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It has limited uses in modern times....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold

I'd want to see some developing future need for the material, on the horizon.

It was cool with the ancient people:

heavier than everything else
pretty
soft and malleable
doesn't rust or really tarnish
scarce
basically kinda cool stuff, so it became jewelry and money/ coins....but it wasn't really needed, eh ?

fast forward a few thousand years, it's no longer circulating as actual coinage, still used as jewelery, and great for high level electronics.

Most all of the gold ever mined sits in vaults doing nothing, but being hoarded.

More can be produced from old mines, if the price skyrockets, the old mines again become productive at new prices.

Nearly all old gold is recycable, your wedding band from 1910 is sold by your grandchildren, becomes my band in 2001.

The amount of the world's gold that sits in Ft Knox is staggering. I don't have exact figures, but I'd venture a guess that over 50% of the gold ever mined, sits in Buttfuck, Kentucky.

It may as well not exist, IMO.

Question why gold will continue to valuable.

It was taken away by FDR in 1933, BTW.

You can't pay for a house in bullion. Give me FH's farm instead !

Gold's value is too historically based.

Times are different now

Be careful (Goldbugs), IMO.

Shit hits the fan, your Gold ain't shit

In conclusion....you're buying something with limited uses, IMO !
 

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The amount of the world's gold that sits in Ft Knox is staggering. I don't have exact figures, but I'd venture a guess that over 50% of the gold ever mined, sits in Buttfuck, Kentucky.

i don't know about that one. i got on a die hard kick the other day, and in part 3 they went through an elaborate plan to rob the federal reserve of all its gold. according to the movie, there's 10 times as much gold in the federal reserve than in ft. knox.....plus i went to basic at ft. knox, and they took us on a drive by of the reserve, and it's been close to a decade, but anyway, i remember the drill sergeants telling us it was more myth than fact
 

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Gold a problem when you're trying to break off a chunk small enough to pay for a $19 a night hotel room
 

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O it used to not be a myth...the gold was there at 1 time. I'd be willing to bet its not there now though....
Saw something interesting last night. A quarter used to buy a loaf of bread....back when it did a quarter had actual silver in it. That same quarter ( the 1 with silver in it) will STILL buy a loaf of bread today (they are worth approx. $3 each.
Walk into a $19 motel and see if u cant get that room for a chunk of gold......ILL bet you'll get the VIP
 

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gold is a store of wealth it does exactly what its supposed to do...its rare...it cannot be created or destroyed...All the gold mined in the world in history would fit in a cube 60 feet on each side, that is to say, it would fit in the space underneath the Eiffel Tower.


gold will continue to become more and more valuable bc our countries continue to print more and more paper fiat money...running a zillion dollars off a printing press and calling it money is fine until people start realizing everyone has tons of it laying around and thats when people start clamoring for other stuff like gold or silver or oil...and other commodities...that is starting to happen now...

i can understand if you dont like gold and you are a silver bug bc it has more industrial uses and is also a store of wealth...or oil or other commodities or even a farm like you said...but anyone who wants to hoard their dollar bills instead of getting rid of them and buying other "stuff" is crazy....
 

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The problem is if the shit really hits the fan and dollar is considerably devalued we would most likely resort to barter. Barter would be based purely on the utility of an item. Gold doesnt really have a lot of utility when people are starving.
 

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Ignorance is bliss, Eh??

A monetary system based on fiat currency should be what scares the hell out of you.
Keep those presses rolling. Yahoo!
 

