Chris Paul Trying To Force Trade To Team With Dwight Howard In Orlando

HacheMan · Jul 24, 2010

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=subHead vAlign=top colSpan=3>Orlando Magic now at top of Chris Paul's list </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=vaLabel colSpan=3>Chris Paul - G - NO - Jul. 24</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=3>The Orlando Magic have replaced the New York Knicks as Chris Paul's first choice if he can get himself traded out of New Orleans.
Paul wants to play with Dwight Howard, according to sources, while it also doesn't hurt that the Magic have more to offer New Orleans in a trade, making a deal more realistic. Paul is under contract for two more seasons, meaning the Hornets don't have to move him. But Paul, since joining forces with LeBron James' marketing company, seems determined to try to get out of New Orleans before the start of the season. New York, Portland and Dallas are also still on Paul's short list of preferred teams.
Source: ESPN.com

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HacheMan · Jul 24, 2010

I know he's an upgrade over Jameer Nelson, but I don't think enough to make that big of a difference.

The Magic need help other than point guard to take a step forward...

CarolinaKid · Jul 24, 2010

Still not sure if i like this guy or not.He has the C P thing in winston salem nc each yr and get all his basketball buddies to fly in for it.He has Roll royces rented from high pt to carry his buddies around until they leave......Met the guy a few times and the jury is still out on him with me......ck

auggiedawg · Jul 24, 2010

Im a big magic fan, and i really like jameer nelson. Hope he doesnt come to orlando and end up screwing nelson to somewhere else. That would suck. Nelson is pretty damn solid. Their team is pretty good where it stands.....well, except the vince carter collapse at times in the playoffs.

Hache Man said:
I know he's an upgrade over Jameer Nelson, but I don't think enough to make that big of a difference.

The Magic need help other than point guard to take a step forward...

M.Saracen · Jul 24, 2010

I don't like it. As a Magic fan, I'd much prefer keeping Nelson over the cheapshot artist Paul. Better leader, better character, and just as good from 3. Paul and his ball-punching ways need to stay in a losing sports town.

Magic need to dump Vince Carter and pick up a real 2-guard, then they'll be set.

More playing time for Brandon Bass at the 4 too...

SwiftyJ · Jul 24, 2010

i would like to see paul leave, just to give the heat some more competition in the east. right now the biggest threat to them is magics and then the bulls.

RobFunk · Jul 24, 2010

This whole thing has not been pretty for CP3. He was seen as local hero and an icon for N.O. and now his whining about a trade has made him look awful.

He should hope a trade happens because his N.O. fans can't be exactly too pleased right now.

D2bets · Jul 24, 2010

Hache Man said:
<TABLE width="100%" align=center><TBODY><TR><TD class=vaLabel vAlign=top rowSpan=5 width=100 align=middle> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=subHead vAlign=top colSpan=3>Orlando Magic now at top of Chris Paul's list </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD class=vaLabel colSpan=3>Chris Paul - G - NO - Jul. 24</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=3>The Orlando Magic have replaced the New York Knicks as Chris Paul's first choice if he can get himself traded out of New Orleans.
Paul wants to play with Dwight Howard, according to sources, while it also doesn't hurt that the Magic have more to offer New Orleans in a trade, making a deal more realistic. Paul is under contract for two more seasons, meaning the Hornets don't have to move him. But Paul, since joining forces with LeBron James' marketing company, seems determined to try to get out of New Orleans before the start of the season. New York, Portland and Dallas are also still on Paul's short list of preferred teams.
Source: ESPN.com

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Who are they referring to in terms of having something to offer? What would it look like?

PatsFan1283 · Jul 24, 2010

Chris Paul owns Jameer Nelson. Badly....

Chris Paul owns Rondo (I'm a Celtics fan)

Only PG comparable to Chris Paul is Deron Williams. You Magic fans would be LUCKY to have a CP3/DHoward combo and if you think your beating Miami Thrice any other way then your nuts.

Wow, some people either don't follow the NBA or are just on stone morons. 3 Magic fans in this thread and they all prefer Jameer Nelson to CP3. You can't make this stuff up. Did you not see the Celtics own you last year? You need to improve.

HacheMan · Jul 24, 2010

PatsFan1283 said:
Chris Paul owns Jameer Nelson. Badly....

Chris Paul owns Rondo (I'm a Celtics fan)

Only PG comparable to Chris Paul is Deron Williams. You Magic fans would be LUCKY to have a CP3/DHoward combo and if you think your beating Miami Thrice any other way then your nuts.

Wow, some people either don't follow the NBA or are just on stone morons. 3 Magic fans in this thread and they all prefer Jameer Nelson to CP3. You can't make this stuff up. Did you not see the Celtics own you last year? You need to improve.

