N.D Fans...Does this lose show Charlie the Door!

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I would think he was on thin ice with the Boosters anyway..And now to Lose at HOME to Navy....Charlie do not let the door hit you on the ass on your way out!
 

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He's gone, but honestly I don't know which direction they are going to go in. Your not going to get better recruits then Weis has been getting, but you need someone who can actually coach those recruits. I would take a look at Al Golden from Temple. That man knows how to coach. Along with Brian Kelly. As a Notre Dame fan I want no parts of Skip Holtz.
 

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ikm sure turner gill and charlie strong will get token consideration. brian kelly would be the best hire i think..or urban meyer:)
 

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if it doesn't show him the door, they dam sure are printing out the mapquest directions
 

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ikm sure turner gill and charlie strong will get token consideration. brian kelly would be the best hire i think..or urban meyer:)

Turner Gil and Charlie Strong have a 0% chance of getting the Notre Dame job. Urban Meyer has said it time and time again he will never leave Florida for Notre Dame.
 

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Turner Gil and Charlie Strong have a 0% chance of getting the Notre Dame job. Urban Meyer has said it time and time again he will never leave Florida for Notre Dame.


dont think you understand what token consideration mean. and they don t call him urban liar for no reason. i doubt he goes there but it will be discussed and the pressure will get intense on the ND AD to get his attention and he will

id bet on jon gruden
 

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When a student volunteer from the Notre Dame alumni office called me the other night, I told her if they lose to Navy this weekend, that my annual contribution was conditional: they fire Charlie Weis or no $$$.

He has done a great job recruiting the last couple of years, but is lacking something....well, actually a couple of things, such as discipline, a defense, ability to win big games, etc.

I am sure I am not the only one who has told them this and there are many more alumni that donate A LOT more than I do.
 

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I think Charlie is gone. He's simply not meeting expectations.
 

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found this: http://www.utefans.net/lies.php

and after reading all this id be shocked if Notre Dame even talked to Meyer - if they fired Oleary for his so called character issues, they shouldnt bother contacting Urban Meyer

"This is a long term process (building a football program). I always say there are only about eight or 10 really good football programs where year in and year out they win."
Source: Urban Meyer Press Conference, November 13, 2002


"We are nowhere near what we can do here. That's what's driving me right now. Everybody's worried about those other places; nothing's going on."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002


"I was contacted by one, but I'm not interested. I love it here. We have a lot of work to do. That's the bottom line."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002


"With recruits, that's been for two years, even before we won. [They say,] 'that guy's not going to be there very long'; that's silly ... The future is fantastic here ... I'm proud to be the football coach here. Once they get to know me, know my family, know how important it is to have continuity, my kids going to school somewhere."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002


"I think you all but guarantee that you are one of the top two, three teams in the league every year if you get that [new athletic facility] here. I feel so strong about the academics, about the community, the environment, about the people. It's the last piece; it's a significant piece."
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002


"In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: 'I thought we were your family.' Bowling Green's players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts."
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2002


"Notre Dame is my dream job."
Source: Memory, January 1, 2003

"It [leaving Bowling Green] was one of the hardest things I've ever done. It was devastating. I didn't realize — and maybe I wasn't thinking clearly — but I thought it was going to be one of those things where you shake hands, give a big hug and say 'good luck.'"
Source: Deseret News, October 5, 2004


"First of all, I love it here. But I'm second fiddle. My family is No. 1, and they love it here. As long as we're filling the stadium, as long as we're continuing to grow as a program and as long as I feel these student-athletes are getting the best opportunity to be a top 25 program — which I think it is — I'm going to be the coach here."
Source: Deseret News, October 30, 2004


"I plan on coaching here for a long time."
Source: Deseret News, November 15, 2004


"Meyer told the New York Times last week, 'I'm chicken. It would be excruciating to leave. When I left Bowling Green, it was the worst three months.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004


"Wrote Mike Sorenson, 'It's been well-documented that Meyer's wife, Shelley, was a big factor in Meyer taking the Utah job. She wanted to move back to the West because she enjoyed the family's time in Colorado when he was an assistant at Colorado State. Shelley and the kids seem to love the outdoor lifestyle, and she has told friends and neighbors that they aren't going anywhere.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004


