Done with unemployment, time for poker.

TheRightSide · Jul 22, 2010

F@@@CK it its time to give it a true shot. I am going to start playing poker a whole lot more. I am not going to depend on unemployment and this current extension that went through. When little Clayton starts going to daycare 3 times a week I am going to play all those days. I have 4 casinos all 20 mins away and there are many many charity poker rooms here.

I have given this plenty of thought. I am a little underrolled for this. But I have a stash of cash and I feel its time to start feeling like I am doing something to contribute.

I know that I can play. But the variance is what I need to deal with. I hate bad beat stories. I never go on tilt.
I don't get bored and play a hand I should not. I can fold every hand for 2 hrs if need be. I like cash games for this reason.

I think the biggest things for any gambler is honesty with himself. I have already told you guys I suck so bad at sportsbetting I was never on TheRightSide"

I will post results as I go to keep me honest. So maybe I can bring some eyes to the poker forum.

Any advice would be great. Flame away.

shdw01 · Jul 22, 2010

what games u gonna play?

TheRightSide · Jul 22, 2010

1-2 nlhe. 100-300 buy in

Enfuego · Jul 22, 2010

TheRightSide said:
F@@@CK it its time to give it a true shot. I am going to start playing poker a whole lot more. I am not going to depend on unemployment and this current extension that went through. When little Clayton starts going to daycare 3 times a week I am going to play all those days. I have 4 casinos all 20 mins away and there are many many charity poker rooms here.

I have given this plenty of thought. I am a little underrolled for this. But I have a stash of cash and I feel its time to start feeling like I am doing something to contribute.

I know that I can play. But the variance is what I need to deal with. I hate bad beat stories. I never go on tilt.
I don't get bored and play a hand I should not. I can fold every hand for 2 hrs if need be. I like cash games for this reason.

I think the biggest things for any gambler is honesty with himself. I have already told you guys I suck so bad at sportsbetting I was never on TheRightSide"

I will post results as I go to keep me honest. So maybe I can bring some eyes to the poker forum.

Any advice would be great. Flame away.

Maybe it's just me but if I'm at home (especially unemployed) then my kids stay with me. One, you don't need to be paying for daycare and two, I'd feel like a real douchebag father if I'm home watching TV while my kid is at daycare. I'd need to be hanging out with them. No offense at all....that's just me.

GreenDoberman · Jul 22, 2010

TRS,
Honestly I think you are making a big mistake but realize I would not ever be able to talk you out of it.

I can only wish you luck and be around for any advice or help you may need.

GD

doubledeuce22 · Jul 22, 2010

1-2 NL at the casinos can make you some cash. was watching my friend play last night, and some of the shit i saw guys call/bet with, anyone with half a brain could make a couple hundred a night.

GL with this. Just remember that if you are doing this for income, you HAVE to leave up money when you can,.

TheRightSide · Jul 22, 2010

Enfuego said:
Maybe it's just me but if I'm at home (especially unemployed) then my kids stay with me. One, you don't need to be paying for daycare and two, I'd feel like a real douchebag father if I'm home watching TV while my kid is at daycare. I'd need to be hanging out with them. No offense at all....that's just me.

Well for one its not my child. It's my nephews kid that we are watching while he going to the Middle East.
I am not paying for daycare. Claytons Dad is paying. Clayton's Dad wants him to go 3 times a week so he can learn to interact with others.

TheRightSide · Jul 22, 2010

GreenDoberman said:
TRS,
Honestly I think you are making a big mistake but realize I would not ever be able to talk you out of it.

I can only wish you luck and be around for any advice or help you may need.

GD

Green getting any info from you would be great. I know you know what the hell you are talking about. I just need to start to figure shit out and do something. I have tried and tried to find a job. I will continue looking.

So anything you think I need to know or do would be great.

GreenDoberman · Jul 22, 2010

TheRightSide said:
Green getting any info from you would be great. I know you know what the hell you are talking about. I just need to start to figure shit out and do something. I have tried and tried to find a job. I will continue looking.

