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question guys, does anyone have any idea why the Pro Bowl is going to be held before Superbowl if it's always been after it
I wouldn't send my players if I managed either superbolw teams if you ask me
 

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Pro Bowl.

All players from Super Bowl teams that made the Pro Bowl will not play or dress for The Pro Bowl. The league however is making them show up to be introduced in civvies and watch the game. For example David Garrard of The Jags is taking Peyton Manning's place.

I assume they will receive the cut that their team receives even if they don't play, as each player on the team that wins receives around $40,000 and the losers about half that.


In 2011 and 2012 the game is going back to Hawaii.


2010 rosters with Super Bowl replacement players indicated: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12720440


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Ty Wil , and one last question, why not after the superbowl? why was it moved ahead
 

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The league decided that the two week wait between the Conference Championships and the Super Bowl Game itself was to long a wait without something semi major going on so they got the brilliant idea to move the Pro Bowl into the open Sunday between the Conference Championships (last Sunday) and the Super Bow on Feb. 7th.

Rumor has it the the players are not happy with the set-up.

USA Today article FYI.


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It makes too much sense, so of course people will complain

There is nothing the league could do to make people care about the game, but this way people actually pay attention. With Manning, Brees, et al., sitting out, make an invitation as much of a lifetime achievement award as recognition for one year. When a washed up Jerry Rice or Emmitt Smith hang on too long, offer them the chance to showoff for the fans one last time

Instead of trying to turn the NFL into a 12 month league, with the Super Bowl followed by the Pro Bowl followed by the draft, then the Hall-of-Fame game just around the corner, it is better to take advantage of the strengths. Two weeks was too much of a lull; as far as meaningless fluff to fill the time, the Pro Bowl is better than what we usually end up enduring
 

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Roger Godell is all for it..But don't ask Bill Polian..

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Thursday that he considers the Pro Bowl in Miami a "success" despite criticism from some inside the league and dozens of players withdrawing from the event.

Goodell said he's pleased by the attention brought on the Pro Bowl, being held on the U.S. mainland for the first time in 30 years this Sunday.

"What we're seeing is a lot more attention on the Pro Bowl than we've ever had before," Goodell said, via the AP. "And that in and of itself is a success."

Colts president Bill Polian described the rules for the Pro Bowl -- which require players from the Super Bowl teams to make ceremonial appearances, even before the teams arrive in Miami -- as "stupid" this week.

Goodell said that despite criticism, the league values the exposure for the all-star game.

"We knew that not having the Super Bowl players was something that was going to be a negative to doing this," Goodell said. "But everyone felt that there was a real chance to put this Pro Bowl on a higher platform and be a positive thing. We did that and I think it has worked for us. Super Bowl players will be on the biggest stage of all a week later."


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Personally, I could careless when and where they play the game. I used to watch it as a kid to see my favorite players. I even remember when the old NFL had what they called The Playoff Bowl or officially, the Bert Bell Benefit Bowl (at least in it's early years, I watched it). The event was a post-season game for third place in the NFL, played ten times following the 1960-69 seasons.

Bert Bell was a co-founder of the Philadelphia Eagles as well as a co-owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers during much of the 1940s. He was the commissioner of the NFL from 1946 until his death in October 1959, which occurred while attending an Eagles-Steelers game.

All ten games in the Playoff Bowl series were contested at the Orange Bowl in Miami. The games were played in January, the week following the NFL championship game (and the collegiate Orange Bowl game on New Year's Day). The NFL's Pro Bowl (all-star game) was played the week after the Playoff Bowl.

After the 1959 season, NFL owners faced competition from the newly-formed AFL and wanted a vehicle through which to showcase more of its superior NFL professional football product on television. At the time, few NFL games were televised and there was only one scheduled post-season game, the NFL Championship Game. The Playoff Bowl was devised to match the second-place teams from the NFL's two conferences (Eastern & Western). This doubled from two to four the number of top NFL teams appearing in post-season play on national television.

The 1966 season added another game following the NFL Championship Game, the first Super Bowl against the champions of the AFL for the undisputed championship of professional football. The establishment of the Super Bowl (not its official name until Super Bowl III) was the first phase of the AFL-NFL merger of June 1966. This new mega-game between the rival leagues was played in mid-January at a warm weather location, two weeks after the championship games for each league. The NFL's Playoff Bowl was played during the idle week, and due to the increasing quality of the AFL, interest in the game was waning.

