Hello. I just wanted to get peoples thoughts on this. If I remember correctly H.R. 2267 the Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, & Enforcement Act of 2009 that will be proposed will officially make online sports betting illegal in the US. I think that is what I read. I'll see if I can find a link or reference somewhere. In the mean time anyone who knows more than myself (which isn't much) please feel free to comment. Thanks
The only statements I can find in the text is the following:
LICENSING REQUIRED FOR CERTAIN INTERNET GAMBLING- No person may operate an Internet gambling facility that knowingly accepts bets or wagers from persons located in the United States without a license issued by the Secretary in accordance with this subchapter.
and
No provision of this subchapter shall be construed as authorizing any licensee to operate an Internet gambling facility that knowingly accepts bets or wagers on sporting events from persons located in the United States in violation of section 3702 of title 28, United States Code, except for fantasy or simulation sports games (as defined in section 5362 of this title).
LICENSING REQUIRED FOR CERTAIN INTERNET GAMBLING- No person may operate an Internet gambling facility that knowingly accepts bets or wagers from persons located in the United States without a license issued by the Secretary in accordance with this subchapter.
and
No provision of this subchapter shall be construed as authorizing any licensee to operate an Internet gambling facility that knowingly accepts bets or wagers on sporting events from persons located in the United States in violation of section 3702 of title 28, United States Code, except for fantasy or simulation sports games (as defined in section 5362 of this title).
this is the best site to find info on this stuff
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Law-Summary/
states where its specifically illegal if you buy into is
Express Internet Prohibition
Oregon
South dakota
Louisiana
Inidiana
Illinois
Wisonsin
Washington
they have specifically banned internet betting/gambling
http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Law-Summary/
states where its specifically illegal if you buy into is
Express Internet Prohibition
Oregon
South dakota
Louisiana
Inidiana
Illinois
Wisonsin
Washington
they have specifically banned internet betting/gambling
H.R.2267
Title: To amend title 31, United States Code, to provide for the licensing of Internet gambling activities by the Secretary of the Treasury, to provide for consumer protections on the Internet, to enforce the tax code, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] (introduced 5/6/2009) Cosponsors (62)
Latest Major Action: 6/12/2009 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
<HR>COSPONSORS(62), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 6/26/2009</TD><TD>Rep Ackerman, Gary L. [NY-5] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Adler, John H. [NJ-3] - 7/17/2009</TD><TD>Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 6/19/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Berkley, Shelley [NV-1] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Bishop, Timothy H. [NY-1] - 5/14/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Blumenauer, Earl [OR-3] - 6/26/2009</TD><TD>Rep Capuano, Michael E. [MA-8] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Carnahan, Russ [MO-3] - 7/31/2009</TD><TD>Rep Carson, Andre [IN-7] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 9/17/2009</TD><TD>Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 7/22/2009</TD><TD>Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 7/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Crowley, Joseph [NY-7] - 5/21/2009</TD><TD>Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Driehaus, Steve [OH-1] - 6/12/2009</TD><TD>Rep Filner, Bob [CA-51] - 5/21/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Foster, Bill [IL-14] - 6/26/2009</TD><TD>Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 6/12/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [IL-4] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 5/7/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Hodes, Paul W. [NH-2] - 7/7/2009</TD><TD>Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] - 6/19/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Israel, Steve [NY-2] - 6/12/2009</TD><TD>Rep King, Peter T. [NY-3] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Larson, John B. [CT-1] - 10/8/2009</TD><TD>Rep LoBiondo, Frank A. [NJ-2] - 7/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Maffei, Daniel B. [NY-25] - 7/28/2009</TD><TD>Rep Markey, Betsy [CO-4] - 7/31/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] - 6/4/2009</TD><TD>Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep McMahon, Michael E. [NY-13] - 5/21/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 5/14/2009</TD><TD>Rep Minnick, Walter [ID-1] - 7/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 6/4/2009</TD><TD>Rep Murphy, Christopher S. [CT-5] - 9/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] - 6/26/2009</TD><TD>Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] - 7/31/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7] - 6/19/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Perriello, Thomas S.P. [VA-5] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 6/12/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 6/4/2009</TD><TD>Rep Rodriguez, Ciro D. [TX-23] - 6/19/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Rothman, Steven R. [NJ-9] - 5/21/2009</TD><TD>Rep Ryan, Tim [OH-17] - 6/26/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Sablan, Gregorio [MP] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Sanchez, Linda T. [CA-39] - 7/21/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29] - 9/17/2009</TD><TD>Rep Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" [VA-3] - 5/14/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Smith, Adam [WA-9] - 10/1/2009</TD><TD>Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 10/1/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Thompson, Mike [CA-1] - 7/27/2009</TD><TD>Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 7/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Towns, Edolphus [NY-10] - 7/7/2009</TD><TD>Rep Watt, Melvin L. [NC-12] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 10/15/2009</TD><TD>Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 9/16/2009</TD><TD>Rep Young, Don [AK] - 6/23/2009</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Title: To amend title 31, United States Code, to provide for the licensing of Internet gambling activities by the Secretary of the Treasury, to provide for consumer protections on the Internet, to enforce the tax code, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] (introduced 5/6/2009) Cosponsors (62)
Latest Major Action: 6/12/2009 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
