Bucs Trade Former #4 Overall Pick DE Gaines Adams To The Bears

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Thank God we ditched him.

He just doesn't have it, as Chicago will soon find out as well.

Wish it could have been a 1st Rounder though.....
 

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<TABLE width="100%" align=center><TBODY><TR><TD class=vaLabel vAlign=top rowSpan=5 width=100 align=middle> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=subHead vAlign=top colSpan=3>Bears land 2007 No. 4 pick Adams from Bucs </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=vaLabel colSpan=3>Gaines Adams - DL - CHI - Oct. 16

</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=3>Bears acquired DE Gaines Adams from the Buccaneers in exchange for what is believed to be a 2010 second-round draft pick.
While Bucs GM Mark Dominik mails in the season by dealing off his most gifted pass rusher and nearing insertion of an underclassman rookie QB, Bears GM Jerry Angelo is in the talent acquisition business. Trading first-day picks isn't advised, except when the return is a 26-year-old with dominating ability and a contract through 2012. Jim Bates, who's clearly lost his touch, couldn't get enough out of Adams in his first season as Bucs defensive coordinator. It's a good bet that Bears defensive line coach Rod Marinelli will.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
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It's a good bet that Bears defensive line coach Rod Marinelli will.

I had to laugh at that one. Wouldn't say Marinelli is a good judge of DL talent, or a good coach for that matter. All you have to do is look at is track record in Detroit. He ran their only good DL in Shaun Rogers out of towns, drafting stiffs and bringing in Tampa rejects. Detroit had to be bottom of the league in sacks while this guy was there.

Yes, he had success in Tampa, but who wouldn't have with guys like Sapp and Simeon Rice?

As for Gaines, I always thought that he had bust written all over him.
 

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"Bucs' most gifted pass rusher..."


That implies he's got some good upside. 13.5 sacks in 37 career starts tells us otherwise
 

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This sends an important message to the rest of TB's roster.

Either up your performance level or we will trade you to a playoff contender.

d1g1t
 

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Wow....Bears got owned again.

Not picking until the 3rd round in '10 now? Are they trying to become the Redskins?
 

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I've been a bucs fan for 20 years but its getting harder and harder to like this team. This was a 9-7 team last year that has several good players on it and it became a laughing stock faster than any NFL team in history. I wouldn't mind giving up Adams for a 2nd rounder if I thought there was a chance in hell the Bucs could turn that pick into a good player, but they won't. They will draft another guy that will suck even worse. This franchise is a dumpster fire.
 

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oh by the way the last 2nd round pick the bucs made was Dexter Jackson who was so bad he got cut after 1 year. Needless to say I don't have much confidance that Tampa won't screw up the draft pick they got from Chicago. I realize its a differant front office but the new guys haven't exactly done many good things so far.
 

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He isnt a true pass rusher. He might be better suited in a 3-4 defense as a OLB. He just can do battle at the line with Olinemen twice his size.
 

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Wow....Bears got owned again.

Not picking until the 3rd round in '10 now? Are they trying to become the Redskins?

What do you mean again? You gotta be nuts if you think the Bears regret the Cutler/Orton trade.

Looks like a great trade to me. Tampa already paid the shitload portion of Gaines' contract. He's due $900K this year, and about 1.1 mil in each of the next three seasons. If they can develop him like they think they can it will be a bargain. Much better chance they can turn him into a strong contributor for the next three years than some late 2nd rounder next year, and with that salary the cost would be similar. Looks like a great trade for the Bears. Trading into strength too, Bears biggest defensive need is in the secondary.
 

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You guys are nuts if you think this was a bad trade for Bears. Tampa already gave Gaines almost 40 million bucks. Now the Bears get him for the next 3.5 years for a total of like 4 million bucks. He's been inconsistent and obviously didn't quite fit in, but this is not a total bust, he's had his moments also. In the right situation, he still has a very high upside. Bears scheme may suit him just right. Bears needed some competition because they probably figured they are not going to pony up for Ogunlye and Anderson. Adams is better and cheaper and more ready than whatever they were going to get with a late second rounder. Bears robbed the Bucs.
 

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You guys are nuts if you think this was a bad trade for Bears. Tampa already gave Gaines almost 40 million bucks. Now the Bears get him for the next 3.5 years for a total of like 4 million bucks. He's been inconsistent and obviously didn't quite fit in, but this is not a total bust, he's had his moments also. In the right situation, he still has a very high upside. Bears scheme may suit him just right. Bears needed some competition because they probably figured they are not going to pony up for Ogunlye and Anderson. Adams is better and cheaper and more ready than whatever they were going to get with a late second rounder. Bears robbed the Bucs.

Even though Marinelli wasn't in TB when they drafted Adams, they drafted him to play his system in TB. He could fit in nice at a low price in Chicago.
 

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You guys are nuts if you think this was a bad trade for Bears. Tampa already gave Gaines almost 40 million bucks. Now the Bears get him for the next 3.5 years for a total of like 4 million bucks. He's been inconsistent and obviously didn't quite fit in, but this is not a total bust, he's had his moments also. In the right situation, he still has a very high upside. Bears scheme may suit him just right. Bears needed some competition because they probably figured they are not going to pony up for Ogunlye and Anderson. Adams is better and cheaper and more ready than whatever they were going to get with a late second rounder. Bears robbed the Bucs.

You are spot on with this. What people don't realize is that Tampa allready paid a huge part of Adams' rookie contract, plus his signing bonues which I think was something like 13 to 15 million. The Bears are paying him less than 1 million for this year and just over 4 mil for the remaining 4 years of his contract. Also by trading a player Tampa now has to take a 15 million dollar cap hit. So in summary Tampa could have kept a servicable guy that still has upside for basically nothing, but insted they trade him away to Chicago who now has him under contract for the next 4 years for about 4 million total. People think it was good for tampa cause he is high priced and hasn't yet panned out. What People don't realize is that he WAS high priced but they already paid him that money and he is NOT high priced for the next 4 years. So bascially Adams was overpaid for the previous 2 years and could very well be underpaid for the next 4.
 

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Tampa isn't worried about the money they already gave Adams, they are looking to rebuild & obviously the more draft choices they attain, the better their chance of succeeding...
 

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Tampa isn't worried about the money they already gave Adams, they are looking to rebuild & obviously the more draft choices they attain, the better their chance of succeeding...

O.K. that's fine if thats how you want to build your franchise. I don't agree but if thats what they want to do then ok. But then let me ask you this, why did they already trade two draft picks for Winslow? One of which will be a way higher pick than the one they just got from the Bears. All I'm saying is pick a direction and go with it. If you want to aquire draft picks then do it. But don't try and do it with some players and then give away picks for other players and sign 29 year old RB's. right off IMO Tampa doesn't need to rebuild. I'm sick of everybody saying that. They have one of the better O-lines in football. A good running game. A stud line backer. They have more talant on that team than alot of other NFL teams.
 

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I had to laugh at that one. Wouldn't say Marinelli is a good judge of DL talent, or a good coach for that matter. All you have to do is look at is track record in Detroit. He ran their only good DL in Shaun Rogers out of towns, drafting stiffs and bringing in Tampa rejects. Detroit had to be bottom of the league in sacks while this guy was there.

Yes, he had success in Tampa, but who wouldn't have with guys like Sapp and Simeon Rice?

As for Gaines, I always thought that he had bust written all over him.

actually rod marinelli is one of the best d line coaches in the game. Wasnt a great head coach, but in detriot really who is? he is a damn good defensive coach.
 

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