In the 1967 season, the NFL expanded to 16 teams and four scheduled post-season contests. The NFL sub-divided its two conferences (now 8 teams each) into two divisions of four teams each: The Capitol and Century divisions in the Eastern conference, and the Central & Coastal divisions in the Western conference. The four division winners advanced to the post-season, competing for their conference titles in the first round of the NFL playoffs. The winners (conference champions) advanced to the NFL championship game, the losers (conference runners-up) appeared in the Playoff Bowl to vie for third place. For the three seasons (1967-69) preceding the 1970 merger with the AFL, the loser of the NFL's third place game ended up with a peculiar record of 0-2 for that post-season.

The end of the Playoff Bowl

When the merger was completed for the 1970 season, there was discussion about continuing the Playoff Bowl, with the losers of the AFC and NFC Championship Games playing each other during the idle week before the Super Bowl. There were now seven post-season games in the NFL (three for each conference, plus the Super Bowl), and the Pro Bowl all-star game. A "loser's game" was not necessarily attractive for the league, and the Playoff Bowl came to an end.

Official Status

Although the ten Playoff Bowls were official third place playoff games at the time they were played, the NFL currently classifies them as exhibition games, and does not include them in the official results (or statistics) for the post-season.

Criticism

Legendary coach Vince Lombardi disliked the Playoff Bowl, coaching in the game following the 1963 and 1964 seasons, after winning NFL titles in 1961-62. To his players, Lombardi called the Playoff Bowl "the 'Shit Bowl', ...a losers' bowl for losers." This lack of motivation may explain his Packers' rare post-season loss in the 1964 game (January 1965) to the St. Louis Cardinals. After he lost that Playoff Bowl, he detested it. He fumed about "a rinky-dink football game, held in a rinky-dink town, played by rinky-dink players. That's all second place is—rinky dink."

Using the Playoff Bowl (and loss) as motivation in 1965, the Packers won the first of three consecutive NFL championships from 1965-67. As of 2010, the Packers are the only NFL team ever to achieve this "three-peat" in the post-season era (which began in 1933). During this successful run, the Packers also won the first two Super Bowls in convincing fashion.

In an ironic twist, Lombardi's final game (and victory) as head coach of the Packers was Super Bowl II, played in "rinky-dink" Miami's Orange Bowl in January 1968.

Legacy


One vestige of the Playoff Bowl remained through the 2008 season in that the head coaches of the losing teams from the conference championship games were the head coaches of their conferences' Pro Bowl teams. From 1980 to 2009, this all-star game has been played at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu the Sunday following the Super Bowl. However, in 2010, the Pro Bowl will move to Miami, just as the Playoff Bowl was, and be played the week before Super Bowl XLIV (as the Playoff Bowl was in the Super Bowl era). The game will return to Hawaii for 2011 and 2012, with future sites to be determined.

For the 2009 season, the last vestige of the Playoff Bowl will disappear, possibly permanently, with a new rule for determining the Pro Bowl coaches. The coaching staffs for the 2010 Pro Bowl will no longer come from the losers of the conference championship games, but instead from the teams with the best regular-season records among those that lost in the divisional round of the playoffs in each conference.


Playoff Bowl results

All ten games were played at the Orange Bowl in Miami, Florida.
Season Date Winner Score Runner up
1960 January 7, 1961 Detroit Lions 17-16 Cleveland Browns
1961 January 6, 1962 Detroit Lions 38-10 Philadelphia Eagles
1962 January 6, 1963 Detroit Lions 17-10 Pittsburgh Steelers
1963 January 9, 1964 Green Bay Packers 40-23 Cleveland Browns
1964 January 8, 1965 St. Louis Cardinals 24-17 Green Bay Packers
1965 January 9, 1966 Baltimore Colts 35-3 Dallas Cowboys
1966 January 8, 1967 Baltimore Colts 20-14 Philadelphia Eagles
1967 January 7, 1968 Los Angeles Rams 30-6 Cleveland Browns
1968 January 5, 1969 Dallas Cowboys 17-13 Minnesota Vikings
1969 January 3, 1970 Los Angeles Rams 31-0 Dallas Cowboys

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