So anything you think I need to know or do would be great.

TRS,
Talked to you many times online and agreed/disagreed. For some reason we never met up in Vegas, but like I said would be happy to help with any poker or gambling related questions.

I'd be careful putting all my eggs in one basket, especially gambling, but have been there/done that and can probably give some useful advice and/or cautionary tales.

GreenDoberman · Jul 22, 2010

btw, if you don't have my email it is my screen name at gmail.com

Enfuego · Jul 22, 2010

TheRightSide said:
Well for one its not my child. It's my nephews kid that we are watching while he going to the Middle East.
I am not paying for daycare. Claytons Dad is paying. Clayton's Dad wants him to go 3 times a week so he can learn to interact with others.

I forgot about the Middle East story. My fault.

Can't stand parents that fuck off at home all day and let a stranger watch their kid while they piss away their relationship.

ProPokerPlayer · Jul 22, 2010

You'll do fine if u dont tilt easily and can fold for 2 hours.
The thing with making money at these live games is not playing your cards but the people.

The regulars will have tells that a patient guy can figure out in a few weeks of playing with them...Betting patterns, etc.

But your real money will be made waiting for opportunities to take the money being given away by people who shouldnt even be in the game.....at smaller card rooms you play 4 or 5 days and only get 3 or 4 of these people in those games.....you need to actively pursue hands versus these guys and stay away from 50/50 gambling with the regulars.

If you can fold for 6 hours in order to play 4 hands against a fish with a lot of money on the table you will be profitable.....If you want to run ur AK vs a regulars 88 for all ur chips 5 times a day you'll be at the mercy of Variance.....and i dont know about you but Variance hates me like a motherfucker...

SoCal · Jul 22, 2010

ProPokerPlayer said:
.....If you want to run ur AK vs a regulars 88 for all ur chips 5 times a day you'll be at the mercy of Variance.....and i dont know about you but Variance hates me like a motherfucker...

well put... pretty tough to fold QQ when you know the other guy is holding AK and he's looking to gamble. Seems like those hands are 50/50... not worth the time. but if you have fish that come in and are looking to get their money in play... welll, then that's worthwhile... gotta pick your prime times for fish

TheRightSide · Jul 23, 2010

I am not interested in 50/50 shots. Very few times I will "gamble".
Like a good example is when people get down to say $45 or so and they always just seem to throw the money in preflop and just give it away.
I just never understood tilting. win or lose to go on tilt and use that as an excuse is just stupid.
I read 2plus2 all the time and all the losers always say "I would be great but a bad beat gets me on tilt and I go crazy" Tilt + moronic loser that will always be a loser.

GB - thanks man will email and pick your brain inthe next week. I wish I would have found you when I was there for a week a few years ago. I have questions but will leave that for the emails.

PPP Yes I can fold but if you recall from anyone asking for advice in the poker forum and I always always say postiion postiion postiion. I will play small A's and connectors from good position. Or call from the blinds if the money is right.

I am an ABC player I see people try to make moves all the time just to stroke thier ego. At a 1-2 table there is no need to be "clever" I'll tell ya about a hand last month.

I folded a A,Kh's after the flop with 2 h's. me and 2 other guys were in it. I was 1st to act and wanted to C/raise next guy bets like 18 or so next guy goes all in for like 110 total. I folded and showed the guy next to me just to show how tight I am. turns out next guy called and one had K's and the other had a set of J's that turned into a fullhouse. I hate to "gamble" when I and a flip at best. I even told them what I had and they all thought I was nuts for folding that. Payed off later as I picked up pots when I was only holding a busted draw. The last time I made that bluff I showed them what I had and said I did all night to them just bye showing that I would fold.. Picked my chips up and went to cash in.
Poker is nothing but a story. Either you tell a good story of people see right through you. I like to think I am a good story teller.