Looking back over this thread I can tell you that everyone who replied knows the NBA very well.

As for the ones suggesting they don't need Paul, we're not morons, and we know our team and our team needs, and point guard is not one of them.

Point guard is not one of our needs, and most of our points is that even though Chris Paul is an upgrade over Jameer Nelson, it's not enough of an upgrade to make that big of a difference.

If we're willing to work or agree to a trade for Paul, then we should have been busier trying to land Bosh or Stoudemire that could have REALLY helped our team.

Either way the Magic have a lot to offer in trade.
Hopefully Rashard Lewis who has become a lazy bum since he arrived & likes to just camp out behind the 3point line the whole game will be included in any trades.

Oh, and by the way, Chris Paul looks like he may end up being one of those players who are sitting the sidelines injured more than he's actually on the court...

RidgeRider · Jul 24, 2010

Because Orlando can't upgrade at any other position and Vince Carter is a mess in crunch time acquiring Chris Paul would be a significant upgrade over Jamir Nelson. Would they beat the Miami Heat? no, but they'd be better than the Celtics and about equal to the Bulls.

barman · Jul 24, 2010

PatsFan1283 said:
Chris Paul owns Jameer Nelson. Badly....

Chris Paul owns Rondo (I'm a Celtics fan)

Only PG comparable to Chris Paul is Deron Williams. You Magic fans would be LUCKY to have a CP3/DHoward combo and if you think your beating Miami Thrice any other way then your nuts.

While I don't share your denouncement of other Rx posters in this thread, as a fan of the OMagic, I heartily agree that CP would be a significant upgrade for the Magic if he were to replace J Nelson.

They've played almost same number of games in career and CP is 7pts and 5asts per game better...Not to mention he'll get 100+ more steals per year than JN. Their respective shooting percentages from all ranges are also almost identical

PatsFan1283 · Jul 24, 2010

The little denouncement was more of a joke, like an expression of fake outrage. It wasn't anything serious.

Although I am pretty adamant Chris Paul is way better than Jameer Nelson. And if you don't think getting one of the top 6-10 players in the NBA for a guy who is nothing more than a shoot first undersized PG that doesn't make his teammates better would significantly increase the Magic's chances to win the title, you're nuts. Jameer Nelson? Rondo chewed him up and spit him out. Any elite PG will.

You guys aren't even close to winning it all without CP3, the Celts nearly swept you last year without HC. You have no elite perimeter creators and your offense is going to stagnate against any good defensive team in the playoffs.

CPaul was getting TChandler layups in New Orleans all day, imagine him with DHoward? I doubt you guys would beat Miami Thrice still but your chances would go up A LOT and you'd be that much closer with a few more moves.

PatsFan1283 · Jul 24, 2010

Hache Man said:
Looking back over this thread I can tell you that everyone who replied knows the NBA very well.

As for the ones suggesting they don't need Paul, we're not morons, and we know our team and our team needs, and point guard is not one of them.

Point guard is not one of our needs, and most of our points is that even though Chris Paul is an upgrade over Jameer Nelson, it's not enough of an upgrade to make that big of a difference.

If we're willing to work or agree to a trade for Paul, then we should have been busier trying to land Bosh or Stoudemire that could have REALLY helped our team.

Either way the Magic have a lot to offer in trade.
Hopefully Rashard Lewis who has become a lazy bum since he arrived & likes to just camp out behind the 3point line the whole game will be included in any trades.

Oh, and by the way, Chris Paul looks like he may end up being one of those players who are sitting the sidelines injured more than he's actually on the court...

The reason you can maybe get CP3 is cause you'll be taking back some big contracts to do so, whereas with Bosh/Amare that wasn't really possible.

Rashard Lewis makes like 22mill a year, he isn't going anywhere.

The fact you took a swipe at Chris Paul's durability in what is basically an argument about him vs Jameer Nelson is pretty funny. You want to bet who plays more games out of them two over the next 3-4 years? JNelson is always hurt. Nelson is OK, he's a solid roleplayer but he can't guard anyone and he's an average passer. Really good scorer/jump shooter, thats about it.

I don't like the pieces around Paul/Howard in Orl really but given a few more years I think Orl would become elite and compete with Miami Thrice.

HacheMan · Jul 24, 2010

Again......We all know Paul is an upgrade over Jameer & that's not the debate.
All I said originally was that point guard is not where the Magic need help THE MOST.

A shooting guard or small forward who can get to hole and score in crunch time, which Vince Carter was supposed to be, and what Rashard Lewis used to be before he got lazy, or a solid power forward, would make much more of a difference.

