What AMAZES me is all the LONG TERMERS worried about discussing the RECENT CHANGE

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

What in the hell are you all so upset about when customers and posters discuss the recent change with net/spend??? Hell I ahve over 50K in deposits with over 130 k in dispursements through this card? You think this forum will hurt someone more than YOUR own activity?

Yea its over. It was a washing system that lasted for a longer than expected time. I am more upset than anyone.....but this paronoid attitude of being mad at people discussing it is stupid.......they didnt put the block in prior.....and now they did...

now that they have....no book will be able to have a processor that will circle around this for the long term...so the customer will only be sold a short term solution that will fail early in its process

So are you bucs and vikings mad because you get paid by a book that will lose a lot from this?? Then why so much concern?

We discuss....we accept...we move on

Money G and WU are not the solution becaus the local merchants are being audited for all these intl transactions.....all the stupid names.....it has cut me off a many places

We come here to discuss and learn....or are you saying we should do that anymore either?

Well then why come here at all?

NEWPORT

Defying · Jun 2, 2010

:toast:

ProPokerPlayer · Jun 2, 2010

i dont see how discussing what doesnt work hurts. It leads however to talk of what does work and thats what you dont want. Its a tough line to draw..

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

hell the economy is down....books have been lower than ever in a long time.......now this easy prcoess has been eliminated.......so the INTL books will find a solution or......things will change

Anyone one of you get that fake letter telling you they have a WU for you that you have to call in to to claim? Yea good luck with that.....ever see the mouse in the trap when he went for the cheese?

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

ProPokerPlayer said:
i dont see how discussing what doesnt work hurts. It leads however to talk of what does work and thats what you dont want. Its a tough line to draw..

Well when I saw a post yesterday calling people stupid for discussing.....I could not believe it......This is where you come for knowledge.....but for those of you that dont know these forums are run by many who also run the books....so that would be the only reaon to call out someone who wants to discuss.....hell you have over 40 places and topics to discuss items.....why do you have them> to talk about the best blow job stripper in CR? or where to get the best SushI? hahaha

This is business....

Scoops · Jun 2, 2010

ProPokerPlayer said:
i dont see how discussing what doesnt work hurts. It leads however to talk of what does work and thats what you dont want. Its a tough line to draw..

I agree with this:toast:

Doug · Jun 2, 2010

It's the RX that doesn't want it discussed.

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

Well whoever does it not want it discussed it is not important...what is important is that MG and WU are the only solution....and the merchants are being sudited with those "mary jemima" fake names....and they are ready to turn in the regular weekly patron

See when the patron is about to get shut don for not keeping all thise garbage receipts.......who do you think they will follow...you the gamer or the state audit??

Anyways.....the load card days are over........and WU and MG are working for the man...so beware

Doug · Jun 2, 2010

I see a lot of gamblers quitting over this, esp. the casual NFL only type that won't know about this for months. It's just too much hassle. Easier to legally buy pot, than bet a game offshore in some states.

I saw nothing in the regular media about this recently.

Many will just never re-up once they bust out, IMO. Great for locals !

Stay with the big A+ books, the small books will be gone.

Sending a cashier's check to the book ( by courier) might be the new way ?

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

You know Doug you make some very realistic comments...I love the one with pot....You are very correct.....the MG Wu thing is not the solution...I mean for the love of God for a group of Well whoever does it not want it discussed it is not important...what is important is that MG and WU are the only solution....and the merchants are being sudited with those "mary jemima" fake names....and they are ready to turn in the regular weekly patron

See when the patron is about to get shut don for not keeping all thise garbage receipts.......who do you think they will follow...you the gamer or the state audit??

Anyways.....the load card days are over........and WU and MG are working for the man...so beware

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

the RX is auditing my posts as we speak...they are all coming in out of order

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

I had two separate posts combined to one...so if I look stupid it is not me....hahahaha

I said they need to go back to ACH deposits and hope for the best.....because the load card days are over......Money management will be important, but the daily player is gone......why spend all this time doing this...when most will grab a bar stool and play keno...seriously

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

as far as the media ....you will not see it.....these cards were a cash flow business that only mini marts and gas stations had available.....do you know I had to teach most of the clerks how to even load the card??? No one is using these cards except for this......they are toast now......