CujoLatte · Jul 23, 2010

"I folded a A,Kh's after the flop with 2 h's. me and 2 other guys were in it. I was 1st to act and wanted to C/raise next guy bets like 18 or so next guy goes all in for like 110 total. I folded and showed the guy next to me just to show how tight I am. turns out next guy called and one had K's and the other had a set of J's that turned into a fullhouse. I hate to "gamble" when I and a flip at best. I even told them what I had and they all thought I was nuts for folding that. Payed off later as I picked up pots when I was only holding a busted draw. The last time I made that bluff I showed them what I had and said I did all night to them just bye showing that I would fold.. Picked my chips up and went to cash in.
Poker is nothing but a story. Either you tell a good story of people see right through you. I like to think I am a good story teller."

You might have to play a bit less tight .... hehe

Ah Kh = 47.84% Kc Ks = 50.50% Jd Jc = .66%

with 7h 3h 4s flop

The KK only has a 2.5% of taking the pot

scanz · Jul 23, 2010

Win Clayton some money!!!!!!!!!

TheRightSide · Jul 23, 2010

LOL I made this thread late.

OK to be clear on this. I don't need to grind out 100,000 a year with this. My wife is employed with a pretty good job. Even when I was collecting unemployment we were saving money each month. The goal would be to do 300-500 a week to start. Now this doesn't mean I would just get up and leave a juicy table if I got up 500. This means I would just look at it as one long session per week.

I will not be playing poker because I have fun doing it. Although I do enjoy it. I will look at it as a part time job. I will prepare myself for the work day and get the mind right. Hard to play poker and concentrate when you are not focussed. Like I said I don't often get my money in bad. 50/50 shots are terrible for a grinder and ok for the guy just having fun and playing poker like they see on TV. BTW I have been playing poker since I was 12. That same Grandfather that took me to the track started taking my pennies at an early age. LOL God do I mis him. He would love all this new gambling.

Enfuego I agree with you on people taking car of thier kids.

CujoLatte · Jul 23, 2010

I have an app on my blackberry that calculates poker odds for up to 6 people. I can make the players cards and the flop and turn any card I want. Thing is unreal! I sat in a plane to Pasadena yesterday just studying odds for 3 hours lol.
RightSide if you can get one of these for your Blackbery or iphone get it! The $2.99 is well worth it. I've been studying odds for a while now and it helps. I love when one I studied lays out in front of me live!

!~))!

TheRightSide · Jul 23, 2010

CujoLatte said:
"I folded a A,Kh's after the flop with 2 h's. me and 2 other guys were in it. I was 1st to act and wanted to C/raise next guy bets like 18 or so next guy goes all in for like 110 total. I folded and showed the guy next to me just to show how tight I am. turns out next guy called and one had K's and the other had a set of J's that turned into a fullhouse. I hate to "gamble" when I and a flip at best. I even told them what I had and they all thought I was nuts for folding that. Payed off later as I picked up pots when I was only holding a busted draw. The last time I made that bluff I showed them what I had and said I did all night to them just bye showing that I would fold.. Picked my chips up and went to cash in.
Poker is nothing but a story. Either you tell a good story of people see right through you. I like to think I am a good story teller."

You might have to play a bit less tight .... hehe

Ah Kh = 47.84% Kc Ks = 50.50% Jd Jc = .66%

with 7h 3h 4s flop

The KK only has a 2.5% of taking the pot

He flopped a set of J's. I played with him before and know he doesn't fuck around. I was beat no doubt in my mind. I didn't have a big stack so I saw no need to put it in bad.

bigbet1234 · Jul 23, 2010

My advice, don't play for a "goal" amount to make. Becuase when you go weeks without making it, it may change your play.

Have a set amount of time per sesson/week you are going to play. And STICK to it, up or down. Reinvest in your bankroll taking very little if any out for quite sometime.

Look for other offers at the casino's for extra EV. Sign up for players cards at all 4. Find a decent VP game, put in a little action and wait for the mailers of free cash.

It would be fairly easy to grind out $100 a day if you combine all types of advantage play and stay disaplined.