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Wow... Dutch should have had 2 guys sent off already. Tackling very late and De Jongs tackle definitley deserved red.
 

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foulfest and quite boring first half as well
 

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The dutch dont deserve to win... Van Bommel should have been sent off about 5 times. Constantly fouling.
 

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Just like Puyol and Iniesta needed to be sent off. That game was ugly as hell and the ref was the worst of it...card happy, never got the game under control and lots of fucked up calls.
De Jong only gets a yellow card for that kung-fu kick, WTF. Iniesta bodychecks van Bommel 5-6m away from the ball, committing a revenge foul, ref sees it, whistles the play dead and Iniesta doesn't even receive a yellow card...
Puyol wrestling down Robben while being the last defender, Robben fighting to score not going down and that wrestling move gets the 2nd defender the chance to get a foot in so that Casillas can make the save...Puyol not being sent off and to top all that, Robben sees a yellow card for complaining.
In the end he robs NED of a crystal clear corner kick, when Sneijders free kick bounces off a defender AND Casillas touching the ball and on the next play Spain scores the winner (not even getting into the non-called foul on Elia, which starts the attack that lead to the goal)...

That championship game was a disgrace to soccer, it's a shame that such a ref gets to officiate such a game.
NED was overly aggressive, played a real ugly game, tough to watch and were lucky to have only one guy sent off.
But watching the Spaniards play makes me puke, too, because of at least 4-5 Spaniards besieging the ref after every single foul and trying to talk him into shwing a fucking card...

Last thing I'll say: If you watch that wrestling move by Puyol vs Robben and the result (no whistle, no red card against Puyol, no real scoring opportunity for NED), just because Robben didn't want to go down despite contact, nobody should be surprised to see all the fucked up flopping and diving in soccer since obviously as long as you don't go down (and act), you don't get any fouls called. ^<<^
 

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the above post is classic....it's been written by many authors, over many games, for DECADES

YET, after this tragic WC....NO CHANGES will be made to the rules of the game. The sport will stay as is

come back in 4 yrs and you'll get to read another post like Soriano's.....go to the soccer forums, their littered with these kinds of posts.


great sport, ain't it? :)
 

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i am as oranje as it gets....but de jong's version of ralph machio's crane kick would have gotten him red carded anywhere on the planet....if the idiot former COP known as dickhead howard webb would have called the game evenly both ways u wouldn't hear a word from me...but soriano is dead on....he is a disgrace to futbol and it's a sad day in the sport when he is recognized as the best fifa has to offer to ref the wc final.....
 

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if the idiot former COP known as dickhead howard webb would have called the game evenly both ways u wouldn't hear a word from me...
That might be the only positive thing someone might say about Webb: Both teams got more than enough breaks and fucked up calls against them or in their favor, wouldn't call it one-sided officiating by Webb...just constantly bad (and that is not remotely close to describing his "work").
 

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Just like Puyol and Iniesta needed to be sent off. That game was ugly as hell and the ref was the worst of it...card happy, never got the game under control and lots of fucked up calls.
De Jong only gets a yellow card for that kung-fu kick, WTF. Iniesta bodychecks van Bommel 5-6m away from the ball, committing a revenge foul, ref sees it, whistles the play dead and Iniesta doesn't even receive a yellow card...
Puyol wrestling down Robben while being the last defender, Robben fighting to score not going down and that wrestling move gets the 2nd defender the chance to get a foot in so that Casillas can make the save...Puyol not being sent off and to top all that, Robben sees a yellow card for complaining.
In the end he robs NED of a crystal clear corner kick, when Sneijders free kick bounces off a defender AND Casillas touching the ball and on the next play Spain scores the winner (not even getting into the non-called foul on Elia, which starts the attack that lead to the goal)...

That championship game was a disgrace to soccer, it's a shame that such a ref gets to officiate such a game.
NED was overly aggressive, played a real ugly game, tough to watch and were lucky to have only one guy sent off.
But watching the Spaniards play makes me puke, too, because of at least 4-5 Spaniards besieging the ref after every single foul and trying to talk him into shwing a fucking card...

Last thing I'll say: If you watch that wrestling move by Puyol vs Robben and the result (no whistle, no red card against Puyol, no real scoring opportunity for NED), just because Robben didn't want to go down despite contact, nobody should be surprised to see all the fucked up flopping and diving in soccer since obviously as long as you don't go down (and act), you don't get any fouls called. ^<<^

I'm glad you wrote this because I've complained enough about this tournament I didn't want to be labeled as such. You said quite a bit of what I would have posted. Maybe 4 years from now Germany will have more experience and will sweep this tournament but that may depend upon the officials.
 

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too difficult for one man to handle, ref effects soccer more than any other sport
 

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Yep spot on from all the posters. Ugliest final I've ever seen. Hopefully the next one in Brazil will be better.
 

