Driver wears monkey mask to dodge speed-camera tickets

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http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/09/08/20090908dpsmonkey0908.html

Fewer paying speed-camera tickets

But DPS is on lookout for so-called frequent fliers, drivers who flout the system


Dave Vontesmar hates photo enforcement.


Vontesmar drives nearly 30 miles a day from his home in north Phoenix to his job at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport and passes through the photo-enforcement gantlet on Interstate 17, Arizona 51 and Interstate 10.
But when state Department of Public Safety officers served 37 unpaid photo-enforcement tickets to Vontesmar recently, he wasn't fazed.



The photos all show the driver wearing a monkey mask.




"Not one of them there is a picture where you can identify the driver," Vontesmar said. "The ball's in their court. I sent back all these ones I got with a copy of my driver's license and said, 'It's not me. I'm not paying them.' "


The latest data from the DPS shows more motorists are disregarding the violation notices upon arrival in the mail.


When the system was just getting set up in October, 34 percent of drivers paid their tickets. By June, that statistic had dropped to 24 percent.

Program effects

DPS officials repeatedly point out that the success of the photo-enforcement program is not measured in revenue it generates - about $20 million for the state through the end of July - or the number of notices of violation issued.


"Our whole goal is not to issue tickets, just to get people to drive the speed limit," Lt. Jeff King said.


King instead prefers to focus on the program's positive effects on Arizona's highways, particularly in the Valley where fatalities, a factor that closely correlates with speed in wrecks, have dropped by 10 to 20 percent since the same time last year. His anecdotal evidence also points to drivers slowing down.


"The whole purpose behind it is voluntary compliance, and (the cameras) work really good," King said.

DPS statistics support the notion that the program is slowing some drivers down, too. Photo-enforcement cameras activated about 78,000 fewer times in July than in December, though King notes other factors such as the economy could have contributed to fewer drivers being on the road. King said there are plenty of people who willfully disregard the violations that arrive in the mail, generated by the 78 fixed and mobile units around the state.


DPS officers target such drivers, dubbed frequent flyers, who have 15 or more active violations. King said that number could fluctuate from 100 to 600 motorists.


Drivers have 30 days to respond to a notice of violation after it arrives in the mail. Motorists can either pay the fine, challenge the ticket or inform the DPS that the recipient is not the driver and return the paperwork with a copy of their driver's license. Drivers who challenge tickets could end up in Justice Court

Those who ignore the notice may be served with a hand-delivered ticket.


Vontesmar, a flight attendant, chose to inform the DPS that he was not driving when confronted with the 37 violations at his job three weeks ago. DPS officials estimate the car registered in Vontesmar's name was caught by cameras more than 90 times, but time had lapsed on the majority of violations by the time officers tracked Vontesmar down.


Vontesmar is confident that he won't have to pay the fines, an amount that could exceed $6,500.


"It's obviously a revenue grab," he said of the program. "They're required by law to ID the driver of the vehicle. If they can't identify the driver or the vehicle by the picture, what are they doing to identify the driver?"


Typically, the DPS uses driver's-license photos and vehicle registration to confirm the identity of motorists, but there is a special unit assigned to go after frequent fliers.


In this case, officers sat outside Vontesmar's home and watched him drive to work. "We watched him four different times put the monkey mask on and put the giraffe-style mask on," Officer Dave Porter said. "Based on surveillance, we were positive that Vontesmar was the driver."


Porter said that it would be up to justices of the peace to determine what to do with Vontesmar's tickets, but the officer said there is enough evidence to reissue the tickets in Vontesmar's name, despite his claims that he was not the driver.


Some frequent speeders cover their faces, use post-office boxes or fictitious addresses to beat the system, said Officer Jeff Hawkins, who is working 50 such cases.


"They generally do it under the pretext that they're not going to be caught," he said. "These are what you probably consider as people who don't really respect the law at all."
 

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Good article thanx
 

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Well, here in Texas the photo tickets are civil in nature. It doesn't matter who is driving the vehicle, the ticket will be sent to the registered owner of the vehicle.

You can dress up however you like, the ticket will be sent to the registered owner and he/she will be responsible for the ticket.

Bottomline, it doesn't matter whose driving the vehicle.

As a matter of fact some lawyer here has already tried to fight this in court and has lost everytime.
 

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Is it legal to drive while wearing a monkey mask ?

