Will Drew Brees Make The NFL Hall Of Fame?

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If he continues this pace, can he really be denied a place in the hall even if he doesn't win a ring?






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class=yspscores>18.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>9.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD class=yspscores>12</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 height=16 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> 2002-03</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>San Diego</TD><TD class=yspscores>16</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>76.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>320</TD><TD class=yspscores>526</TD><TD class=yspscores>60.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>3284</TD><TD class=yspscores>205.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>17</TD><TD class=yspscores>16</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>38</TD><TD class=yspscores>130</TD><TD class=yspscores>8.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>24</TD><TD class=yspscores>180</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 height=16 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> 2003-04</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>San Diego</TD><TD class=yspscores>11</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>67.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>205</TD><TD class=yspscores>356</TD><TD class=yspscores>57.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>2108</TD><TD class=yspscores>191.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>11</TD><TD class=yspscores>15</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>21</TD><TD class=yspscores>84</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>4.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>21</TD><TD class=yspscores>178</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>5</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 height=16 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> 2004-05</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>San Diego</TD><TD class=yspscores>15</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>104.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>262</TD><TD class=yspscores>400</TD><TD class=yspscores>65.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>3159</TD><TD class=yspscores>210.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>27</TD><TD class=yspscores>7</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>53</TD><TD class=yspscores>85</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>1.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>18</TD><TD class=yspscores>131</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>7</TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 height=16 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> 2005-06</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>San Diego</TD><TD class=yspscores>16</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>89.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>323</TD><TD class=yspscores>500</TD><TD class=yspscores>64.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>3576</TD><TD class=yspscores>223.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>24</TD><TD class=yspscores>15</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>21</TD><TD class=yspscores>49</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>27</TD><TD class=yspscores>223</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>8</TD><TD class=yspscores>5</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 height=16 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> 2006-07</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>New Orleans</TD><TD class=yspscores>16</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>96.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>356</TD><TD class=yspscores>554</TD><TD class=yspscores>64.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>4418</TD><TD class=yspscores>276.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>8.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>26</TD><TD class=yspscores>11</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>42</TD><TD class=yspscores>32</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>18</TD><TD class=yspscores>105</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>7</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 height=16 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> 2007-08</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>New Orleans</TD><TD class=yspscores>16</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>89.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>440</TD><TD class=yspscores>652</TD><TD class=yspscores>67.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>4423</TD><TD class=yspscores>276.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>28</TD><TD class=yspscores>18</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>23</TD><TD class=yspscores>52</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>2.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>16</TD><TD class=yspscores>109</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>9</TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 height=16 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left> 2008-09</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left>New Orleans</TD><TD class=yspscores>16</TD><TD> </TD><TD class=yspscores>96.2</TD><TD class=yspscores>413</TD><TD class=yspscores>635</TD><TD class=yspscores>65.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>5069</TD><TD class=yspscores>316.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>8.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>34</TD><TD class=yspscores>17</TD><TD> </TD><TD 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he will make and they will win a superbowl in the next few years. they finally have a solid/explosive running game to match the 4+ options they have at wr and tightend. the defense has been improved this yr as well.
 

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his numbers are there but unfortunately i think he will be overlooked without a superbowl win or at least an appearance
 

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Drew is with some guys he is clicking with and has been with for awhile. I think most NFL qbs get too much credit.
 

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My Sportsman: Drew Brees

Posted: Monday November 23, 2009 9:15AM;


