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How much house do we get for $1300 a month.

I am looking for a rough estimate. We are looking to buy in two years. A long ways off but I am curious. We will have 10k at that time for down payment.

$1300 is what we could comfortably afford per month for mortage. Including taxes.. What is the total price of the house will we be able to afford?
 

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If you got it now, you could get one for 200k. If you are waiting two years it is irrelevant to even guess - could be looking at double the current interest rates. They will not stay low forever. Anyone remember the rates from the eighties?

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BTW 200k for a house could get a decent place - or nothing much at all. It all depends on where you live. If you are in Cali or NYC prepare to be slumming it up.
 

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I live in No. Jersey.....Taxes are the worst...I have to believe your better deals are down south....Less taxes,more bang for your buck....All depends on what your looking for....A buddy of mine is picking up a condo in foreclosure down in So.Fla. dirt cheap.
 

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Why wait interest rates at all time lows, most areas of US housing market depressed, 8000 credit available if you have a signed purchase agreement by end of april and close by end of June
 

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Why wait interest rates at all time lows, most areas of US housing market depressed, 8000 credit available if you have a signed purchase agreement by end of april and close by end of June
Those are all fantastic reasons NOT to buy a home.
 

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So he should wait till the rates go up, the market is at its peak, and he has no tax credit? No one is this stupid, so I am assuming you made a typo.
What happens to home prices when interest rates go up and the government isn't giving you $8,000 extra to buy a home?
 

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What happens to home prices when interest rates go up and the government isn't giving you $8,000 extra to buy a home?

New home sales plummet even further?? If rates skyrocket no one will do be doing anything. I don't suppose you have any background in construction at all do you? The only reason anyone is doing ANYTHING now is because rates are super low, so they can afford more. I am scared to death the rates will go like they did in the eighties - if that happens we can kiss our collective asses goodbye. Please talk some sense into me because it seems like you obviously think you know the answers.
 

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New home sales plummet even further?? If rates skyrocket no one will do be doing anything. I don't suppose you have any background in construction at all do you? The only reason anyone is doing ANYTHING now is because rates are super low, so they can afford more. I am scared to death the rates will go like they did in the eighties - if that happens we can kiss our collective asses goodbye. Please talk some sense into me because it seems like you obviously think you know the answers.
Construction? No. Basic Economics? Yes.

You have part of it right, the only reason anyone can afford anything now is because rates are low and there's a $8,000 credit. When rates increase, demand decreases. When demand decreases, what happens to price?

The time to buy a home isn't when rates are low, it's to swoop in with a cash offer when rates are high.
 

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In Idaho where im at you can get a 2500 sq or bigger new house for around that in a awesome neighborhood

in CA you will get a shack for that money

all depends on where you want to live
 

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Construction? No. Basic Economics? Yes.

You have part of it right, the only reason anyone can afford anything now is because rates are low and there's a $8,000 credit. When rates increase, demand decreases. When demand decreases, what happens to price?

The time to buy a home isn't when rates are low, it's to swoop in with a cash offer when rates are high.

Obviously the prices will drop - but who will be able to afford them? Think you could buy a house at 18% interest?? I don't think we have hit the bottom of this, and some markets have further to fall than others obviously. The majority of Americans have next to zero in liquid cash savings - most of us rely solely on credit. The problem will come when the credit stops going out (which is happening now, btw) and the cost of borrowing becomes too high (which HAS to happen eventually). I see this shit every single day and it is bad - I deal with developers, contractors, brokers, you name it...all of them agree this is the worst they have ever seen it.
 

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Obviously the prices will drop - but who will be able to afford them? Think you could buy a house at 18% interest?? I don't think we have hit the bottom of this, and some markets have further to fall than others obviously. The majority of Americans have next to zero in liquid cash savings - most of us rely solely on credit. The problem will come when the credit stops going out (which is happening now, btw) and the cost of borrowing becomes too high (which HAS to happen eventually). I see this shit every single day and it is bad - I deal with developers, contractors, brokers, you name it...all of them agree this is the worst they have ever seen it.
We haven't hit the bottom and that's EXACTLY why it would be a TERRIBLE time to buy now. The idiots buying because of an $8000 credit or a low rate are downright stupid, not realizing they'll be losing in some areas what looks like 20-40% of their purchase price.