I'd think not.
 

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The government actually sends out people to surveil drivers to see if they are the people who drove the car when tickets were issued? That's what these fuckers waste their time doing? Jeez.
 

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Is it legal to drive while wearing a monkey mask ?

I'd think not.

There is certainly no law of which I'm aware that would prohibit someone driving with a mask concealing their face.

For many people, I imagine it might be quite the improvement.
 

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The government actually sends out people to surveil drivers to see if they are the people who drove the car when tickets were issued? That's what these fuckers waste their time doing? Jeez.

From the short mention in the cited article, they were actually just checking dude out to see if he donned a mask before driving.

Which still does not provide prima facie evidence that it was he driving when the ticket cameras snapped the photo.

Great stuff. I would likely use some type of window tint that was sufficiently translucent to be legal. And I would carefully cut the tint film into letters that read FUCK TRAFFIC CAMERAS from above


Full Disclosure....we don't have those cameras here in Florida, so my Big Bold Plan will have to wait until such a day
 

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They are not ticketing the driver but the vehicle. Again, it doesn't matter whose driving the vehicle, the registered owner will be mailed the ticket.
 

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There is certainly no law of which I'm aware that would prohibit someone driving with a mask concealing their face.

For many people, I imagine it might be quite the improvement.

I'd bet that most states have a catch all violation where this would apply....Limiting peripheral vision, impairing hearing, etc.

Cool story though. Was LOL'ing whwn I heard it on The Herd this morning. Luckily, we only have red light cams out here in SoCal.
 

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They are not ticketing the driver but the vehicle. Again, it doesn't matter whose driving the vehicle, the registered owner will be mailed the ticket.

I believe that in the jurisdiction cited, it's the driver being charged.
 

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....impairing hearing, etc.

Yeah...I would never want to wear anything that would impair my hearing, especially when I have Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti on max volume. I love that album.
 

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They are not ticketing the driver but the vehicle. Again, it doesn't matter whose driving the vehicle, the registered owner will be mailed the ticket.

I believe the laws are different in Arizona than in Texas. I'm not 100% sure. The people I've talked to that live here simply don't pay their tickets unless served the ticket in person. If its mailed, a person could simply say they never received the ticket.
 

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"They generally do it under the pretext that they're not going to be caught," he said. "These are what you probably consider as people who don't really respect the law at all."

I believe what this pig is saying (the Arizona officer, not you barman) is that people who try to evade laws like this have a disrespect for laws in general. This is not necessarily true. People who try to get out of following this law may simply be protesting this law and not the law in general.

I would bet if this pig were alive before the Revolutionary War would speak of Paul Revere and other true patriots as people who don't respect the law at all. I put him on the same level as the swine who try to take away our rights.
 

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QL, good eye.

Martin Luther King was one of many Master Teachers who taught us that it is our moral imperative to disrespect bad laws.
 

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They are coming to Florida. I read somewhere where they are putting in red light camera's in Jacksonville in the next year or so....then a year or so after that they will install speed cameras.

I'm currently living in the DC area and they are ALL OVER the DC area. I read that over HALF of all the speed cameras in the entire US are located in the District of Columbia! What a joke! There are several in Maryland as well. I haven't gotten a ticket yet....and my car is registered in Florida. If I got a ticket in the mail I wouldn't know about it for several months.

I like this guys idea (of the monkey mask)....but as Texasfan stated, I think around here the ticket goes to the owner of the car and the owner is responsible for the ticket being paid. It's total bullshit, IMO.

There is an iPhone application that tells drivers when they are approaching a camera (via GPS). The DC police chief was in the news bitching about it, saying it was cowardly to use the application. What a joke!!
 

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In Cali the ticket also goes to the registered owner but if you aren't the one driving then you don't pay.
 

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Also you have to run a red light to get the ticket and if you do that then fuck you.
 

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after spending 12 days in europe It certainly shows what a joke our limits are. In france on the hwy the limit was 130KM, so one could easily drive 140KM and not fear getting stopped.

Of course in Germany, the autobaund has no limit
 

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Here is a photo of my wife driving 160 (legally) in germany.

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SS, I drove 200+ KPH in Kuwait!! That place is crazy! AND they have speed cameras!! Some of the worst drivers in the world! Especially the Saudi's (when I was in Bahrain we got side swiped by some Saudi dude in a Land Rover!)...
 

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