And that Magic did have A LOT to offer in trades or sign & trades, but Otis Smith has stated here locally that he still believes Orlando has the squad to win a championship.
He's wrong.

Orlando has a large group of players to choose from in in Rashard Lewis, Jameer Nelson, JJ Redick, Brandon Bass, Vince Carter, Ryan Anderson, Mickael Pietrus, Marcin Gorat, in which they could have created a package of 2-3 to try and land one of the top free agents, preferably Chris Bosh in which Tornto was looking for a sign & trade in which they wouldn't lose Bosh for absolutely nothing in return and would have loved to have a couple of those named above.

PatsFan1283 · Jul 24, 2010

Hache Man said:
Again......We all know Paul is an upgrade over Jameer & that's not the debate.
All I said originally was that point guard is not where the Magic need help THE MOST.

A shooting guard or small forward who can get to hole and score in crunch time, which Vince Carter was supposed to be, and what Rashard Lewis used to be before he got lazy, or a solid power forward, would make much more of a difference.

And that Magic did have A LOT to offer in trades or sign & trades, but Otis Smith has stated here locally that he still believes Orlando has the squad to win a championship.
He's wrong.

Orlando has a large group of players to choose from in in Rashard Lewis, Jameer Nelson, JJ Redick, Brandon Bass, Vince Carter, Ryan Anderson, Mickael Pietrus, Marcin Gorat, in which they could have created a package of 2-3 to try and land one of the top free agents, preferably Chris Bosh in which Tornto was looking for a sign & trade in which they wouldn't lose Bosh for absolutely nothing in return and would have loved to have a couple of those named above.

Orlando could never get Bosh, he never wanted to go there. Doesn't matter what Toronto wanted in return for him, he controlled that process.

As far as not NEEDING Chris Paul. Yes you do need Chris Paul, Chris Paul is the best available player in the NBA right now and 1 of the top 7-10 guys in the league. You mean the Magic don't need a 2nd legit All-Star to go with Howard? Of course they do. Every team could use an All-Star. He is way better than JNelson and would represent a huge upgrade. Not just a slight upgrade like you say (or no upgrade like the other two said)

You know what the Magic need? Talent, A superstar...Thats what CP3 is.

I guess your point was the Magic could use Wade, LeBron or Durant over CP3? Uh I agree, I guess.

D2bets · Jul 24, 2010

Hache Man said:
Again......We all know Paul is an upgrade over Jameer & that's not the debate.
All I said originally was that point guard is not where the Magic need help THE MOST.

A shooting guard or small forward who can get to hole and score in crunch time, which Vince Carter was supposed to be, and what Rashard Lewis used to be before he got lazy, or a solid power forward, would make much more of a difference.

And that Magic did have A LOT to offer in trades or sign & trades, but Otis Smith has stated here locally that he still believes Orlando has the squad to win a championship.
He's wrong.

Orlando has a large group of players to choose from in in Rashard Lewis, Jameer Nelson, JJ Redick, Brandon Bass, Vince Carter, Ryan Anderson, Mickael Pietrus, Marcin Gorat, in which they could have created a package of 2-3 to try and land one of the top free agents, preferably Chris Bosh in which Tornto was looking for a sign & trade in which they wouldn't lose Bosh for absolutely nothing in return and would have loved to have a couple of those named above.

I'm not seeing it...
Lewis is old with a hue contract
Redick was just signed to a bloated contract
Carter is old with a huge contract
Bass, Anderson, Pietrus, Gortat? Just not seeing that much.
Nelson would be one chip in return and they'd have to toss in a boatload of picks.

2PLAYSMAX · Jul 24, 2010

Pretty obvious Lebron started a fire with this guy. They had dreams of playing on the same squad, but that was squashed early in the offseason. Now Paul feels he just has to make a move.

Enfuego · Jul 24, 2010

M.Saracen said:
I don't like it. As a Magic fan, I'd much prefer keeping Nelson over the cheapshot artist Paul. Better leader, better character, and just as good from 3. Paul and his ball-punching ways need to stay in a losing sports town.

Magic need to dump Vince Carter and pick up a real 2-guard, then they'll be set.

More playing time for Brandon Bass at the 4 too...

Good god. You'd take Nelson over Paul? Paul is Perhaps the best PG in the NBA. Are you on drugs tonight?

PatsFan1283 · Jul 24, 2010

Enfuego said:
Good god. You'd take Nelson over Paul? Paul is Perhaps the best PG in the NBA. Are you on drugs tonight?

That was my thoughts exactly and people were thinking I'm nuts saying Magic don't need a PG. Yeah true they don't need 1 of the top 7-10 guys in the world. Who needs that?

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