Can anyone explain to me why Kobe was the finals MVP?

Enfuego · Jun 19, 2010

The guy didn't even shoot 50% in one of the 7 games and shot 40% overall in the series. Guy straight gets his points from FT shooting. To compare him to Michael Jordan is simply laughable.
10-22
8-20
10-29 1-7 from 3
10-22
13-27
9-19
6-24
66-163 = 40%

oldirtyku · Jun 19, 2010

He was the best player on the court for 3 of the 4 games that LAL won... Not sure who else deserved it? This was a defensive series. Numbers are not going to look good.

Enfuego · Jun 19, 2010

oldirtyku said:
He was the best player on the court for 3 of the 4 games that LAL won... Not sure who else deserved it? This was a defensive series. Numbers are not going to look good.

So, he was the best player in 3 of the 7 games? Why was he the best? Because he had the most points? He was awful in 6 and 7 when his team needed him the most. Legends step up in those huge games.

He sure wasn't the best in games 3 and 5 either.

RobFunk · Jun 19, 2010

Rondo was the best player in the series. But the C's didn't win so can't give it to him. Actually, I think Kobes best game was GM 5 when the lake show lost but Bryant did everything to keep L.A in it.

oldirtyku · Jun 19, 2010

Like I asked earlier. Who deserved it more? Everyone on both teams had awful games. Both teams played great defense. Celtics lost so you can eliminate Boston players. Also they had different players step up in each game and no 1 dominated more then a game here or there...

BTW, I don't get why he was awful in game 6? He had 26 points on 47% shooting. He had 11 rebounds and 4 steals while holding Rondo to 5-15 shooting and 5 assists. All this against 1 of the best defenses in the NBA in the last 10+ years and against 1 of the top pgs in the league.

Enfuego · Jun 19, 2010

RobFunk said:
Rondo was the best player in the series. But the C's didn't win so can't give it to him. Actually, I think Kobes best game was GM 5 when the lake show lost but Bryant did everything to keep L.A in it.

This guy had a better series than Kobe:

Game 1- 8-14 23 Points and 14 Rebounds
Game 2-7-10 25 Points and 8 Rebounds
Game 3-5-11 13 Points and 10 Rebounds
Game 4-6-13 21 Points and 6 Rebounds
Game 5-5-12 12 Points and 12 Rebounds
Game 6-6-14 17 Points and 13 Rebounds and 9 Assists
Game 7-6-16 19 Points and 18 Rebounds

oldirtyku · Jun 19, 2010

oldirtyku said:
Like I asked earlier. Who deserved it more? Everyone on both teams had awful games. Both teams played great defense. Celtics lost so you can eliminate Boston players. Also they had different players step up in each game and no 1 dominated more then a game here or there...

BTW, I don't get why he was awful in game 6? He had 26 points on 47% shooting. He had 11 rebounds and 4 steals while holding Rondo to 5-15 shooting and 5 assists. All this against 1 of the best defenses in the NBA in the last 10+ years and against 1 of the top pgs in the league.

Sorry rondo had 5 rebounds and 6 assists.

bucsfan67 · Jun 19, 2010

I think it breaks down to he was the best player on the winning team.....MVP rarely ever goes to the losing team, so you take the best player on the winning team.....

Enfuego · Jun 19, 2010

oldirtyku said:
Like I asked earlier. Who deserved it more? Everyone on both teams had awful games. Both teams played great defense. Celtics lost so you can eliminate Boston players. Also they had different players step up in each game and no 1 dominated more then a game here or there...

BTW, I don't get why he was awful in game 6? He had 26 points on 47% shooting. He had 11 rebounds and 4 steals while holding Rondo to 5-15 shooting and 5 assists. All this against 1 of the best defenses in the NBA in the last 10+ years and against 1 of the top pgs in the league.

You're comparing a shooting guard like Kobe to R. Rondo? Of course K Bryant should handle him. He's a lot bigger and more athletic than a small PG. He should hold him to a low FG%.

Enfuego · Jun 19, 2010

bucsfan67 said:
I think it breaks down to he was the best player on the winning team.....MVP rarely ever goes to the losing team, so you take the best player on the winning team.....