"Mike Sorenson wrote, 'Some folks may question his loyalty because he left Bowling Green after just two years. But Meyer has said, the six months after that was one of the hardest times of his life, because he felt so bad for leaving. Does he really want to go through that again just two years later?' [um, yes.]"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004


"I plan on coaching at Utah next year. There's been no contact made. Period. It's almost comical. We're playing the biggest game in the history of the school and we're talking about that. That's nothing to do with nothing. [Shelley Meyer served her employer 2-weeks notice the next day.]"
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004


"Wrote Antony A Engligh, "Shelley will be heavily involved in Meyer's next move. 'She's a coach's wife, that's what she does for a living,' Bud Meyer said. 'It's a big job. It's a job that she (wants) to be informed, but she does a very good job.'""
Source: St. Petersburg Times, November 17, 2004


"There's been no contact and I really don't anticipate any. I'm certainly not looking for a job. I love where I'm coaching."
Source: Deseret News, November 18, 2004


"When asked by a young boy if he was going to be the coach next year, Urban replied very directly, 'I plan on being the coach at the University of Utah next year.'"
Source: Urban Meyer Coach's Show, November 18, 2004


"As long as I'm married, I'll be the coach at Utah. [exact date unknown, source is a local sports show]"
Source: Memory, November 20, 2004


"Though Meyer is frequently mentioned as a candidate for more lucurative coaching jobs, he denies any contact has been made. 'I'm not out looking, so if someone's waiting for me to pick up the phone it's not going to happen,' said Meyer. And there's little chance of that over the next four days. Meyer plans to turn his telephone off over the holiday break while he spends lost time with his family. He isn't expecting a lot of calls, anyhow. Word is out that he loves Utah, Meyer explained, and schools are funny about that. Despite speculation to the contrary, including a Florida fan-based Web site that reported a deal with Meyer has already been reached, the coach insists he represents himself. And that no talks have taken place. 'I don't have an agent. People are trying to get me to have one, but I'm just not comfortable with that kind of stuff,' said Meyer. 'I'm coaching my team and taking care of my family.'"
Source: Deseret News, November 24, 2004


"[When asked about Florida:] No. I have no real comment. All I keep saying is I plan on being the coach here at Utah."
Source: Deseret News, November 30, 2004


" It's not about prestige and it's certainly not about money. In today's climate, you don't have time to build a program. Too many coaches are let go before they can build a program."
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004


"I'm going to a place where I think we can really win, because no good can come of losing. Losing is never good."
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004


"I'm the head coach at Utah. If for some reason I'm not, I still anticipate coaching in the bowl game."
Source: Deseret News, December 3, 2004


"This was a family decision. University of Florida has been in the mix since the day, uh [pause] after our rival game. ... There was no intention to hurt a great university [Notre Dame], including this university [Utah the afterthought]."
Source: ESPN SportsCenter, December 4, 2004


"Recruiting at Utah doesn't start 'till January. That's when these kids that wanted to go to USC and UCLA find out they won't be and then the Utes get them."
Source: Press Conference, December 4, 2004


"I didn't want to put Utah into disarray. I had to do this now to protect Utah."
Source: KUTV News, December 4, 2004


"I am certainly excited about the opportunity to be the head coach at the University of Florida. There were a lot of factors that went into this decision that our entire family had to consider. The opportunity to compete at the highest level at one of the nation’s most-respected academic institutions is something that was attractive for us."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004


"The quality of recruits within the state of Florida and the Southeast Region offers a tremendous recruiting base for us."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004


"There's no such thing as luck, there's a big word called investment. If there was luck, why work as hard as we do. I've never been involved in a game where the most invested team lost."
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004


"[Referring to Florida:] This is a place you can put your feet down hopefully for a long time."
Source: ESPN, December 7, 2004


"I have no aspirations to coach in the NFL None whatsoever. It's all about the pageantry and tradition of college football, which in my opinion is second to none."
Source: ESPN, December 7, 2004


"This is a place you can put your feet down for a long time. It's over [moving every 2 years]. I'm not doing this again."
Source: GatorSports.com, December 8, 2004


"If he goes to the NFL, you can call me a liar," his wife, Shelley, said. "That's not happening."
Source: GatorSports.com, December 8, 2004


"In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: 'I thought we were your family.' Bowling Green's players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts."
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2004
 

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Yeah Urban is an asshole (even when he coached at ND as a WR coach for Holtz) and a liar, but he wins championships. I would take him, but I doubt AD Swarbrick will. I think Brian Kelly is the next best option. If we are going to fire Weis, we need to get someone who has proven they can bee a college head coach.

