupCells">4-11</td><td class="matchupCells">18</td><td class="matchupCells">101.7</td><td class="matchupCells">5.6</td><td class="matchupCells">67</td><td class="matchupCells">61</td><td class="matchupCells">105</td><td class="good">9</td><td class="matchupCells">39</td><td class="matchupCells">77</td><td class="matchupCells">6-12</td><td class="matchupCells">-6.6</td><td class="matchupCells">6-11</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Home Starts</td><td class="matchupCells">4.78</td><td class="matchupCells">1.367</td><td class="matchupCells">2-5</td><td class="matchupCells">9</td><td class="matchupCells">49</td><td class="matchupCells">5.4</td><td class="matchupCells">30</td><td class="matchupCells">26</td><td class="good">47</td><td class="good">4</td><td class="matchupCells">20</td><td class="matchupCells">34</td><td class="matchupCells">3-6</td><td class="matchupCells">-4.3</td><td class="matchupCells">3-5</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">Last 3 Starts</td><td class="bad">10.03</td><td class="bad">1.885</td><td class="matchupCells">0-1</td><td class="matchupCells">3</td><td class="matchupCells">11.7</td><td class="bad">3.9</td><td class="bad">14</td><td class="bad">13</td><td class="good">15</td><td class="good">1</td><td class="matchupCells">7</td><td class="matchupCells">9</td><td class="matchupCells">2-1</td><td class="matchupCells">+1.3</td><td class="matchupCells">2-0</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupBorder"><table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="matchupHeader" colspan="15">JOSE CONTRERAS - Recent Starts</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupSubHeader">Date</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Opponent</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Score</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Line </td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Total</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Result</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Dec</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">IP</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">R</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">ER</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">H</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">HR</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">BB</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">SO</td><td class="matchupSubHeader">Opp Starter</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">8/14/2009</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">at OAKLAND</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">8-7</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">+145</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">8.5</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">Win,Over</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite"> </td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">4.3</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">7</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">6</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">8</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">1</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">0</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">4</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">ANDERSON(L)</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCells Text">8/9/2009</td><td class="matchupCells Text">CLEVELAND</td><td class="matchupCells">4-8</td><td class="matchupCells Text">-150</td><td class="matchupCells">10.5</td><td class="matchupCells Text">Loss,Over</td><td class="matchupCells Text">L</td><td class="matchupCells">4.7</td><td class="matchupCells">4</td><td class="matchupCells">4</td><td class="matchupCells">6</td><td class="matchupCells">0</td><td class="matchupCells">2</td><td class="matchupCells">2</td><td class="matchupCells Text">HUFF(L)</td></tr><tr><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">8/4/2009</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">LA ANGELS</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">5-4</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">+135</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">9</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">Win</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite"> </td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">2.7</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">3</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">3</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">1</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">0</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">5</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite">3</td><td class="matchupCellsWhite Text">LACKEY(R)</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

K C for me

As was already said, this is not a great game to bet on. If I had to guess, I'd say Chicago +1.5 would be the best play.

Can't resist Whitesox at home@that price in a pennant race vs. Royals even with Zack.

Sweetland said:

I'm bored at work, sooooo I put $100 on the WS money line and $50 on the over. These early games make work fly by.

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Except when you lose, and you get home and say to yourself "What a waste of money."

2PLAYSMAX said:

Can't resist Whitesox at home@that price in a pennant race vs. Royals even with Zack.

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EXACTY MY THINKING. THE WHITE SOX AT THE CELL SEEMS LIKE THE PLAY FOR THE EARLY ACTION. i HAVE THEM FIRST 5-GAME AND +1.5--GL GENTS LETS MAKE SOME EARLY DOUGH!!:grandmais

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagot...jake-peavy-scheduled-for-two-more-starts.html
August 19, 2009

Jim Thome misses third consecutive start as White Sox try to solve Zack Greinke, Kansas City

By Mark Gonzales
Despite Jim Thome's declaration that he was ready to return to the lineup, the White Sox will try to beat Kansas City and ace Zack Greinke in Wednesday's series finale without Thome in the starting lineup.
Here's the Sox's lineup:
Podsednik cf
Beckham 3b
Dye dh
Konerko 1b
Pierzynski c
Quentin lf
Rios rf
Ramirez ss
Nix 2b
Contreras p

I'm still have Wsox@home as a dog
KC sucks on the road
BOL to all

lets go panty hose!
@)