Let's be honest though Bucs, he's on the same page but doesn't compare to MJ.

thekeyman · Jun 19, 2010

this thread is just about another kobe hater,no one else deserved it and he makes the whole team run.a mvp just isn't a guy who scores the most ,its also the guy who makes plays and gets others playing well around him.kobe is the real deal weather you like him or not,so get over it and deal with it.

oldirtyku · Jun 19, 2010

Enfuego said:
You're comparing a shooting guard like Kobe to R. Rondo? Of course K Bryant should handle him. He's a lot bigger and more athletic than a small PG. He should hold him to a low FG%.

Yes I am comparing the 2.. Rondo is a stud and is lightening quick and a hard cover. IMO, he was the best celtic player in the playoffs. Kobe had the honor of guarding him. BBall is both offense and defense.

Legend-I-Aint · Jun 19, 2010

thekeyman said:
this thread is just about another kobe hater,no one else deserved it and he makes the whole team run.a mvp just isn't a guy who scores the most ,its also the guy who makes plays and gets others playing well around him.kobe is the real deal weather you like him or not,so get over it and deal with it.

Kobe is a great player. Great player...but not in the same league as MJ.

Enfuego · Jun 19, 2010

oldirtyku said:
Yes I am comparing the 2.. Rondo is a stud and is lightening quick and a hard cover. IMO, he was the best celtic player in the playoffs. Kobe had the honor of guarding him. BBall is both offense and defense.

You can't be serious. Kobe is a one of the best defenders in the game and he's as quick as Rondo and much bigger. Of course K. Bryant should handle guarding Rondo. One guy is 6-1 while the other is 6-6. If he didn't handle Rondo, there'd be a problem.

Enfuego · Jun 19, 2010

thekeyman said:
this thread is just about another kobe hater,no one else deserved it and he makes the whole team run.a mvp just isn't a guy who scores the most ,its also the guy who makes plays and gets others playing well around him.kobe is the real deal weather you like him or not,so get over it and deal with it.

Not at all. Just dealing with the facts here. Your argument is perfect for naming Rondo the MVP.

doubledeuce22 · Jun 19, 2010

Enfuego said:
You can't be serious. Kobe is a one of the best defenders in the game and he's as quick as Rondo and much bigger. Of course K. Bryant should handle guarding Rondo. One guy is 6-1 while the other is 6-6. If he didn't handle Rondo, there'd be a problem.

funny, nobody handled him the entire eastern conference playoffs.

FearTheRaven · Jun 19, 2010

Rondo? he had about 1-2 good games in my opinion. People really need to stop saying he's the top PG in the league cause he's not.

doubledeuce22 · Jun 19, 2010

these anti-kobe arguments are getting stupid.

first off, no player from losing team is winning finals mvp, shouldn't even be brought up. imagine if celtics won and a laker got mvp? people would be outraged!

and what does kobe not being as good as mj have to do with him winning mvp? by that logic, they should have retired the finals mvp award in 1998, as nobody will ever be as good as mj.

also, mj won a finals mvp shooting 41% against a seattle team that isn't in the same stratosphere defensively as this celtic team

i'm a celtic fan, but you kobe haters gotta give it up. pretty pathetic that you will hate on a guy because he isn't as good as mj..... NOBODY IS! kobe busts his ass, plays and trains hard, and is ruthless about winning. good enough for me.

*edit, i know jerry west won mvp from losing team. that was 41 years ago and won't happen again....

doubledeuce22 · Jun 19, 2010

FearTheRaven said:
Rondo? he had about 1-2 good games in my opinion. People really need to stop saying he's the top PG in the league cause he's not.

nope. rondo talent off the charts, but as a true pg, not at the top. true pg's teams dont stand around and dribble for 20 seconds and settle for bad shots in the 4q with championships on the line.

oldirtyku · Jun 19, 2010

Enfuego said:
You can't be serious. Kobe is a one of the best defenders in the game and he's as quick as Rondo and much bigger. Of course K. Bryant should handle guarding Rondo. One guy is 6-1 while the other is 6-6. If he didn't handle Rondo, there'd be a problem.

The whole point is that no 1 in the playoffs accept kobe defended Rondo well. He did something no 1 in the east could do which was slow him down. Great defense helps you win MVPs.