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QUESTION: Why is gold as valuable as it is? Why isn't sodium or tin as valuable?
ANSWER: Gold is one of three precious metals, the others being Platinum and to a lesser extent silver. The main reason for their value is that they are rare. You can put all the gold ever found in a cube less than 150 feet. Not very big by today's standards. In a good gold mine, you have to move and refine ten tons of dirt or rock for each ounce of gold recovered. There are not many good gold mines in the world either. The second property of a precious metal is that it has to be impervious to the elements. In other words it cannot rust, corrode, or be degradable by other elements. Gold is so inert that it is sometimes found in nature in the natural metal state in the form of nuggets. This allowed people in ancient times to take the natural nuggets and pound them together to form metal objects. Gold does not oxidize or corrode, so it’s shape will remain a thousand years from now if you do not ware it away.
Other properties making it valuable is malleability. You can literally beat on it and it tends not to crack. In fact gold can be hammered out so thin that light will pass through it. It has been hammered out thinner than tinfoil and applied to objects as "Gold Foil". Gold foil stays a highly reflective beautiful yellow color, lasting forever. There never has been a paint that will last and protect like gold foil. Gold was used to cover idols and temples raising its status even further.
Historically, only the affluent, churches, and governments could afford to own gold. It’s value was based on work. People worked to earn gold (or silver), virtually trading part of their lives for gold and its purchasing power. It quickly became impractical to carry large piles of gold, so governments took most of the gold and gave people promissory notes (money) representing a given weight in gold. Before the early 30’s you could take your money to the bank and get the same amount of dollars in gold coins.
Let’s talk about that beautiful yellow color. Gold just looks good and glorifies human skin colors. A fine craftsperson can form gold into small sculptures that can be worn, admired, and enjoyed. It can be fashioned into small sculptures that hold precious stones - jewelry. Because of its permanence, gold can be repaired and admired for many lifetimes. Thus you have precious jewelry, as opposed to costume jewelry, which is intended to wear with just one "costume" and then be discarded.
Today there are other new uses for gold. Gold transfers electricity with less resistance than any other metal on this earth. Extremely high-end electronics and computer components use gold wiring instead of copper for their circuitry. Gold does not corrode and it is used to plate or make fine electrical contacts. It is very reflective and is used in equipment that needs to not oxidize like laser chambers. Very thin layers cut down on light without changing its properties. Astronauts, pilots and high-end sunglasses are coated with gold to cut down on the intensity of the sun's rays. Extremely fine fabrics have gold threads because gold does not dull with time.
The value of gold will never go down. At a certain level of value, mines will shut down operations because production costs are higher than they can sell it for. Today, there are more uses for gold being found daily. The question is, “will we have enough gold to fulfill the demand in the future?” There has never been enough gold in the past to fulfill everyone’s desire. And there will not be enough gold to fill future demands. Gold is beautiful and it has very valuable rare properties which makes it so valuable.
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The Lure of Gold
Gold! Gold fever! The Golden State. Good as gold. Golden anniversary. Gold medal. The Golden years. Solid gold Cadillac. Go for the gold . . .

In almost all cultures around the world throughout history, gold has been valued and sought as a precious metal: gold as a mineral, gold as a commodity, gold as a precious object.

It has been a symbol of power, wealth and success. It has provoked greed and lust. It has been hoarded. It has launched expeditions and wars.

Gold is soft, malleable, and easily crafted into beautiful decorative objects. It is resilient and resistant to corrosives. It is valuable in industry and medicine. It is an enduring symbol.

And gold is relatively scarce, making it all the more desirable and valuable. Gold is the stuff of dreams.
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Sure, it's pretty cool that you can get cash for gold through a website and U.S. Postal Service. But have you ever wondered why gold is so valuable? This article will discuss some of the reasons that gold is highly valued, even after thousands of years.

The main reason that gold is so valuable is because it is rare. It's been said that if you took all the gold in the whole world and lumped it all together, you would only end up with a 150 foot cube. Mining for gold is a very expensive and difficult process. To extract one ounce of gold you have to dig and move about ten tons of dirt or rock. It's a very labor intensive job and can only be done in certain geographic areas.

Another reason gold is considered to be valuable is that it is inert, meaning that it does not interact with other elements. Gold doesn't rust, corrode or degrade. It basically lasts forever, which is something that can't really be said for most other materials.

