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Aria a major factor in revenue spike as high rollers visit new casino

High rollers bring baccarat boom to Las Vegas

Aria a major factor in revenue spike as high rollers visit new casino


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A select group of players concentrated among a few Las Vegas casinos wagered an eye-popping $1.3 billion on baccarat games in December — a record for any single month in state history.

Although most gambling games in Nevada are getting significantly less action in the recession, baccarat, a high roller game offered by 17 properties on and near the Strip, is booming.

Strip casinos won $155.7 million from baccarat players in December, surpassing previous records for revenue and wagering volume set in December 2007 at the tail end of the tourism boom. By comparison, the industry’s most popular games, slots and blackjack, have retreated to revenue levels seen in 2003-04.

December’s opening of MGM Mirage’s $8.5 billion CityCenter, a high-end complex anchored by the luxury Aria, was primarily responsible for the boost in baccarat play.

More than $42 million of the estimated $56 million in gambling revenue generated by Aria in the two weeks after its Dec. 16 opening came from baccarat, according to Las Vegas analysts Union Gaming Group and others that have examined state figures released this month.

(Although property-specific information is confidential by law, Aria’s opening yielded a spike in a little-watched gambling category, offering an unprecedented look at a resort’s initial performance.)

By those estimates, each of Aria’s 21 baccarat tables generated about $2 million in revenue in two weeks. Those are big numbers, even by the standards of baccarat, a game that can attract wagers of more than $100,000 a hand. Baccarat tables in the Strip’s biggest casinos generated about half-a-million dollars a month last year, state figures show.

New Year’s Eve has always been a big event for baccarat, which is favored by wealthy Chinese whose net worth is growing even as the economies of the United States and other parts of the world are hurting.

Casino openings typically aren’t a good measure of long-term business performance, as they generate huge crowds who flock to experience the buzz of a new resort. That’s especially true of CityCenter, the nation’s largest and most expensive privately funded construction project. Its five-year development was closely followed in the media and marketed globally by MGM Mirage.

Yet analysts believe Aria’s baccarat action is an early sign that the property — although likely stealing some business from other Strip resorts — is attracting additional high roller business to Las Vegas.

“This speaks very well to continued (baccarat) demand at all properties, not just CityCenter,” said Grant Govertsen, a Union Gaming Group principal. “There’s no doubt CityCenter is cannibalizing business. But perhaps they are cannibalizing business less than investors expected.”
MGM Mirage stock soared on the news but plummeted again Thursday after reporting poor fourth-quarter earnings that revealed big declines in some other parts of the business.

During the company’s conference call to discuss earnings, CEO Jim Murren said international business, driven by Asian customers, reached a new high last year and that its share of the high roller market has increased, in part because of Aria.

Other properties are benefiting as fourth-quarter baccarat volume rose at casinos other than Aria, Murren said.

The company had its biggest crowds for Chinese New Year this year, he said, while credit lines and front money that facilitate high roller action are up significantly from a year ago. Many Asian players are first-time customers who are coming to town to see Aria, he said.

Baccarat is helping to fill the state’s depressed tax coffers but doesn’t benefit the vast majority of Nevada casinos, including most on the Strip, that don’t offer it or cater to high rollers. Overall, the Strip experienced its biggest decline in gambling revenue in history last year, and statewide gambling revenue fell to 2003 levels.

Lower-tier properties can’t afford the potential hit that a single baccarat player’s multimillion-dollar win could mean for the bottom line.

And yet, baccarat play on the Strip — which accounts for slightly more than half of all the gambling revenue won by casinos statewide — is making Nevada’s numbers look better than they would otherwise.

November and December were the only two months of year-over-year increases in gambling revenue on the Strip in 2009. Excluding baccarat, overall Strip gambling revenue would have fallen 5 percent to 6 percent during those months.
 
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One of the few games I've never played nor do I even know how...


It's a GREAT Game !!

I have played it for years....and I can Truly say that I am ahead of the game.
Not saying I win All the time, because I'm Not.

But I Love this game !
 
