This is Why, Sometimes You Need to Bet Overnight Lines ...... ( Getting the Best Number )

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I Posted this in the RX Tracking Forum EARLY this Morning.

These were the Wagers I made at that time.

Look at the ML that I Posted for Each Play, Now look at the Current Lines

Baseball - 955 Philadelphia Phillies -154 for Game ( 2 Units ) $308/ $200

Baseball - 954 New York Mets -152 for Game ( 2 Units ) $304/$200

Baseball - 951 Atlanta Braves -114 for Game ( 2 Units ) $228/$200

Baseball - 971 New York Yankees -139 for Game ( 2 Units ) $278/$200

Baseball - 963 Florida Marlins/San Diego Padres under 6½ -115 for Game ( 2 Units ) $230/$200
 

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for those who dont know, our sponsor 5dimes has nickel overnite lines (5 cent spread) with max $500.
 
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Not saying anything about Winning or Losing the Bet...But the Name of the Game should be Getting the Best Number.

Baseball - 955 Philadelphia Phillies -154 ( Now 167-180 ) Saved 13 cents or More

Baseball - 954 New York Mets -152 ( Now 171-180 ) Saved 19 cents & Up

Baseball - 951 Atlanta Braves -114 for Game ( Now 117-134 ) Saved 3 cents & Up

Baseball - 971 New York Yankees -139 for Game ( No Saving, as line is dipping down ) around 130's

Baseball - 963 Florida Marlins/San Diego Padres under 6½ -115 for Game
No savings on $$ ( But have a Free Half a point ) Just saves me if it lands on 6
 

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Mike ....I see your point ....but keep in mind you don't have line ups @ that time .
Sundays seem to be a day were managers tend to sit some starters .......bol on your plays .
 
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Mike ....I see your point ....but keep in mind you don't have line ups @ that time .
Sundays seem to be a day were managers tend to sit some starters .......bol on your plays .


If You Don't have a Book that Doesn't have Overnight Lines Up, It's time to Find one that Does ! IMHO
 

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I agree....but for U.S players trying to get a decent amount on MLB overnights in dimeline books is very limited.

personally i only use 5dimes & Betjam...Do you have any other recommendations?

Thanks
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I agree....but for U.S players trying to get a decent amount on MLB overnights in dimeline books is very limited.

personally i only use 5dimes & Betjam...Do you have any other recommendations?

Thanks
MV


Betonline.com will let you bet Overnight. Not sure what their Limits are, but I will find out.
I know you can bet $100's, not sure about $1000's
 

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I'm not a fan of betting overnight sides on Sundays because many players sit today. Now UNDERS are a different story.
 

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Betting early is key. Getting that extra 5% payout or sometimes 10% is the difference between being in the black or red for a good capper. I don't do overnights, but I'm at my book first thing in the morning at 8am. The earlier the better.
 

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Betting early is key. Getting that extra 5% payout or sometimes 10% is the difference between being in the black or red for a good capper. I don't do overnights, but I'm at my book first thing in the morning at 8am. The earlier the better.

Only if you know the lineup in baseball.
 

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Only if you know the lineup in baseball.
or if you're good at following line movements at sharp books. This is just my opinion. If you already have a lean on a game maybe only pull the trigger on it if you see it at a 5% discount at another book.
 

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I meant team "line ups " ..........as in who is playing that day .

Great point Douglas. If you're not paying attention to who may be out of the lineup for a particular game you'll easily dig a hole for yourself. It means so much in baseball and imo the major line moves don't occur until the lineups are submitted. NFL is a different story, Thursday or Friday you can get a better number than minutes before kickoff on Sunday no doubt about it.
 

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Yeah the Braves sat Chipper and Prado

Total went down right away.

Yankees sat A-rod

Sundays gotta keep an eye.
 

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Not saying anything about Winning or Losing the Bet...But the Name of the Game should be Getting the Best Number.

Baseball - 955 Philadelphia Phillies -154 ( Now 167-180 ) Saved 13 cents or More

Baseball - 954 New York Mets -152 ( Now 171-180 ) Saved 19 cents & Up

Baseball - 951 Atlanta Braves -114 for Game ( Now 117-134 ) Saved 3 cents & Up

Baseball - 971 New York Yankees -139 for Game ( No Saving, as line is dipping down ) around 130's

Baseball - 963 Florida Marlins/San Diego Padres under 6½ -115 for Game
No savings on $$ ( But have a Free Half a point ) Just saves me if it lands on 6

You don't have to say anything about winning or losing. If you can do what you did consistently you WILL win. Also what a lot don't realize is sometimes 20 cent overnights at greek and cris are better than 10 cent lines at say.,,,grande or catalina that put line out really late. Everybody has this perception that if a book deals 20 cent bases they want even look at it. If they have the best number what does it matter if its 20 cent line. just my opinon.
 

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Mike ....I see your point ....but keep in mind you don't have line ups @ that time .
Sundays seem to be a day were managers tend to sit some starters .......bol on your plays .

From the way his games moved, it looks like not having the line ups did not hurt him too much.
 

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I hear ya BAS. I coudln't agree with you more.

I had a great card last night as I played CWS -141, Hoston +126, Atlanta -111, TB +130, LA Dodgers +113, LAA +124. My bad one was really bad with the Nats +147 but I think the anti-sweep crowd moved that one against me. I should have been paying more attention to that. Half of these were offers made late last night at Matchbook right before I went to bed.

