I will have to say....Cliff Lee was Light's Out Last night !

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The guy is a Different Pitcher since joining the Phillies.
Not that he didn't have good stuff when he was with Cleveland.
 

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Cliff Lee is who we thought he was, and im not saying this in a dick way. The truth is last year he won the Cy Young Award. I have followed this guy for years (That's what happens when you bet everyday, you tend to know every player on every team). When you take a Cy Young winner off of a team that is 30 games under 500. They pitch with even more fire then they did before because now they know they are really playing for something and not just playing to stay out of last place. Cliff Lee is a pro's pro, and the way he carried himself last night was simply amazing. He made it look so easy. Unreal that he went off at +160 last night.
 

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3-0 with a 0.54 ERA in four postseason starts. @ +163 I took the money an ran
 
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I didn't Bet the Side, only the Total & 1st inning ( No score )
It was a good Payday ! :103631605
 

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3-0 with a 0.54 ERA in four postseason starts. @ +163 I took the money an ran

Unbelievable and how about Chase Utley being overlooked in all of this. Only the second left handed hitter to hit two HR's off of a left handed pitcher in a World Series game. The other player who did it....The Babe.
 

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Cliff Lee is who we thought he was, and im not saying this in a dick way. The truth is last year he won the Cy Young Award. I have followed this guy for years (That's what happens when you bet everyday, you tend to know every player on every team). When you take a Cy Young winner off of a team that is 30 games under 500. They pitch with even more fire then they did before because now they know they are really playing for something and not just playing to stay out of last place. Cliff Lee is a pro's pro, and the way he carried himself last night was simply amazing. He made it look so easy. Unreal that he went off at +160 last night.



That may have been one of the easiest bets I have ever made. Not that it was easy for the win or anything, but at that price it was a no brainer.
 

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That may have been one of the easiest bets I have ever made. Not that it was easy for the win or anything, but at that price it was a no brainer.

Exactly. If you bet baseball on a daily basis and you did not see value in Cliff Lee at +160 then you should probably stop betting on bases.
 

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Exactly. If you bet baseball on a daily basis and you did not see value in Cliff Lee at +160 then you should probably stop betting on bases.

I didn't bet the game, but what do you think the price should have been? Very easy to say after the fact it was a bad number... but the bottomline is CC was just as good this year and through the playoffs (up until last night) and the Yanks were at home. Price seemed about right to me.
 

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I didn't bet the game, but what do you think the price should have been? Very easy to say after the fact it was a bad number... but the bottomline is CC was just as good this year and through the playoffs (up until last night) and the Yanks were at home. Price seemed about right to me.

After the fact? I have been on here since the line came out in other threads preaching about the value in Cliff Lee at +160. Lee was the better pitcher in the post-season going into last nights game, and the Phillies have a history of beating CC in the post-season. On top of that Lee already beat the Yankees with Sabathia on the mound with the Indians earlier in the season in New York. I personally thought the price should have been Sabathia -130 Lee +115. The reason the line wasn't what I just suggested it should have been is because people bet the Yankees no matter what the line is because they are the Yankees. The Phillies are the defending World Champions, not a team who went on a one year run to make it to the World Series (Like the Rays last year).
 

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Funny--Phils should thank JP Riccardi or that would have been Doc Halliday last night

The Phillies would never of given the Jays what they wanted. They were asking for the core players of the team for the next 10 years. Taylor who hit 30 plus homers in the minors and Drabek who could possibly be in the rotation next year. Ruben Amaro knew what he was doing. The Phillies got a killer deal with the Indians. Not only did they get Lee, but they got Francisco, a right handed bat off the bench who can play defense in the late innings, something they desperately needed.
 

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