Cop Pulls Out Gun During D.C. Snowball

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D.C. snowball fight 'fun and games' until gun appears

The call went out on a Web site and over Twitter, and hundreds of 20- and 30-somethings, tired of being cooped up, gathered at 14th and U streets NW on Saturday for a little restless indulgence.

Snowball fight!

People squealed as they hurled balls of snow across the largely deserted road. Then, a snowball or two slammed into a Hummer. The driver, a plainclothes detective whom D.C. police refused to identify, got out, drew his gun and exchanged angry words with revelers, according to video footage and witnesses.

Police said initially that the detective had not flashed his weapon. On Sunday, the officer was placed on desk duty after Twitter, blogs and YouTube appeared to show otherwise.

If the final investigation shows the officer pulled his weapon after being pelted with snowballs, D.C. Assistant Chief Pete Newsham, head of the investigative services bureau, said that "would not be a situation in which a member [of the force] would be justified."

"We have to see what the entire circumstance was," Newsham said Sunday. "But just a snowball fight, not in my mind. That doesn't seem a situation where we would pull out a service weapon."

The snowball fight was the brainchild of Yousef Ali, a 25-year-old former Apple Genius and aspiring "rock star" who is forging a career in media and technology. In an interview Sunday, Ali said, he was inspired to start the snowball fight by a friend's Facebook status and used a dormant personal blog, http:/<WBR>/<WBR>www.futuremagining.com/<WBR>?p=3, and extensive Twitter promotion to expand the participant list.

With Ali's nonstop efforts, the event was making the cyber rounds. Even the D.C. Department of Transportation seemed to embrace it, Tweeting on Saturday soon after the fight began: "SNOW UPDATE as advertised, there is a large snowball battle at 14th and U. Keep it safe."

"Basically, I used a lot of my social media promotions techniques and on Twitter to really push this thing pretty big," Ali said. "I pretty much did this consistently until about 5 in the morning Saturday, so it was almost like 11 hours straight staying in my apartment working on this stuff."

Jason Grishkoff, 24, said he read about the fight online and considered it a must-go. Growing up in South Africa, Grishkoff said, he had hardly seen snow.

"This was my first snowball fight," he said. "I've always been a fan of the flash-mob type of things. I kind of figured it was along those lines."
Grishkoff said he arrived at the intersection promptly at 2 p.m. to find just 20 people milling about. By 2:15 p.m., he said, there were 100; by 2:30 p.m., 100 on each side.

Some cars passing by rolled down their windows to taunt the warriors -- and were consequently pelted with snow. Gas-guzzling Hummers became a particular target, Grishkoff said, because of the crowd's political leanings. (A few people, witnesses said, brought an antiwar sign, although the snowball fight was not a political protest.)

Police, at least initially, were tolerant, witnesses said. By some accounts, a D.C. officer asked the revelers to disperse, but when they didn't, he didn't raise a fuss. At one point, witnesses said, the snowball fighters helped push a police car out of the snow.
"You can criticize it for being immature . . . but it was pretty safe," said Matthew Bradley, 28, an amateur photographer who showed up to shoot pictures. "It seemed like everything was what you'd expect."

Then a maroon Hummer pulled up and was hit by snowballs. A man in plainclothes got out with a gun in his left hand.

According to witnesses, the man did not identify himself, and at least one reveler threw a snowball at him. Most witnesses said the man kept the gun at his side. But some witnesses said the detective holstered the gun and then charged into the crowd, pushing at least one snowball fighter with his finger and threatening to haul others to jail.

Soon other officers arrived, including one who also approached with a gun drawn at his side, police and witnesses said. Police said that officer knew only that witnesses had reported a man with a gun, and when he learned that the man was a detective, he quickly holstered his weapon.

But the confrontation continued. The snowball fighters, some chanting, "You don't bring a gun to a snowfall fight," demanded the detective's name, and he admitted to them that he had pulled his gun after being struck by snowballs, according to video footage and witnesses. Then, as the detective was walking back to his Hummer, witnesses said, he was struck again by a snowball and ran back into the crowd to grab the man he thought was the culprit.

The man was eventually released, witnesses said, and the revelers were sent on their way.
But some remain unsatisfied.

