He is young and has a lot of potential. One year shouldn't be the standard to judge a NFL HC. His best player Brandon Marshall was a disruptive much of the year and his secondary while full of big names is really getting old with players like Ty Law, Brian Dawkins and even Champ Bailey, who I think has lost a step. The fact is the vets from the Shanahan era had a difficult time adjusting to his style, some were slightly older than him which is almost unheard of in the NFL..
The team was essentially split between Shanahan holdovers (many who lost substantial playing time from 2008) and new blood that McDaniels brought in. Players like Eddie Royal and Brandon Stokley saw their PT and stats take serious dives. No doubt about it Marshall is gone, given the right situation he is a monster wideout and could turn a teams offense around almost by himself. If I was Daniel Snyder I would open the check book and bring him to Washington.
Bottom line is give Josh a little time to make the team his.
Oh yeah - I might get some heat for this but IMO Kyle Orton is no bargain.
wil.
The team was essentially split between Shanahan holdovers (many who lost substantial playing time from 2008) and new blood that McDaniels brought in. Players like Eddie Royal and Brandon Stokley saw their PT and stats take serious dives. No doubt about it Marshall is gone, given the right situation he is a monster wideout and could turn a teams offense around almost by himself. If I was Daniel Snyder I would open the check book and bring him to Washington.
Bottom line is give Josh a little time to make the team his.
Oh yeah - I might get some heat for this but IMO Kyle Orton is no bargain.
wil.
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The best move McDaniels made was in trying to trade Cutler and get Cassel. He was so inept in how he handled that, it actually worked out for him.
The Cutler trade made his job easier. Getting TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS, a third rounder and Kyle Orton was stealing.
Now they still have Chicago's Top 10 pick this year ... and even if they cut Orton, who gives a fuck? That being said, Orton is a serviceable QB ... and WAYYYYY more dependable than Cutler will ever be.
The Broncos are better off because of the Bears more than they are because of McDaniels.
The Cutler trade made his job easier. Getting TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS, a third rounder and Kyle Orton was stealing.
Now they still have Chicago's Top 10 pick this year ... and even if they cut Orton, who gives a fuck? That being said, Orton is a serviceable QB ... and WAYYYYY more dependable than Cutler will ever be.
The Broncos are better off because of the Bears more than they are because of McDaniels.
The third rounder last year was a pick swap for a fifth rounder that the Bears used to pick Johnny Knox. Who did the Broncos use that pick on anyway?
We'll see how it works out. Moreno is nothing special IMO. Let's see what they make of the 10th pick. Ultimately I think it will prove to be a mistake unless they find a real QB to replace Cutler. Not sure what dependable means. Dependably mediocre is still mediocre.
Cutler had an almost comically bad first season with his new team with serious line problems and zero experience at receiver, yet his final QB rating was not even that far off from Orton's. Manning and Favre weren't that "dependable" their first few years in the NFL either.
i like him here is my only beef....he seems like the kind of guy that works a lot on player emotion instead of x's and o's.....he might go for a guy personality wise he likes instead of the best guy.......coaches like him usually have short term success but it is hard to sustain......i wish him the best .....hope he does well......hes young he may get the all politics of the business down sooner rather than later
Cutler fucks up, and it's the bad line and bad receivers ... Orton played with the same receivers and didn't play HALF AS BAD as Cutler.
Everytime a star player doesn't pan out, it's always someone else's fault. Peyton Manning is winning with Collie and Garcon, Brady won with Givens, Patton and no running game ... good QB's win, the bad ones always seem to have off line problems ... like Drew Bledsoe had offensive line problems the first few games of 2001 ... they same line that Tom Brady won the Super Bowl with.
PS: I am done with this thread on anything related to Cutler ...
I think he's trying to hard to "develop a culture" there. He wants to weed people out, and that is what Belichick's assistants think is the most important thing a coach has to do.
Mangini is trying to do the same thing in Cleveland and he might have hit the jackpot the way that team played towards the end. They had so many reasons to quit and they didn't.
BAS,
I guess it depends on what you mean by "a good job".
They started 6-0 (he gets an atta boy for that)...but let's be honest, except for the fluke play of the decade, they should have lost to Cincy in week 1... but then managed to go 2-8 down the stretch to become only one of a small handfull of teams in the history of the NFL to miss the playoffs after starting 6-0.
So, it's hard to give him more than a C-, isn't it?
Doc
I guess it depends on what you mean by "a good job".
They started 6-0 (he gets an atta boy for that)...but let's be honest, except for the fluke play of the decade, they should have lost to Cincy in week 1... but then managed to go 2-8 down the stretch to become only one of a small handfull of teams in the history of the NFL to miss the playoffs after starting 6-0.
So, it's hard to give him more than a C-, isn't it?
Doc
Agree!
If Broncos lose Marshall, Orton's level of efficiency goes down, down, down.
Many of his completed passes were caught because of Marshalls ability to go get a ball thrown in his vicinity.
I'll reserve judgement on McDaniels. Kinda like a new girlfriend. Hot at first, ego and actions hamper relationship, on the see-saw now, which way will we teeter. Broncos finish down the stretch was horrific, just like last year. Last year it cost Shanahan his job. If McDaniels ckecks his ego at the door, improves his relationship with players, fine tunes his coaching abilities, perhaps he will become a winner.
Coaches prepare and put players in the best possible position to win games. Players win games! Remember the last 3 words, Josh. Otherwise you will remain a loser.
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