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Soccer needs 3 or 4 refs on the field - not 1 plus a linesman.

There is no way the ref running (sprinting) 10-20 yards behind robben can see the foul. Thus the player has to fall down to have it called. If there was a ref in each penalty box plus one near midfield game would be called much much better.

1 ref is enough for 10 year olds. When you have world class sprinters playing, you can't have a 40 year old single ref calling things from 30 yards away.
 

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Soccer needs 3 or 4 refs on the field - not 1 plus a linesman.

There is no way the ref running (sprinting) 10-20 yards behind robben can see the foul. Thus the player has to fall down to have it called. If there was a ref in each penalty box plus one near midfield game would be called much much better.

1 ref is enough for 10 year olds. When you have world class sprinters playing, you can't have a 40 year old single ref calling things from 30 yards away.
good point about the ref having to sprint to position himself correctly...in the europa league this past year they tried out having linesman on the end lines also...thus giving the linesman more availability to the ref and their side of the pitch...makes sense...you think if they had those endline refs in yesterday they might have caught the missed corner kick at the end of overtime?
 

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you think if they had those endline refs in yesterday they might have caught the missed corner kick at the end of overtime?
There might be calls, where more refs would help making the right call, but that one was so blatantly obvious, it's still beyond me how someone could miss it...it's not like the ball graced someone and went out of bounds. The ball sliced to the right, until it hit the Spaniard and changed directions...it went off in a 45 degree angle, so that even Stevie Wonder should have noticed the ball changing directions :ohno:


The foul by Puyol should have been seen by the ref and even more by the linesman, clear view and great position for the linesman to make the call.
 

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Soccer needs 3 or 4 refs on the field - not 1 plus a linesman.

There is no way the ref running (sprinting) 10-20 yards behind robben can see the foul. Thus the player has to fall down to have it called. If there was a ref in each penalty box plus one near midfield game would be called much much better.

1 ref is enough for 10 year olds. When you have world class sprinters playing, you can't have a 40 year old single ref calling things from 30 yards away.

good grief mate, that's way too much common sense for the soccer folks...they love the way it is, this way, they can dispute/debate the game with friends following the match....they will argue for yrs, 'ya, but if it weren't for the Hand of God, we would have won then'.....etc etc etc...

soccer anyone?

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Problem is the linesmen very rarely call fouls unless the foul happens right next to them.

There is no way the ref from behind could see Puyols foul Robben - he'd have to be able to see through him... And the linesman -they never make calls 30 yards from them.

The NBA gets it (as crooked as the league is) - 99% of the action happens within 10 feet of the basket. Put one ref on each baseline.

In soccer I would venture that 90% of the goals happen from within 25 yards of the goal - common sense would put one ref in each penalty box or in or even better on top of the goal.
 

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Just like Puyol and Iniesta needed to be sent off. That game was ugly as hell and the ref was the worst of it...card happy, never got the game under control and lots of fucked up calls.
De Jong only gets a yellow card for that kung-fu kick, WTF. Iniesta bodychecks van Bommel 5-6m away from the ball, committing a revenge foul, ref sees it, whistles the play dead and Iniesta doesn't even receive a yellow card...
Puyol wrestling down Robben while being the last defender, Robben fighting to score not going down and that wrestling move gets the 2nd defender the chance to get a foot in so that Casillas can make the save...Puyol not being sent off and to top all that, Robben sees a yellow card for complaining.
In the end he robs NED of a crystal clear corner kick, when Sneijders free kick bounces off a defender AND Casillas touching the ball and on the next play Spain scores the winner (not even getting into the non-called foul on Elia, which starts the attack that lead to the goal)...

That championship game was a disgrace to soccer, it's a shame that such a ref gets to officiate such a game.
NED was overly aggressive, played a real ugly game, tough to watch and were lucky to have only one guy sent off.
But watching the Spaniards play makes me puke, too, because of at least 4-5 Spaniards besieging the ref after every single foul and trying to talk him into shwing a fucking card...

Last thing I'll say: If you watch that wrestling move by Puyol vs Robben and the result (no whistle, no red card against Puyol, no real scoring opportunity for NED), just because Robben didn't want to go down despite contact, nobody should be surprised to see all the fucked up flopping and diving in soccer since obviously as long as you don't go down (and act), you don't get any fouls called. ^<<^

Easy to decipher who you were supporting. lol. Iniesta should have been sent off...are you serious!!! Might as well point out that Robben blatantly kicked the ball away after being called offside. Usually ends up with a yellow card, which would have been his second, but Mr Webb let that one slide as well. At the end of the day Holland should of been down to 9 men at half time before Puyol's foul and Iniesta's alleged revenge push. Van Bommel has been the dirtiest fucker in the tournament and he got away with virtually everything. Better team won, end of story.
 
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