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Also, if you Ever wanted to Watch them Play and maybe learn the Game.
Check out Mini Bacc.

High Limit baccarat is played in the High Rollers room, and can't really be watched.

The Best thing I remember back in the day, You get players that Rip the Cards...Throw them in the Air.....pretty funny stuff.

Only game in the Casino that you can do that.
 
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I always thought the game was pretty mindless.

There are only 3 bets for the player: banker, player or tie.

Anyone that would ever bet the tie is essentially pissing away
their money since the house edge is > 14% on that bet.

The other two have house edges around 1%.
 

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funny you should post this, i just bought a book about the game

power bacarat 2

Love the game and wanted to learn more about it.
 
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funny you should post this, i just bought a book about the game

power bacarat 2

Love the game and wanted to learn more about it.


Good, and when you come to this Years Bash....I'll have someone to play with. :toast:
None of my Gambling friends Play. It's always Me, and the asian's at the Table.
 

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I'm a lifetime winner at the game.........thanks to Lyle Stuart's teachings and also by using my 1-1-1-3 system on several occasions.
 
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I'm a lifetime winner at the game.........thanks to Lyle Stuart's teachings and also by using my 1-1-1-3 system on several occasions.


Enlighten me how Stuart suggests one get around the house edge
in the game?

We both know that it is mathematically impossible to change the
house edge with any kind of betting scheme.
 

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Chinese will own Vegas before too long; change name to
Fuk Yoo Ameri, Nevade
 

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It's impossible to beat the house in baccarat in the longrun. System players are long-term losers who don't understand math. Smart players are casual recreational gamblers who bet the banker every single time. The house has a small edge of around 1% if you bet the banker every time. A little higher edge if you bet the player, and a 15% edge if you bet the "tie".

Definitely a fun game, and definitely one you can win at in the short-term.
 

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Have to agree with Zit on this one. But hey if it brings money to vegas, good deal.

This is pretty much all the Asians play at FoxWoods
 

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Enlighten me how Stuart suggests one get around the house edge
in the game?

We both know that it is mathematically impossible to change the
house edge with any kind of betting scheme.



Got to be some comp deal? Maybe play 12 hands and hour and get rated for much more than you are putting in play. Only think I can think of.
 

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The book I bought that I've been reading talks about keeping records during the game and trying to take advantage of the streaks that occur during the game. You can have runs where the player or banker will win several hands in a row. I heard the author discussing this during a podcast so I bought the book on amazon for $10. At this point I am not sure if this is good advice or not. I enjoy playing the game though, most of the time I will bet on banker
 

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bad advice. if it were possible to "take advantage of streaks" casinos would have gone bankrupt long ago. they love to keep that myth alive. its something that sounds good to most gamblers, but their is no math behind it. if banker has won 5 in a row, the odds on the next hand have not changed.
 

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Everyone that has posted in this thread has good intentions, but many and most have posted what is simply inaccurate information.

My suggestion is to read as much as you can on the game if one really would like to learn the mathematics and strategy that can be applied to this great game.
 

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Fishhead, any reading suggestions?


There are many and here are some off the top of my head...........

1. First off, read everything and anything by Lyle Stuart(Baccarat or not).


2. Winning at Baccarat by Mike McGuire ...............

This is a great book and you will learn things about Baccarat that you never knew before.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

3. Byron F. Hebert's Book "Power Baccarat 2"
 

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New Year’s Eve has always been a big event for baccarat, which is favored by wealthy Chinese whose net worth is growing even as the economies of the United States and other parts of the world are hurting.
 

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Still CAN BOS

Nothing like being in the Salon at Caesars and bending the cards and throwing them all crazy and shit. Yes a large Asian game but I have seen a large influx of wealthy South American's play of late at Caesars. A slightly shifting dynamic.

Also, if you Ever wanted to Watch them Play and maybe learn the Game.
Check out Mini Bacc.

High Limit baccarat is played in the High Rollers room, and can't really be watched.

The Best thing I remember back in the day, You get players that Rip the Cards...Throw them in the Air.....pretty funny stuff.

Only game in the Casino that you can do that.
 

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