"There was this general mood of everything's a good time, and then he pulls out a gun, and everybody's just fearful," said Peter Witte, 30. "It was a little bit surreal to see somebody get out of the car with a gun."

"It was actually kind of just fun and games until all of this happened," said Lacy MacAuley, 31, who came to the snowball fight from Adams Morgan. "I feel that this is just an example of people asserting our basic right to have fun, and the police not being okay with that."
 
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I dont think Id get in a snow ball fight in DC unless I did have a gun! lol.
 

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That's a nice pimpmobile the Bad Lieutenant is driving. D.C. civil servants must get paid really well.
 

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What's even more disturbing is in Washington D.C private citizens are not allowed to defend themselves and own a firearm. It's freightening how some americans don't trust their fellow citizens to be armed, but trust egomaniacs like Detective Baylor to protect them from crime.
 

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What's even more disturbing is in Washington D.C private citizens are not allowed to defend themselves and own a firearm. It's freightening how some americans don't trust their fellow citizens to be armed, but trust egomaniacs like Detective Baylor to protect them from crime.

I'm not sure they trust him/them....They just don't have a choice.:puke1:
 
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hmm, let's see Snowball vs. Gun ......I just don't see the Fairness of that Fight.

best part was it was His "Ride" that got hit by the Snowball

The Guy is an ASSHOLE :103631605
 

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Example of why some hate/fear cops. And YES, there are more than a few bad ones. Too bad the screening processes used aren't more exact.:ohno:
 
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"Fuck You Pig!" LOL

Truth be told im not surprised of anything in DC no more. The only thing that shciks me is that the undy had the balls to pull out da strap in a heavilly populated area like 14th and U. If this happened in SE or SW DC, I would almost expect someone to pull out a gun but not in UpTown! Especially over a fucking snowball fight when theres 2 feet of snow falling in the process.
 

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Pulling out a gun is not the answer however if my ride got hit with a snowball in heavy traffic in the snow I'd be pissed as well. Not to mention, he gets out of the truck and a guy hits him in the face with another snowball.
 

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Honestly, I don't blame the cop.

How about we teach our kids not to throw snowballs at moving vehicles. What if the snowball hit his windshield and he was temporarily blinded and ran over a 5 year old kid?

We would have posts about how the police don't do enough to stop these kids blah blah blah.
 

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Stupid from both parties. Don't hit random cars with snowballs and don't pull a gun because of it.
 

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I want an audit of how this DC detective is affording a brand new Hummer. He is probably dirty.
 

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Not to mention, he gets out of the truck and a guy hits him in the face with another snowball.

That's a longstanding tradition in snowball fights when you're the Fat Kid.

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How about we teach our kids not to throw snowballs at moving vehicles. What if the snowball hit his windshield and he was temporarily blinded and ran over a 5 year old kid?

Yeah!

And then he jumps out of his truck after running over the 5 year old and finds out it's really a Fucking Midget!

An unemployed Fucking Midget that is on his way to Circus School to try and better his future!

And now the children of the FM are hungry and their FM Mother has to start living off taxpayer money!

And walking the streets to try and hustle sex for more money!

But no one is buying sex from street midgets because it's too fucking cold in the fucking snow and so everyone is keeping warm by getting into snowball fights!

And then someone throws a snowball and it hits the windshield of a vehicle!

And then the vehicle drives over a REAL 5 year old!



Fucking snow.....
 

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WOW...the WashingtonPost swallows the MCPD bullshit story hook, line and fucking sinker


.....the official position of the D.C. Police Department. Here are some key excerpts:

Assistant Chief Pete Newsham, who leads the department’s investigative services bureau, said it appears the patrol officer acted appropriately, and the worst the detective might have done is use inappropriate language in dealing with the snowball fighters.

And this:

At some point, Newsham said, the detective approached the group of snowball fighters and had “some kind of interaction” with them. He said the detective holstered a cellphone, and someone from the crowd called to report a man with a gun.

“He was armed but never pulls his weapon,” Newsham said of the detective. “I think what probably happens is somebody probably saw his gun and called the police.”


http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/...2/washington-post-sits-on-eyewitness-account/
 

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