My Sportsman: Drew Brees

By Peter King
Sports Illustrated will announce its choice for Sportsman of the Year on Dec. 1. Here's one of the nominations for that honor by an SI writer.
A lot of people I cover do very good things for charity. It's always dangerous to say that, among 1,800 NFL players, one man stands above all. So I won't do that with Drew Brees when I make his case for Sportsman of the Year. The award, as you know, is a combo platter of on- and off-field achievement. Brees does not have a Super Bowl ring to his name, but he is the most productive passer in the NFL, statistically, since coming to New Orleans in free agency in 2006. But that's not why I'm saying he deserves to be Sportsman of the Year. I'm saying it because no athlete in any sport has meant more to his community in the last five years than Drew Brees has meant to New Orleans.
Let's go back to April 2006. New Orleans lay in near-ruins from Hurricane Katrina. I went to New Orleans to cover the first NFL draft since Katrina in New Orleans (and, I feared, maybe the last), and all over town I met people petrified that the team would leave town for a richer market not ravaged by natural disaster -- San Antonio, maybe, or Los Angeles. New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin told me that he hoped the Saints would stay at least till the city got back on its feet. "At least for one year,'' he said, with more than a hint of pleading in his voice.
You had to see this place eight months after Katrina. Hundreds of abandoned cars on the sides of roads. Thousands of homes in ruins. More businesses shuttered than open; many more. The mayor, the townspeople, worried players and team executives... all with no idea how much longer they could hang on to the Saints. In 2006 a burst of civic pride sold out the Superdome, but everyone knew that wouldn't last unless the moribund team won.
Brees, signed to a six-year contract in free agency, saw to that, leading the Saints to the NFC South title and finishing second in the league in MVP voting. He moved to the uptown section of the city -- very few Saints live in the city proper -- and walked his dog in Audubon Park. "I hope I can do my little part to show people New Orleans will definitely come back,'' he told me late that season as we walked through the park.
His Brees Dream Foundation raised $1.8 million in cash over the past four years, with matching funds totaling another $3.6 million. The Foundation used events like a huge concert honoring local legend Fats Domino last May to raise money to build two FieldTurf ballfields at city schools that had fields destroyed by Katrina. He's in the process of moving full-time to New Orleans from his home in San Diego, because he says he'll be able to do more good if he's in the city year-round. He does all the stuff that quarterbacks have to do and then some. When a local teacher told Saints PR man Greg Bensel that it might be nice if Brees could sign something for a 5-year-old student with cancer, Brees said, "Give me his number. I'll call him and his parents.''
Last April, with the local economy still down in the dumps, the Saints and state politicians agreed to a deal extending the team's lease in the Superdome through 2025. "Drew's a huge reason why,'' said coach Sean Payton. The team was 35-45 in the five years before Brees arrived. They're 36-22 since he signed. No one knows for sure, but if Brees hadn't come and been the cornerstone of their revival, it's not a stretch to think that this team could be the San Antonio Saints right now.
Building playgrounds, being a great quarterback, saving franchises. That's why Brees is my 2009 Sportsman of the Year.



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/magazine/specials/sportsman/2009/11/19/king.sportsman/##ixzz0XiFMlONJ
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Not a chance, one playoff win up to now. Enough said.

The "stats mean nothing" applies to everyone else, why not him?
 

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Brees does what no QB has done in 214 games


<!-- begin blogger thumbs --><!----><!-- end blogger thumbs -->Saints quarterback Drew Brees managed what no quarterback has in 214 games against the Redskins: He threw for 400 yards.
It wasn't a day the Washington defense will remember fondly. For a third straight week, the Redskins offense built a fourth quarter lead and its defense relinquished it.
"We have to finish the football game," said linebacker London Fletcher. "We have to close out the game. We did a lot of things to put ourselves in position to win that game, and we came up short."
The Redskins are just the latest team to struggle against New Orleans' prolific offense. The Saints entered Sunday's game with the top-ranked offense in the league, averaging 425.9 yards and 37 points per game. But Washington boasted the NFL's seventh-ranked defense. Something had to give.
The Redskins' allowed a season-high 463 yards of offense, including 282 in the second half and overtime period. Entering the game, the most yards Washington had allowed this season was 381.
The team's pass defense, which had been ranked No. 1 in the league the past several weeks, was also picked apart. The Redskins had allowed no passer to throw for more than 260 yards this season. Brees finished with 419.
Brees became the first passer to throw for more than 400 yards against Washington since Boomer Esiason had 522 in 1996. His total is the sixth-most any opposing quarterback has ever posted, ranking him behind Esiason, Tommy Kramer (490 in 1986), Neil Lomax (468 in 1984), Randall Cunningham (447 in 1989) and Joe Montana (441 in 1986).
The Redskins were short-handed in the secondary. Cornerbacks DeAngelo Hall and Justin Tryon were both inactive because of injuries. Byron Westbrook got his first career start and rookie Kevin Barnes played for just the second time in his career.
<SCRIPT>var entrycat = ''</SCRIPT>By Rick Maese | December 6, 2009; 8:06 PM ET
 

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Friday, January 15, 2010
Time for Brees to write his own legacy

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A few postseason wins would really cement the legacy of Saints quarterback Drew Brees.
NEW ORLEANS -- The talent, the gaudy numbers and even the name have made it so you no longer have to argue that Drew Brees is an elite quarterback.

You can throw his name in any sentence that involves Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre and Kurt Warner. In this, his fourth season as quarterback of the New Orleans Saints, Brees’ stock only continued to soar as he led his team to a franchise-record 13 wins. He belongs in any argument about the league’s best quarterbacks.

But how do you stop the qualifiers like, “Yeah, he’s as good as those guys, but what’s he ever won?’’ Or how do you stop the perceived snubs when Manning, who had basically the same numbers, goes out and wins the Most Valuable Player Award in a landslide over Brees?