I truly wanted Weis to succeed. He is a great individual, loves Notre Dame, and has all the best intentions for the university but he just can't keep losing to these teams with inferior talent. However, I blame yesterday's loss on DC Tenuta. Not sure why Weis is going to allow himself to get fired because of Tenuta's irrational loyalty to Harrison and Brian Smith (among other defensive players). Weis needs to do what Holtz did and take over the defense if he wants to stay around. This shit can't continue.

To answer the question -- if he wins out, he stays. A close loss to Pitt and he is on the bubble. Two more losses and he is gone.
 

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Yeah Urban is an asshole (even when he coached at ND as a WR coach for Holtz) and a liar, but he wins championships. I would take him, but I doubt AD Swarbrick will. I think Brian Kelly is the next best option. If we are going to fire Weis, we need to get someone who has proven they can bee a college head coach.

I truly wanted Weis to succeed. He is a great individual, loves Notre Dame, and has all the best intentions for the university but he just can't keep losing to these teams with inferior talent. However, I blame yesterday's loss on DC Tenuta. Not sure why Weis is going to allow himself to get fired because of Tenuta's irrational loyalty to Harrison and Brian Smith (among other defensive players). Weis needs to do what Holtz did and take over the defense if he wants to stay around. This shit can't continue.

To answer the question -- if he wins out, he stays. A close loss to Pitt and he is on the bubble. Two more losses and he is gone.

There is a 0% chance of Urban Meyer going to South Bend. Weis is gone even if he wins out. I watched the Washington game with a huge booster and he told me if Weis lost one more game he was a goner. So im going to go by what he said because he definitely knows more then I do. I want Brian Kelly in the worst way. Like you I love Weis as a person, but he is just not getting the job done. Enough is enough its time to move on. The funny thing is we are sitting here talking about Brian Kelly when he has his team undefeated and might not even jump at the opportunity to take the Notre Dame job. Especially if he goes on and wins a BCS game or gets to the National Championship. He has a nice thing going in Cincy.

If I were Notre Dame I would take a long hard look at Al Golden. The guy is one hell of a coach. Other then that what other direction can you go in? John Gruden? Im not sure I want to go ex NFL coach route. Plus im not sure how good Gruden would do without Kiffin as his D-coordinator.
 

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One more thing I would like to add is that Charlie Weis is the 2nd highest paid coach in all of college football making 4.2 million. Pete Carrol who is the highest paid makes 4.4 million. A 35-24 record just doesn't cut it.
 

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ND could have USC's recruits and will underachieve with Charlie there. The buck stops here. Ty was fired and achieved more. Charile is 3-16 vs teams with winning records. I'm not sure who they will beat out of @ Pitt, UCONN and @Stanford.
 

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I don't know if he would ever leave Northwestern, but a great coach would be Pat Fitzgerald.
 

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Gruden would be a good choice. He is great on MNF but he is way too passionate about the game to stay out of coaching. With Gruden, ND's recruiting would remain strong.
 

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Gruden would be a good choice. He is great on MNF but he is way too passionate about the game to stay out of coaching. With Gruden, ND's recruiting would remain strong.

Gruden wants to coach in the NFL. I think he would take the Redskins job before he would take the Notre Dame job.
 

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IMO Pat Fitzgerald won't even be considered for the Notre Dame job.

And that would be a major problem. ND is too worried about style points. Skip Holtz would be another interesting candidate.
 

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And that would be a major problem. ND is too worried about style points. Skip Holtz would be another interesting candidate.

Skip will be mentioned but I really hope he doesn't get the job. From what I have been reading he will be taking the Virginia job after this season. Why do you think not looking at Pat Fitzgerald would be a major problem? I would rather keep Weis then go after Fitzgerald. On top of that Fitzgerald is coaching at the school he attended he's not going anywhere.
 

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