One property of gold that contributes to it's value is that is is extremely malleable. This means that it can be stretched, pounded and twisted without breaking or cracking. This allows people to shape gold into many different forms such as jewelry or create paper-thin gold foil that can cover objects to make them appear as if they are made from gold. Gold is also an excellent conductor of electricity and is used in computer circuits and many computer and audio cables have "gold plated" contacts.

In early days, people could use gold nuggets or trinkets to directly pay for goods and services. In modern times, governments have large stores of gold that is used to back the value of currency in the form of paper and coins. Each U.S. dollar is actually like and I.O.U. for a tiny little fraction of the U.S. gold reserve. You may be familiar with the story that Fort Knox is where all of the U.S.'s gold is kept. While there is a large store of gold there, it does not represent the entire amount of gold that the U.S. has.

All of these factors contribute to the real reason that gold is so valuable - because everyone agrees that it is. You would be hard pressed to find a person on Earth that wouldn't accept a big chunk of gold as payment (as long as it could be verified that it was indeed gold). Hundreds of years ago people liked gold for it's rarity and natural beauty. Today, those same reasons hold true, but gold is looked at as more of a "universal currency". When the U.S. economy has trouble and the dollar dips down in value, the price of gold usually goes up. It's a safer investment because historically it has always had a high value.

The bottom line is that gold is so valuable because most people agree that it is valuable. The fact that it's rare, hard to obtain, pretty and easy to work with are all contributing factors.

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Many investors agree that silver is the better hedge. Silver has many industrial uses. Many of these uses destroy the silver in the process. Get out of dollars while you still have the chance.
If you are looking for some silver exposure look into:
ishares SilverTrust ETF (NYSE:SLV)
This ETF deals in physical silver bullion.

...but if you still like gold look into:
SPRD Gold Trust (NYSE:GLD)
This ETF deals in physical gold bullion.
 

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i think gold has more then proved itself after sticking around over thousands of years while other currencies and stores of wealth have crashed and burned. obviously it means something...just look at the 10 year chart....
 

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Something is worth only what people are willing to pay or do for it. I am confident the US Dollars the bank says I own will continue to let me acquire other stuff. Since a few billion people have that same confidence in both gold and cash, niether is going anywhere
 

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The problem is if the shit really hits the fan and dollar is considerably devalued we would most likely resort to barter. Barter would be based purely on the utility of an item. Gold doesnt really have a lot of utility when people are starving.

The survival of a species does not require an economics system, but our way of life certainly does. Cash and gold are simply ways of transferring labor. What would happen if a baker tries to save one extra loaf of bread every day until he has enough to trade for a flat screen TV? Think a car dealer would take the barber up on his offer to trade a new Toyota for a haircut every day for the next three years?
 

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TOM your statement is where most people are naive etc...

i do wholeheartedly agree days from now...years from now...decades from now USD's will still buy gas/bread/tv
s/clothes etc BUT the purchasing power of those dollars relative to the price of gold in USD's will be worth FAR FAR less than it currently is today

this is the analogy i tell me friends all the time to try to help them understand...

would you rather have $1000 back in 1910 1960 or 2010

1910 bc you could purchase a lot more goods than you could in 1960 with that 1000 and much much more than you could today....thats whats happening to our currency its being devalued and its not taking a generation like in the past...this isnt going to be one of those grandma stories to your kids, i remember when bread was 10cents a loaf...this is happening very quickly...its not going to take a generation to see your buying power in USD's get slashed in half...its going to happen in a handful of years...

gl holding your dollars....
 

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One possiblitity is that our govt gets its head out of its ass, after Obama's clown show is over of course, and actually develops some sense of fiscal responsibility. If this does happen gold would fall and the dollar would rise.
 

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The problem is if the shit really hits the fan and dollar is considerably devalued we would most likely resort to barter. Barter would be based purely on the utility of an item. Gold doesnt really have a lot of utility when people are starving.

Agree with that. Gold is not useful for everyday transactions.

In addition, another problem is the govt. could just confiscate all domestic gold. ^<<^
 

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FDR did just that in 1933.

I can't see it happening again, when the US Mint is the one selling gold to citizens in recent years.
 

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