If you're in Nebraska, or Idaho, or Montana, go ahead and buy if you have a steady job. If you're in California? Arizona? Nevada? Florida? Rent for at least 5 years. You absolutely HAVE to evaluate rent-price ratios in your area and if it's over 6, don't even think about it. California has places where home prices are 20X annual rent. Makes no sense.

Record unemployment (and rising), low interest rates, record foreclosures (and rising), price-rent ratios out of whack, all are the ingredients for a collapse in prices. The only reason it hasn't happened already is because the government has artificially kept prices up with billions being given to the banks (stimulus) who now hold these assets (foreclosed homes) they aren't in the business of holding.

Doctor Housing Bubble's Blog is a good read on the subject. I saw a good post on the forums that I copied here a while ago, linked below.

http://therxforum.com/showpost.php?p=7703024&postcount=416
 

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We haven't hit the bottom and that's EXACTLY why it would be a TERRIBLE time to buy now. The idiots buying because of an $8000 credit or a low rate are downright stupid, not realizing they'll be losing in some areas what looks like 20-40% of their purchase price.

If you're in Nebraska, or Idaho, or Montana, go ahead and buy if you have a steady job. If you're in California? Arizona? Nevada? Florida? Rent for at least 5 years. You absolutely HAVE to evaluate rent-price ratios in your area and if it's over 6, don't even think about it. California has places where home prices are 20X annual rent. Makes no sense.

Record unemployment (and rising), low interest rates, record foreclosures (and rising), price-rent ratios out of whack, all are the ingredients for a collapse in prices. The only reason it hasn't happened already is because the government has artificially kept prices up with billions being given to the banks (stimulus) who now hold these assets (foreclosed homes) they aren't in the business of holding.

Doctor Housing Bubble's Blog is a good read on the subject. I saw a good post on the forums that I copied here a while ago, linked below.

http://therxforum.com/showpost.php?p=7703024&postcount=416


This is way to much of a generalization...a blanket statement like that does not fit all areas of the country at this time. There are plenty of places that have already dropped 20-30-40-50% in value. A first time home buyer, locking in at 5% getting 8000 back, and assuming they are not flipping the property, can not go wrong in certain areas.
 

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what about massachusetts better to buy or rent?


You will have to do some number crunching to find out. I have not been to Mass, but I am assuming there are some areas that are much more expensive to live in than others. Check out the rates for renting (based on square footage) vs buying. Around here 250k will get you about 2k sq ft in a new home, assuming you do not mind living in the suburbs/rural areas. In the city you can buy something for 250k and get 2k sq ft but it will be a dump that was built 30+ yrs ago. Sub 5% rates won't be around forever and it could take a long, long time for them to come back. If you have a job you feel comfortable with I can't see why anyone would not want to buy when you can lock in so low.
 

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This is way to much of a generalization...a blanket statement like that does not fit all areas of the country at this time. There are plenty of places that have already dropped 20-30-40-50% in value. A first time home buyer, locking in at 5% getting 8000 back, and assuming they are not flipping the property, can not go wrong in certain areas.
Yes, this was addressed in the next paragraph. You live in Ottosen, Iowa and want to buy a home? Go ahead. Your economy is immune from the rest of the nation.

For the 76% of the people who live in urban areas, purchasing a home is downright stupid in most cases. The places that actually lost the 20-50% in value that you described are actually the places where there's still a long ways to come down.

The entire midwest, the south, and the west are in terrible economic conditions. These states have over 10% unemployment. If you have no job, even with prices getting back to normal, you won't be able to buy. Detroit is a perfect example. Homes are being given away. Makes sense to buy vs rent, but no one can buy because no one has any jobs.

The places where the bubble boomed are the places where there's still a ways to come down. California, Arizona, Nevada, Florida, these places have already fallen a ton. Case-Shiller has Los Angeles down 30% from it's peak, and it's still got a LONG way to go to come close to any kind of affordability.

The price-rent ratios make no sense in most areas, there's a ridiculous amount of growing foreclosures, no one can get loans because no one has a job, there's a HUGE amount of shadow inventory, moratoriums are expiring releasing homes to the market, there's no free market right now because of the government intervention in the bailout and the low interest rates artificially keeping prices up, homes have to lose 40% or more in some areas to match rent prices that are falling as well, the nation has record unemployment, all pointing to what economists are predicting as another crash coming.

But yet morons listen to a realtor and think "Wow, $8,000!? I need to buy buy buy!" These are the same people responsible for the collapse in the housing market. They don't understand simple economics.
 

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