'I've never lost with my system and the casinos don't like that.'

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Last updated at 4:59 PM on 04th October 2009

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A gambler's winning streak was cut short after he was banned from casinos across Britain after winning £28,000 playing roulette with his 'no-lose' system.
Balvinder Sambhi, from Birmingham, scooped the fortune in just two months using a secret betting pattern which he has spent years perfecting.
But he claims he was so successful that bosses have now banned him from every Grosvenor Casino in the country.

Balvinder Sambhi's biggest single daily win was just over £4,000

Angry Mr Sambhi, 38, said: 'I've never lost with my system and the casinos don't like that.
'They don't want winners in their premises, just losers.

'I used to go into the casino every day and there was never a problem when I was losing thousands of pounds.
'But after using my system to make £28,000 I was taken to one side and told that I was barred. I can't believe it.'

Garage owner Mr Sambhi, who does not want to reveal his winning formula, is writing a tell-all book for other punters.
A letter from the director of security of the Rank Group who run Grosvenor Casinos

He said: 'Experts have always said that winning at roulette is just down to luck.
'But I've spent years developing a system based on simple mathematics which helps me win every time I play.
'In total, I won £28,000 in two months. Some days I won a little and some days a lot.

'My biggest single daily win was just over £4,000.
'But the fact is I was winning consistently and nobody has ever done that before with roulette.'

But his winning streak came to an end on September 15 when the businessman visited Grosvenor Casino in Birmingham city centre and was told he was barred.
Mr Sambhi said: 'I've been a member of that casino for a decade and have never had problems before.

'I spoke to the manager and pleaded to be told why I had been banned but he refused to tell me.
'I said if they thought I was cheating, or money laundering, then they should call the police.

'But he said that was not the case, so the only conclusion is that I was banned because I was winning so much money.
'Yet my system is not cheating it's all about the maths.'
The Birmingham man has since employed solicitors to ask the Grosvenor Casino chain, owned by the Rank Group, for an explanation.
But the company's Director of Security, John Butler, refused and wrote back: 'You will be aware that we are under no legal obligation to give reasons from excluding someone from our premises.
'It is therefore not my intention to assist your client further.'

A spokesman Grosvenor Casinos, which has more than 30 UK casinos, declined to comment.
Mr Sambhi is now hoping to pass on the secrets of his system in his new book, Sequential Roulette: End Game.
He said: 'People have been playing roulette for hundreds of years, yet no-one's ever come up with a system that consistently wins.
'But I've proved that my system works. Now I want to pass it on to other gamblers so they can win big too.'

Sigh.

#1. They didn't say they were banning him because of his system.

#2. It is mathematically proven that it is IMPOSSIBLE for any
betting system to change a theoretical house edge into a
winning game.


http://wizardofodds.com/askthewizard/bettingsystems-faq.html


Betting Systems FAQ

You cite as evidence of the worthlessness of betting systems the fact that none can survive a billion hand computer simulation. If it takes a billion hands to kill my system I'm okay with that because I won't live that long. Why don't you use a more reasonable test like a 1000 hands?

One billion is an arbitrary number. For most systems I could use a much smaller one. However, if the system were based on pick-20 keno, I would need a large sampling to get enough big wins. Furthermore, I'm not just trying to kill a system but to show that the ratio of losses to total amount bet approaches the house edge with a large sampling of hands. Most systems trade lots of small wins for a few big losses. So for short sessions they do usually win. However, all the winnings are given back on the bad days. I could do a million simulations of a thousand hands, average the results, and the result would be the same as a billion hand single session. In other words, if a million people used a system for 1,000 hands and averaged their results, it would be the same as if one person played a billion hands. So what can't be trusted over a billion bets can't be trusted for 1,000, or any number.

I have developed fool proof betting system that will make me as rich as Bill Gates. However it is too good to keep to myself and I would like to share it with you because you seem like such a nice guy. The reason I offer is to see exactly how well it does under a computer simulation. So are you ready to change your life?!

No, go ahead without me. Be sure to write back to say "I told you so" after you make your first million.

I know you won't believe me when I say that I have a betting system that will make me millions. What I would like to know from you is will the casinos throw me out if I win too much?

The casinos see betting systems all day long and are not afraid of them. The more you win, the more they will treat you like royalty. Time is on the casino's side and they know that eventually you will lose it all back. So go ahead and try to take them for all they're worth.

No, really, I have found a betting system that works. I'm 100% positive that by this time next year I will be known as the man who broke Vegas. Just remember my name, because everyone in America will know it soon.

*groan*

What do you think of my betting system?

It is just as worthless as all other betting systems.

What do you think of doubling your bet after every loss at even money games? Wouldn't you win your original bet for every single win, regardless of how many losses preceded the win? It seems to me this method can't lose!

Gamblers have been playing this system, known as the Martingale, for centuries and yet the casinos are still standing. In real life you will eventually either run up against the limit of your bankroll or the maximum bet size. Like most gambling systems, this one trades a lot of small wins for a few huge losses. In the long run you will lose. The Martingale is discussed in more depth in my section on betting systems.

