Should a total be graded if it goes over even though the game didn't go 8.5 innings?

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should the over count if the game doesn't go the full 8.5+ innings?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 32.0%
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If the total is still under then you never know what can happen but if it goes over there is no reason to not grade it right?

(small advantage for over bettors if this happens....but same as overtime and extra innings....over bettors get small advantages here and there and lines adjust)
 

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as is, i guess under bettors can always do a rain dance after game goes over.....so you can still watch the game
 

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That's the rule. No 8.5 innings if the home team is ahead or no bet.
 

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only if the guys who bet under want to take a loss so i can pay you
 

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No. Canceling all bets on totals for games that are called early, is a long standing standard offshore rule.
 

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One of the all time great pushes for me.

Texas beats Oakland 17-8 (under 8.5) for me. A monsoon hits the OACC, and no bottom of the 9th.

Game was over in the 4th inning or so.
 

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if one were pretty sure that enough rain was coming
to make it highly unlikely that the game would get
8.5 innings in. then one could bet over with very little
risk if only over results would ever get graded.
thus the reason that the 8.5 innings+must be
played.
 

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FWIW, i understand the rule and I haven't really gotten screwed by this....

IMO I think a ML being called a winner/loser in the 7th inning is more suspect than cancelling an over that already hits....

I just feel the rule should be changed
 

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if one were pretty sure that enough rain was coming
to make it highly unlikely that the game would get
8.5 innings in. then one could bet over with very little
risk if only over results would ever get graded.
thus the reason that the 8.5 innings+must be
played.


This is the best answer I have heard thusfar....although I think those opportunities are too rare.....and like everything else, linesmakers aren't stupid and they will adjust (maybe raise the line a bit to make the over guys think twice in case the game finishes)
 

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One of the all time great pushes for me.

Texas beats Oakland 17-8 (under 8.5) for me. A monsoon hits the OACC, and no bottom of the 9th.

Game was over in the 4th inning or so.


I had an under in Colorado (playing the Giants if memory serves -- Rob Nen closing out the game). Game was over, two outs in the bottom of the ninth, two strikes on the batter ... and it starts pouring. Never got the last out, got a push.
 

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if one were pretty sure that enough rain was coming
to make it highly unlikely that the game would get
8.5 innings in. then one could bet over with very little
risk if only over results would ever get graded.
thus the reason that the 8.5 innings+must be
played.

Yes...Niltes knows his stuff. You could make a killing betting overs on bad weather games. Having a good meterologist in your corner would be priceless.
 

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Yes...Niltes knows his stuff. You could make a killing betting overs on bad weather games. Having a good meterologist in your corner would be priceless.

It has to be the way Steak Tartar says.....fine the over can win, but the under then has to lose.

This is actually more fair ( this time) as the correct side will win win this game, but what about if the game is 5-3 after 5 innings....it rains....do you want a loss on over 8.5 ? or even worse a 4-4 tie.

It kind of opens up another can of worms, eh ?

It's been this way forever, leave it be.

Vegas would have to initiate the change.
 

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sorry if I didn't make myself clear....my thought is

over bets s/b graded as wins
under bets s/b graded as losses

the only reason I think this will never happen is because everyone will complain when they expect to get bailed out of their losing ticket and find out rules have changed....might not be worth the headache.


just my opnion that if the over/under has been decided....finishing the game makes no difference.
 

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, but what about if the game is 5-3 after 5 innings....it rains....do you want a loss on over 8.5 ? or even worse a 4-4 tie.

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obv if the game hasn't gone over the total it should be graded as no action.
 

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i can tell you this with absolute certainty, if they only graded shortened
games with the over as a winner (if it went over), or no action (if the
total was still under); then the books would get killed as every sharp,
angle shooter, weather guy would just bet the overs very large and be essentially
on a free roll.
 

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i can tell you this with absolute certainty, if they only graded shortened
games with the over as a winner (if it went over), or no action (if the
total was still under); then the books would get killed as every sharp,
angle shooter, weather guy would just bet the overs very large and be essentially
on a free roll.

I will bet anyone here $100 (sorry i'm not a big high roller) that they cannot predict which games will be rained out (first pitch must be thrown obv). Maybe I'm naive but I'm thinking we are giving sharps too much credit....my fucking weatherman lets it rain on me when he says "ok to go golf tomorrow"....i doubt a degenerate can do this with absolute certainty and make a killing.

I will set the line at 6 out of 10 games (60%)....if they can predict 6 out of 10 then no action, if they do 5 I win and 7 they win.
 

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