How can ingram win heisman

chrishansen · Dec 12, 2009

mcCoy wins

most outsatnding player award maxwell
player of year award walter camp
national qb award obrien
best sr qb award unitas

toby wins

best rb award doak walker

suh wins

best interior lineman outland
best lineman lombardi
def player year bronko
def player year bednarick

and this guy is to win the heisman

this award is a joke now and days

you cant win the best running back award yet win the heisman as a rb
not voted best player in nation yet win heisman

toby rushes wild every game and drops 26 tds, but stanford lost 4 games, so rush for 3,600 yards and play in the acc and score 46 tds but play on a 3-9 team and voters would have to takeaway what you did because your team sucks

toby
1740 yards 26 tds avg 144 12 games

ingram
1542 yards 15 tds avg 116 13 games

inram did rush for 246 vs the gamecocks, thats fkn insane
yet rushed for 57 91 51 34 vs fiu, n.texaas and arkansas and auburn

toby rushed for 181 vs usc def!!! and dropped 3tds on em
o and he ran for over 200 3 other times vs oregon wash and notre dame

last 4 games he scored
3 vs oregon
3 vs usc
4 vs cal
4 vs notre dame

not saying toby should win, but ingram shouldnt

gtc08 · Dec 12, 2009

stanford is irrelevant so that automatically disqualifies him in my opinion.

tebow was overrated this year, got in on his name.

mccoy didnt do much vs. nebraska in the biggest game, but id rate him over suh because they are in the champ game.

ingram stood out vs. florida, has the numbers, and is in the national championship game. dont care about the pre awards.

how id vote:

1. ingram
2. mccoy
3. suh
4. gerhart
5. tebow

HacheMan · Dec 12, 2009

Isn't it McCoy who they say put up horrific numbers against the only 2 top 40 defenses he faced all season?

gtc08 · Dec 12, 2009

Hache Man said:
Isn't it McCoy who they say put up horrific numbers against the only 2 top 40 defenses he faced all season?

yea but without him they arnt in the champ game. but him struggling vs. legit teams is why its a no brainer that ingram wins it.

the win vs. florida sealed ingram, and it helped that mccoy did nothing vs. nebraska.

steaktartar · Dec 12, 2009

ingram is -750 mccoy is +1500 as of now...thats how

djmatt · Dec 12, 2009

steak tartar said:
ingram is -750 mccoy is +1500 as of now...thats how

god I love it when you post with a nice lil buzz going

billhill999 · Dec 12, 2009

gtc08 said:
stanford is irrelevant so that automatically disqualifies him in my opinion.

Just because a team is irrelevant doesn't mean a player is.
In my opinion.

TomGshotput · Dec 12, 2009

billhill999 said:
Just because a team is irrelevant doesn't mean a player is.
In my opinion.

Best player really means good player with good teammates, according to gtc

steaktartar · Dec 12, 2009

djmatt said:
god I love it when you post with a nice lil buzz going

just quoting the market suh is the best player by 1000 miles

gtc08 · Dec 12, 2009

you have to accomplish something though. putting up numbers in meaningless games that get you to a mid tier bowl isnt heisman worthy

ingram did it when it counted, thats the difference.

toby did it when it didnt matter.

TomGshotput · Dec 12, 2009

The only thing you have to accomplish is to be the most outstanding college football player

Obviously each school plays against different levels of competition each year, but that doesn't mean the talent of the other 21 players on the field has anything to do with how good or bad that one candidate is

And to those players on the field, the games absolutely did matter. Stanford was not eliminated from a share of the Conference title until November 21

steaktartar · Dec 12, 2009

The only thing you have to accomplish is to be the most outstanding college football player
tom....... charlie ward won it for god sakes.........and i think gino torreta?......not sure.....it is not the best college football player....its who gets the most votes

terps1313 · Dec 12, 2009

Ingram will be the worst Heisman winner of all time

fivestarjake · Dec 12, 2009

terps1313 said:
Ingram will be the worst Heisman winner of all time

really???

guess you never seen danny "god awful" weurfful or
eric crouch,chris weinke,andre ware,jason white,rashann salaam,mike rozier or gino torretta(who by the way i believe was picked in the 7th round)

billhill999 · Dec 12, 2009

You left out Ron Dayne, and the biggest bust of them all Johnny Rodgers.

jeckll · Dec 12, 2009

Suh is the best player by far. Just wait till the draft!

NyMets609 · Dec 12, 2009

jeckll said:
Suh is the best player by far. Just wait till the draft!

what he said.

Legend-I-Aint · Dec 12, 2009

gtc08 said:
you have to accomplish something though. putting up numbers in meaningless games that get you to a mid tier bowl isnt heisman worthy

ingram did it when it counted, thats the difference.

toby did it when it didnt matter.

i know you know this but you are an ass, and a stupid one at that

toby did not put up his numbers in meaningless games

skoda · Dec 12, 2009

djmatt said:
god I love it when you post with a nice lil buzz going

what time is betting on this cut-off?

Results are in Friday?

Mark Ingram Sr. was a Super Bowl hero for the New York Giants, but last year he was sentenced to almost eight years in prison on bank-fraud and money-laundering charges. Then he did not show up at the federal prison in Kentucky to serve his sentence, which might cost him even more time.
The elder Ingram was found hiding out in a Michigan hotel the same day his son played Utah in the Sugar Bowl last season.
He has been serving his time in a New York City holding facility, where he’s better able to watch his son’s games on TV.
“My father has been a great influence on my life and I love him to death,” Ingram said on the podium

Kornholio · Dec 12, 2009

you guys must not have seen gerheart play much. He got effed in the butt.

talk about domination, this guy is the best back I've ever seen at the college level.

best player in college football no doubt but hey, he plays at stanford so no chance.

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