<HR>COSPONSORS(62), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 6/26/2009</TD><TD>Rep Ackerman, Gary L. [NY-5] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Adler, John H. [NJ-3] - 7/17/2009</TD><TD>Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 6/19/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Berkley, Shelley [NV-1] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Bishop, Timothy H. [NY-1] - 5/14/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Blumenauer, Earl [OR-3] - 6/26/2009</TD><TD>Rep Capuano, Michael E. [MA-8] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Carnahan, Russ [MO-3] - 7/31/2009</TD><TD>Rep Carson, Andre [IN-7] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 9/17/2009</TD><TD>Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 7/22/2009</TD><TD>Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 7/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Crowley, Joseph [NY-7] - 5/21/2009</TD><TD>Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Driehaus, Steve [OH-1] - 6/12/2009</TD><TD>Rep Filner, Bob [CA-51] - 5/21/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Foster, Bill [IL-14] - 6/26/2009</TD><TD>Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 6/12/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [IL-4] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 5/7/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Hodes, Paul W. [NH-2] - 7/7/2009</TD><TD>Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] - 6/19/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Israel, Steve [NY-2] - 6/12/2009</TD><TD>Rep King, Peter T. [NY-3] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Larson, John B. [CT-1] - 10/8/2009</TD><TD>Rep LoBiondo, Frank A. [NJ-2] - 7/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Maffei, Daniel B. [NY-25] - 7/28/2009</TD><TD>Rep Markey, Betsy [CO-4] - 7/31/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] - 6/4/2009</TD><TD>Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep McMahon, Michael E. [NY-13] - 5/21/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 5/14/2009</TD><TD>Rep Minnick, Walter [ID-1] - 7/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 6/4/2009</TD><TD>Rep Murphy, Christopher S. [CT-5] - 9/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] - 6/26/2009</TD><TD>Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] - 7/31/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7] - 6/19/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Perriello, Thomas S.P. [VA-5] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 6/12/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 6/4/2009</TD><TD>Rep Rodriguez, Ciro D. [TX-23] - 6/19/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Rothman, Steven R. [NJ-9] - 5/21/2009</TD><TD>Rep Ryan, Tim [OH-17] - 6/26/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Sablan, Gregorio [MP] - 5/6/2009</TD><TD>Rep Sanchez, Linda T. [CA-39] - 7/21/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29] - 9/17/2009</TD><TD>Rep Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" [VA-3] - 5/14/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Smith, Adam [WA-9] - 10/1/2009</TD><TD>Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 10/1/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Thompson, Mike [CA-1] - 7/27/2009</TD><TD>Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 7/17/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Towns, Edolphus [NY-10] - 7/7/2009</TD><TD>Rep Watt, Melvin L. [NC-12] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 10/15/2009</TD><TD>Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] - 5/6/2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 9/16/2009</TD><TD>Rep Young, Don [AK] - 6/23/2009</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
House Bill
H.R. 2267 the Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, & Enforcement Act of 2009 now has 62 cosponsors and is gaining more support each day. In related good news the Congressional Joint Tax Committee, which has the responsibility of assessing the revenue impact of all U.S. legislation, recently reported that licensing and regulation of Internet gaming would produce up to $41,000,000,000.00 (billion!) in revenue over 10 years. This is not a new tax on players, but revenue that could be generated through regulation of the online industry.
Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) is still committed to holding a hearing and a vote on this bill in his Financial Services Committee. Depending on the schedule this hearing could still happen in 2009.
If your Representative is not already a cosponsor of H.R. 2267 click here to urge their support today.
SHAKE IT BABY!:shaking:
H.R. 2267 the Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, & Enforcement Act of 2009 now has 62 cosponsors and is gaining more support each day. In related good news the Congressional Joint Tax Committee, which has the responsibility of assessing the revenue impact of all U.S. legislation, recently reported that licensing and regulation of Internet gaming would produce up to $41,000,000,000.00 (billion!) in revenue over 10 years. This is not a new tax on players, but revenue that could be generated through regulation of the online industry.
Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) is still committed to holding a hearing and a vote on this bill in his Financial Services Committee. Depending on the schedule this hearing could still happen in 2009.
If your Representative is not already a cosponsor of H.R. 2267 click here to urge their support today.
SHAKE IT BABY!:shaking:
There are 2 bills, HR 2267 and HR 2268.
The OP is correct, these bills will effectively make it illegal to bet on sports in the US (it is not illegal to bet on sports right now only to be a bookie).
It will also place a 50% tax on all deposits to "illegal online gambling businesses" like sportsbooks. So if you want to break the law and deposit anyway, then you have to pay 50% of your deposit to the IRS. If you don't pay the 50% then you are a tax evader and an illegal gambler, if you do pay it I guess the IRS reports you to the DOJ or whatever government agency will enforce these anti gambling laws.
THE ONLY FORMS OF GAMBLING THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS IS ONLINE POKER AND POSSIBLY ONLINE CASINO BETTING. Online sports bettors are through if this passes.
I thought this was pretty much a dead issue this year though?
BTW the link Dante provided does not really discuss legislation that is in the works like these lurking bills trying to screw us, but it is a good source for legislation already passed and state specific laws too.
The OP is correct, these bills will effectively make it illegal to bet on sports in the US (it is not illegal to bet on sports right now only to be a bookie).
It will also place a 50% tax on all deposits to "illegal online gambling businesses" like sportsbooks. So if you want to break the law and deposit anyway, then you have to pay 50% of your deposit to the IRS. If you don't pay the 50% then you are a tax evader and an illegal gambler, if you do pay it I guess the IRS reports you to the DOJ or whatever government agency will enforce these anti gambling laws.
THE ONLY FORMS OF GAMBLING THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS IS ONLINE POKER AND POSSIBLY ONLINE CASINO BETTING. Online sports bettors are through if this passes.
I thought this was pretty much a dead issue this year though?
BTW the link Dante provided does not really discuss legislation that is in the works like these lurking bills trying to screw us, but it is a good source for legislation already passed and state specific laws too.
Correct
Fellas, any and all of this is Much Ado About Nothing.
There's not a single way that the US federal government can effectively impede over 99.999% of internet wagering on sports.
Rock on and make sure to post your winning selections here at the Rx so others can benefit from your insight.