It’s real simple. Brees needs to win big games. We’re talking big games like Saturday’s divisional playoff against Arizona and Warner, who has been one of the best postseason quarterbacks in history. We’re talking big games like the NFC Championship Game and the Super Bowl.

Even Brees admits he sees similarities and one big difference between himself and Warner.


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<CITE>Scott Halleran/Getty Images</CITE>Brees is looking for his second postseason win with the Saints.


“A Super Bowl ring and a lot of experience and a lot of years in the league,’’ Brees said.

Ah, the Super Bowl ring. It’s what Warner, Brady, Favre and Manning have. It’s what Brees lacks.

We’ll deal more with that in a few weeks if Brees and the Saints can get to Miami. But for that to happen and for Brees to truly get the respect he deserves, he’s got to win a couple of big games in the meantime or else the qualifiers and the snubs will just keep coming.

You can make the case that Brady, Manning, Warner and Favre have been in the right places at the right times, surrounded by great teams that helped them earn their rings. You can also point to Brees’ career record (55-51 before this season) and say he’s put up huge stats, but never has won much of anything.

That’s all true and it’s not really Brees’ fault. After leading the Saints to the NFC Championship game in his first season (2006) in New Orleans, Brees’ has been dragged down by problems on defense and injuries on offense as the Saints turned in two very mediocre seasons.

The perception, at least, has started to change this year. Brees has won some big games. He beat the Jets when they were undefeated. He beat the Giants when they were undefeated. And he beat New England (and Brady) in a Monday night game that was as hyped as any contest this season.

Has Brees suddenly become a better quarterback?

“He has three more years in the offense and I think our rushing attack is better than it was in ’06, which is conducive to getting good quarterback play,’’ coach Sean Payton said. “He’s someone that does a great job with his own expectation level. He’s his own hardest critic and in each offseason leading into the following year he does a great job of looking closely at things he can do better. When you look at the type of season that he has had -- not just statistically -- but the job description for that position is to win and he has been able to do that. And then when you look at his efficiency with throws underneath, his throws down the field, the touchdowns-to-interceptions; all those things he has been consistently better at and it starts with where he sets his sights and how high his standards are.”

I’m not going to disagree with Payton when it comes to assessing quarterback play. But I think Brees has been very good the whole time he’s been with the Saints. He’s the perfect quarterback for Payton’s system and there are times when he plays with a precision that you just don’t see from other quarterbacks, except for Manning on his best days.

What’s changed is that Brees now has a better team around him. The Saints have balance in the running game, a good tight end in Jeremy Shockey and four receivers that are also good, but Brees makes them look even better than they are. He also now has a defense -- at least in theory. After adding coordinator Gregg Williams and a whole bunch of new personnel in the offseason, the Saints stopped being horrible on defense. They came out early in the season and actually were pretty decent.

The defense tailed off in the second half of the season, but that was mainly because of injuries. Most of those injured guys are back now and the Saints are at least capable of doing some things on defense to slow Warner and the high-flying Cardinals.

That’s given Brees added confidence, not that he’s ever been a guy who has lacked confidence.

“I know what we’re capable of,’’ Brees said. “I know if you look at our track record and consistently you don’t have one of the top three or four offenses… Three of the last four years we’ve had the number one offense in the league. That’s a body of work. That’s not just a stretch of games here, a stretch of games there. That’s a body of work. We know how to play at a high level offensively.’’

There’s no doubt Brees and the New Orleans offense can play at a high level. The Saints have done that pretty much throughout Brees’ time in New Orleans.

But, now, they have to take it to the next level. More precisely, to truly get to the next level, Brees needs to win this game. And maybe the next two.

It’s nice to go out and put up huge numbers and it’s very nice to win 13 games. But losing the first playoff game would be a huge disappointment for Brees, the Saints and their fans. They’ve come to expect more this season.

The days of getting all you can out of Brees and putting blame everywhere else when the Saints lose need to stop. Maybe the Saints need to be better than ever. Or maybe, good as he is, Brees needs to be even better in these situations and totally carry his team.

If he does that for a few weeks, the days of his legacy coming with disclaimers and his name not being engraved on MVP trophies finally will come to an end.
 

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I dont wanna start a huge argument or anything, but I was always a little skeptical this dude did some type of performence enhancers. Not saying im sure of it or anything, just a little fishy.

I know QB isnt a position where you can take steroids, hormones, or anything else and that makes you good like a HR hitter. However, it just seems to me he got bigger and stronger and can throw the ball a lot harder and further now than he had been able to early in his career. Its just weird how much better he got so fast after being injured. Just weird thats all.
 

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Let him write his entire story first. At 31 he can get 4 or 5 more good years as a starter under his belt and then take a look at his numbers etc.


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