Mondays baseball discussion thread...8/31

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=650 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#17654b><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>MONDAY</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 1:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>901</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pittsburgh Pirates GM 1
D McCutchen -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>902</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Cincinnati Reds GM 1
K Wells -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 7:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>903</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pittsburgh Pirates GM 2
P Maholm -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>904</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Cincinnati Reds GM 2
J Cueto -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 7:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
Overnight Pitching Change - K Kawakami for T Hudson</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>905</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Atlanta Braves
K Kawakami -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>906</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Florida Marlins
J Johnson -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 8:05 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>907</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Houston Astros
R Oswalt -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+142</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>908</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Chicago Cubs
R Harden -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-152</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 10:05 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>909</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Washington Nationals
L Hernandez -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -170</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+130</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 8 -120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>910</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>San Diego Padres
T Stauffer -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +150</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-140</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 8 +100 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 10:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>911</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Arizona Diamondbacks
D Davis -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -135</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+162</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 8 -105</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>912</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Los Angeles Dodgers
R Wolf -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +115</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-172</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 8 -115 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 1:05 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>913</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Tampa Bay Rays
J Shields -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+104</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 8 ½ +100</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>914</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Detroit Tigers
J Washburn -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +180</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-114</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 8 ½ -120 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 7:05 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>915</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>New York Yankees
A Pettitte -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ -120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-173</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 10 -105</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>916</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Baltimore Orioles
J Guthrie -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ +100</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+163</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 10 -115 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 8:05 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>917</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Toronto Blue Jays
B Cecil -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -140</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+152</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 10 +100</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>918</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Texas Rangers
D Holland -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-162</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 10 -120 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 8:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>919</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Chicago White Sox
G Floyd -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+100</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 9 -105</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>920</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Minnesota Twins
N Blackburn -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +180</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-110</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 9 -115 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 10:05 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>921</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Kansas City Royals
L Hochevar -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -190</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+115</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 8 ½ -120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>922</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Oakland Athletics
G Gonzalez -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +160</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-125</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 8 ½ +100 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 31, 2009 10:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>923</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Los Angeles Angels
J Saunders -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-134</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 9 -110</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>924</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Seattle Mariners
L French -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -140</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+124</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 9 -110 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Texas looks good against Toronto..

Toronto's bats have been horrible lately, Texas is a great home team.. Cecil has a HUGE WHIP.

Going to look more into the Total in the matinee in Detroit.

way over the total in game 1 of that reds/pirates game....that looks like a 12-10 game


likke the over in that detroit/tb early game.........because it makes no sense..lol, probably a 7-4, or 7-5 game

Can they make the total high enough in that game 1?

Two bad pitchers, that probably won't last more than 4-5 innings max.

Loving the card.

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please dont quote anything this gimmick account that e-swallows buffetgambler says please..

Funny how you bite off me and make baseball discussion threads daily now. I could careless though because gynecologist don't worry 99% people here are just as worthless as you.

im playing 3 teams to win 1 game in these new series starting monday: Texas, Dodgers, Cardinals

gynecologist said:

Texas looks good against Toronto..

Toronto's bats have been horrible lately, Texas is a great home team.. Cecil has a HUGE WHIP.

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I like that game very much. BOL

zeke taylor said:

way over the total in game 1 of that reds/pirates game....that looks like a 12-10 game


likke the over in that detroit/tb early game.........because it makes no sense..lol, probably a 7-4, or 7-5 game

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Hi Zeke. So you really like that Pirates-Reds matchup to go over the number easily eh?
You're not concerned about the lack of power in the Pittsburgh lineup?

!~~~!

Betsmart said:

I like that game very much. BOL

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Good to hear man.. Toronto has been playing like shit lately, I don't like the way they've been playing for about 2 weeks..

Texas is always dangerous and should be able to hit Cecil.. Cecil is not that good and he's on the road in a hitters ballpark..

ivan722 said:

Hi Zeke. So you really like that Pirates-Reds matchup to go over the number easily eh?
You're not concerned about the lack of power in the Pittsburgh lineup?

!~~~!

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I know, Pirates and over never sound appealing.. Take away McCutheon and they don't have a very good ballplayer.

gl

detroit Under 8.5

yanks -1

thats what i like

GW

Like Texas over Toronto.

Looking at total in reds/pirates

ive got pirates O9.5 g1

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I am looking at the under 1st 5 innings in the Reds game.

You have a first time starter that looks to be pretty good.

McCutchen is 13-6 with a 3.47 ERA in 24 starts for Triple-A Indianapolis this season with 110 strikeouts and just 29 walks

Kip Wells is no day at the beach but the Bucs are 2-5 last week scoring 3.0 RPG hitting just .248

Scott Erickson once told me/us to bet day games under as no batting practice,don't really prescribe to this as many a day game has gone over.

But here are day games YTD for these two teams


Pitt=16/23 o/u
Cinn= 15/22


So first couple times through the order hoping will be score less.

Can't really bet for full nine as.......


The Reds won't be entering this doubleheader in ideal fashion after having four relievers log 4 2-3 innings Sunday in a 3-2, 12-inning loss to the Dodgers. It was their third extra-inning game in the last six days.

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And of course waiting for boxscore see who's in and out of game one of two.