Results wise I had one of my best days of the year today but none of that had anything to with the actual games today. It's a long term thing with these plays. This has to be the way one thinks with baseball but most times people just don't think this way espeically in a moneyline sport like bases but you just have to be patient and know that the long term it will all add up.

Best example I can give is I am having a great baseball season for my standards; winning in the 3-4% range which is double my overall win rate in all sports, so that is huge (hope I am not jinxing myself, knock wood, LOL). The problem is these results/numbers don't start to fall into place for me till until about 2,000 total bets are placed which is where I hit lately and now things have fallen nicely into place for me (knock on wood again). So the first few months when I was consistently making good bets and seeing non favorable results I got very frustrated but I hung in there because I rememebr the exact same thing happening lto me ast year during baseball season and now as we hit August everything is right in line with my last baseball season results. It's just variance and it can be a sports bettors worst enemy and that is why I am being so cautious with how I am saying this, LOL. I have been there way too many times with baseball but eventually it smoothes out.

I don't believe this enough myself but baseball is the easiest of the 3 major sports to beat if you can just hang on for the wild ride. This is hands down or maybe college hoops. The reason its the easiest is the volume becomes your friend at the end of this as it eventually takes the luck out (that is if you are playing with an edge). Sounds crazy but it is the #1 thing I have learned in the past 2 years. Sure we all love fotball season, the wekend, etc.. me included for that matter but give me a full season of baseball and for my time spent, my money won, etc.... its just way more advantageous for me to bet baseball. In fact football is probably the hardest to have a winning season for this very reason, not enough volume unless you make more volume.

Easiest way to explain all of this is for every $10 I bet I win $3-4 during baseball season, which doesn't sound like much but after hundreds of bets and thousands of bets it really can add up. I think the best statement of how important this is I will say no doubt in my man without betting early and getting a good price books there is no way I would win betting basebal, absolutely no way possibile. I don't know how anyone does it against widely availibile numbers. I can't believe LONGTERM wise it can be doen unless you are in dozens of books and finding lines better then Pinny and MB but that isnt easy with bases espeically.

In fact if someone asked me to sum up what I do and why I have won in 1 sentence. Without hesisation I would say "because I bet early". You name the sport and that is why but keep in mind you have to also know which is the right side and where the mistakes in the line are and that is a whole other story.

Just my two cents on something I feel very very strongly about.
 

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I hear ya BAS. I coudln't agree with you more.

I had a great card last night as I played CWS -141, Hoston +126, Atlanta -111, TB +130, LA Dodgers +113, LAA +124. My bad one was really bad with the Nats +147 but I think the anti-sweep crowd moved that one against me. I should have been paying more attention to that. Half of these were offers made late last night at Matchbook right before I went to bed.

Results wise I had one of my best days of the year today but none of that had anything to with the actual games today. It's a long term thing with these plays. This has to be the way one thinks with baseball but most times people just don't think this way espeically in a moneyline sport like bases but you just have to be patient and know that the long term it will all add up.

Best example I can give is I am having a great baseball season for my standards; winning in the 3-4% range which is double my overall win rate in all sports, so that is huge (hope I am not jinxing myself, knock wood, LOL). The problem is these results/numbers don't start to fall into place for me till until about 2,000 total bets are placed which is where I hit lately and now things have fallen nicely into place for me (knock on wood again). So the first few months when I was consistently making good bets and seeing non favorable results I got very frustrated but I hung in there because I rememebr the exact same thing happening lto me ast year during baseball season and now as we hit August everything is right in line with my last baseball season results. It's just variance and it can be a sports bettors worst enemy and that is why I am being so cautious with how I am saying this, LOL. I have been there way too many times with baseball but eventually it smoothes out.

I don't believe this enough myself but baseball is the easiest of the 3 major sports to beat if you can just hang on for the wild ride. This is hands down or maybe college hoops. The reason its the easiest is the volume becomes your friend at the end of this as it eventually takes the luck out (that is if you are playing with an edge). Sounds crazy but it is the #1 thing I have learned in the past 2 years. Sure we all love fotball season, the wekend, etc.. me included for that matter but give me a full season of baseball and for my time spent, my money won, etc.... its just way more advantageous for me to bet baseball. In fact football is probably the hardest to have a winning season for this very reason, not enough volume unless you make more volume.

Easiest way to explain all of this is for every $10 I bet I win $3-4 during baseball season, which doesn't sound like much but after hundreds of bets and thousands of bets it really can add up. I think the best statement of how important this is I will say no doubt in my man without betting early and getting a good price books there is no way I would win betting basebal, absolutely no way possibile. I don't know how anyone does it against widely availibile numbers. I can't believe LONGTERM wise it can be doen unless you are in dozens of books and finding lines better then Pinny and MB but that isnt easy with bases espeically.

In fact if someone asked me to sum up what I do and why I have won in 1 sentence. Without hesisation I would say "because I bet early". You name the sport and that is why but keep in mind you have to also know which is the right side and where the mistakes in the line are and that is a whole other story.

Just my two cents on something I feel very very strongly about.
I think you mean 3-4 dollars for every 100 wagered right not 10? 3-4 dollars on every ten would be 30-40% ROI. But I agree with you on everthing your saying though. I'm hitting close to 7% ROI with only about 400 plays this season so my volume is a little less than yours, but I too got killed so bad the first 2 weeks of baseball that I actually took the rest of april off and waited till May. But getting those early #'s made for a really good May and June where I was hitting 10% July I came back down to earth with 3%. Handicapping and picking winners is important but I think it may be even more important getting that game at +110 instead of +100 than actually picking the right side, but knowing which way that side will move is handicapping.
 

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