If the Martingale is no good doesn't that mean the anti-Martingale will win?!

Nope. The house edge will kill both of them, and every other betting system.

When do I enter the "long run"?

It is a matter of degree. It is like asking how many grains of sand do you need to a make a heap. The sample mean will approach the true mean as the square root of the sample size increases. I am usually asked this question by someone who is convinced they have a winning betting system and have 1,000 to 10,000 hands to prove it. For purposes of putting a betting system to the test I think you need to be looking in the neighborhood of at least a million hands. The greater the bet size variation the larger the sample size required.

You can turn blackjack into a winner by counting cards.

nimue77 said:

You can turn blackjack into a winner by counting cards.

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counting cards is not a betting system.

In the above article, the guy said his (losing) system was a betting pattern.

Never understood how or why anyone would play roulette for other than a little fun.

How in the he!! can you beat this game on a consistent basis...........

HAche, you can, but it takes a lot. Biased wheels for one, but its a long shot

bigbet1234 said:

HAche, you can, but it takes a lot. Biased wheels for one, but its a long shot

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I saw a documentary similar to '21' where a team of players calculated (pretty accuratly) where the ball would land, by wheel bias etc.
How they did it was the guy would count the clicks as the ball went around, it was complicated and all science but very interesting.

The quit after a few years though, too much stress.

billhill999 said:

I saw a documentary similar to '21' where a team of players calculated (pretty accuratly) where the ball would land, by wheel bias etc.
How they did it was the guy would count the clicks as the ball went around, it was complicated and all science but very interesting.

The quit after a few years though, too much stress.

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Yeah, they had a show about it on that show called I believe "Breaking Vegas."

The guys name was Gonzalo Garcia-Pelayo.

elaborate scheme by this guy and the casino's to sell books and bring in more suckers? :think2:

Roulette is easily beatable. Use match coupons and the $15 in chips for $10. Won't win every time, but long term you will be up 50% of what you bet. Much better than blackjack because with the matchplay, splitting and doubling is not an advantage. Also, with roulette you have a much better chance of seeing guys toss around hundreds of dollars on each spin and that's always cool

When Green Doberman was here he wrote about when he was a roulette dealer (before becoming a sportsbook manager). He said that the roulette dealer would get into certain patterns. It's only natural for a human being doing the same thing over and over again. From this I surmise that one could find a roulette dealer that was more consistent than most and could find a pattern based upon his/her throws.

I have the book "Beyond Counting" next to me. In that book James Grosjean tells about the big wheel that is spun can be beaten because the person doing the spinning gets into certain patterns when spinning the wheel repeatedly.

Find a dealer that spins patterns and you can beat roulette or the big wheel.

quantumleap said:

When Green Doberman was here he wrote about when he was a roulette dealer (before becoming a sportsbook manager). He said that the roulette dealer would get into certain patterns. It's only natural for a human being doing the same thing over and over again. From this I surmise that one could find a roulette dealer that was more consistent than most and could find a pattern based upon his/her throws.

I have the book "Beyond Counting" next to me. In that book James Grosjean tells about the big wheel that is spun can be beaten because the person doing the spinning gets into certain patterns when spinning the wheel repeatedly.

Find a dealer that spins patterns and you can beat roulette or the big wheel.

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I've applied this method with minimal success. Keep tipping the dealer on the same number. Bet 5 chips on that number and bet 1-3 chips on the 3 numbers to the right and 3 numbers to the left on the wheel.

It doesn't work that great, but you will at least have the dealer trying to hit your numbers for you.

Money ! Money !!! MONEY!!!!

Sucker born every day.... obviously I mean the casino. this guy is a genius!!!

I'm guessing, starting with a big enough stack it would be possible.

Pattern recognition, and wheel tming,

biased wheels are really very very uncommon, so in truth the above is the real angle,

so you play with pattern recognition, and employ a simple system, and it is pretty easy to beat the table,

the catch is always leave once your up several Hund. Its when you go for 4 thous, like that Douchebag that you gett banned or kicked out. lol,, too funny,

tater

i could be wrong but couldnt u just go to a casino with like 5000 and have the intention of winning 300 a day or so and just bet 300 on a color nd keep doubling your bet until it comes in that color. know theres limits nd stuff, then just keep going to the higher game, bring the bank with you

ATP, what you describe is the "Martingale system".

300/600/1200/2400

As you can see, just four consecutive losses and you are now minus 4500 of the 5000 with which you entered the casino.

Dude in the cited article is a dink...He should never have gone to the media. Rather, he should have immediately begun assembling the needed materials for him to adopt a variety of elaborate disguises so he could enter the casinos and win a couple thousand before leaving and donning a fresh disguise.

barman said:

Dude in the cited article is a dink...He should never have gone to the media. Rather, he should have immediately begun assembling the needed materials for him to adopt a variety of elaborate disguises so he could enter the casinos and win a couple thousand before leaving and donning a fresh disguise.

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I'm thinking it's all about getting publicity to sell books.