I mean outside of gaming I was shocked they existed at all...money washing at its finest....so say good bye to net and all the others

Illini · Jun 2, 2010

NEWPORT said:
You know Doug you make some very realistic comments...I love the one with pot....You are very correct.....the MG Wu thing is not the solution...I mean for the love of God for a group of Well whoever does it not want it discussed it is not important...what is important is that MG and WU are the only solution....and the merchants are being sudited with those "mary jemima" fake names....and they are ready to turn in the regular weekly patron

See when the patron is about to get shut don for not keeping all thise garbage receipts.......who do you think they will follow...you the gamer or the state audit??

Anyways.....the load card days are over........and WU and MG are working for the man...so beware

Beware of what? You aren't going to get into any trouble as a player. Sure they want to stop the outflow of funds to offshore books, but nobody needs to beware of anything. Even when Neteller went down and they froze the funds for awhile, the gov't still wanted bettors to collect the money that was theirs. And they did.

Doug · Jun 2, 2010

You can still move to Vegas, but I don't want to move back.

Locals will be the big winners here. That's not my style, I'll quit before I lay -110. I don't even have the connections to find a local or agent, or the desire to bet that way.

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NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

Illini

Good seeing you by the way! Always loved your posts

Let me make sure I am clear...and again this is the place to be clear....

The local merchant, unless you own the merchant...and even still

The local merchant who has these multiple transactions with different sender names through WU and MG are now being paid visits by state financial auditors to review those receipts...if the merchant doesnt have copies of them the first time they visit...they warn them.......well after that warning.......when you go to make those transactions....they say "no way"......and in New England I have known some merchants actually point out those senders to "save their ass"

So when the offshore says to ...We still have MG and WU....ok well you better send one a month for your group, as routine transactions trigger the state audit.....the merchantis doing the gamer a favor.....and he will sell you out quicker than a sunburn on a very hot day

Incubus · Jun 2, 2010

I concur with the tone the OP has expressed here.

No big deal.

Just FedEx a bank cashier's check to the offshore of your choice.

How will Nobama and his henchmen stop this? :think2: Anyone? :think2:

Illini · Jun 2, 2010

NEWPORT said:
Illini

Good seeing you by the way! Always loved your posts

Let me make sure I am clear...and again this is the place to be clear....

The local merchant, unless you own the merchant...and even still

The local merchant who has these multiple transactions with different sender names through WU and MG are now being paid visits by state financial auditors to review those receipts...if the merchant doesnt have copies of them the first time they visit...they warn them.......well after that warning.......when you go to make those transactions....they say "no way"......and in New England I have known some merchants actually point out those senders to "save their ass"

So when the offshore says to ...We still have MG and WU....ok well you better send one a month for your group, as routine transactions trigger the state audit.....the merchantis doing the gamer a favor.....and he will sell you out quicker than a sunburn on a very hot day

Hey buddy. I didn't even notice who started the thread. Where have you been? I haven't seen you around here in a long time. What exactly do you mean that they will sell you out? What kind of trouble do you think a bettor can get into? I've never heard of a single instance. Bookies are another story.

NEWPORT · Jun 2, 2010

Ok well lets first start with the locations that are bing sent to via MG and WU....add in todays climate and all these fake stupid names with fake phone numbers......WU and MG through the each state are bign forced to go out and review the receipts......well if the neck of the merchant gets stepped on for all these transactions where he has thrown away the receipts.....no more! I have seen that already occur

Also I have seen where merchants with so many have been pressured to set up the guy who regularly comes in and makes those transactions and he gets stinged....I know of this as well

What I am getting at here is that what we all feared two to three years ago with the new regs is now working through the merchant being audited....can you get away with one a month....sure....but I would be looking for multiple places and....and not making it a routine...YES THE GAMER will be the NEXT in the STING....come on who would know?? Me LOL

Incubus · Jun 2, 2010

NEWPORT said:
Ok well lets first start with the locations that are bing sent to via MG and WU....add in todays climate and all these fake stupid names with fake phone numbers......WU and MG through the each state are bign forced to go out and review the receipts......well if the neck of the merchant gets stepped on for all these transactions where he has thrown away the receipts.....no more! I have seen that already occur

Also I have seen where merchants with so many have been pressured to set up the guy who regularly comes in and makes those transactions and he gets stinged....I know of this as well

What I am getting at here is that what we all feared two to three years ago with the new regs is now working through the merchant being audited....can you get away with one a month....sure....but I would be looking for multiple places and....and not making it a routine...YES THE GAMER will be the NEXT in the STING....come on who would know?? Me LOL

I do not doubt this one bit.

Again, I pose the question. How will those federal cocksuckers stop someone from sending a cashier's check via FedEx to the offshore of their choice? :think2:

This appears to be the sole remaining method of funding an offshore account. Thoughts? :think2: