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I find Sagarin ratings most useful for comparing Strength of Schedule and also comparing Results vs "Top 10" and "Top 30" (college sports) "Top 16" (pro sports), especially for teams in the middle tiers.

Often a team in a middle tier will have accrued their overall record by winning consistently against lower teams but really struggling against higher ranked teams.

And vice versa. Many teams in the middle seem to get it up and do reasonably well against higher ranked, but then play poorly against teams ranked lower. Their ".500" type record can be misleading.
 

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I know that 3 weeks ago they did very well if you used their ratings.
 

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Been using Sagarin for 30 years.
The Sagarin ratings have been around for over 80 years.
Nobody does it better.
 

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I never use only Sagarin ratings, but I never ignore them either. Like any rating system they're not perfect, but he does it better than about any other, and he's consistent.

Like barman, I find about the most use in comparing strength of schedule and the like.
 

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The Sagarin ratings have been around for over 80 years

Jeff is only like 60 years old

First saw them in USA Today when I was a teenager and thought they were pretty cool

Heard a few times how his rankings were better at predicting outcomes than the lines for both NFL and NCAA basketball tournament. Then I thought if it was true and continued to be true it would simply be built into the lines and wouldn't be much help -- haven't done as well since people discovered that

They are one of the best tools for analyzing the past. But when it comes to betting, that's the easy part
 

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