Carlos Gonzalez will be the best player in MLB in 3 years. maybe two.

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yes. better than Pujols. this kid is just unreal. its a shame too cause he gets no coverage and is having an insane year....
 

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this is his FIRST full season and hes hitting .325 (2nd in NL) 28 HR's and 88 RBIs (3rd in NL)....first full year...and if you have seen his swing and his athleticism you know this is no flash in the pan..
 

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I got laughed at for drafting him in the sixth round.
Most people who follow baseball are aware that he's the next big thing.
 

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this is his FIRST full season and hes hitting .325 (2nd in NL) 28 HR's and 88 RBIs (3rd in NL)....first full year...and if you have seen his swing and his athleticism you know this is no flash in the pan..

Make it 29 homers. Clueless Charlie Manuel didn't even pick him for the All-star game. Instead he took Matt Holliday, who Billy Beane traded Gonzalez (along with Huston Street) to get. Not Billy Beane's finest moment.
 

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my god. just drilled his 2nd Home Run of the game today. yesterday he had a single, triple and HR.

and to add to the list hes hit a game winning home run that completed a freaking CYCLE. I mean who does that their rook season?
 

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Albert Pujols is the best player in the history of baseball, and he is playing now, so Gonzalez can't be the best. He is very good though.
 

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kid is a stud..my only beef with him is he doesn't walk very much..I'm sure his eye will improve with time..other than that his game is very impressive
 

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Albert Pujols is the best player in the history of baseball
This statement is wrong on so many levels.

Cy Young won 511 games.
If you argue Young was a pitcher, I'll argue since when is a pitcher not a player?

Babe Ruth hit .342 lifetime, hit 714 homers in a dead ball era, won 23 games and 24 games in back to back seasons.
Let me know when Pujols wins his first game.

Lou Gehrig hit .340 lifetime with 493 homers in a dead ball era.
Don't lose sight of the fact that Gehrig batted 497 times after Ruth cleaned up the bases with a homer, or he would have easily driven home over 2500.
Had 184 RBI's one season batting behind Ruth.
Plus as good as a fielder Al is, he couldn't play first like Lou did.
Think about that.

Pujols isn't even Ted Williams yet, or Stan Musial, or Hank Aaron, or Willie Mays.
Maybe when it's all said and done, but to say Pujols is the best ever to play the game is wrong.

Very wrong.
 

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When Pujols is done with his career he will be in the top 5 players ever, one of the best but not the best..very hard to determine who is the best ever
 

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Vin Scully ( a man who has been in baseball trenches everyday for 60 years) says when he sees the #5 on Gonzalez' back and the ability he has.....he sees Dimaggio. that is a hell of a comment.
 

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When Pujols is done with his career he will be in the top 5 players ever, one of the best but not the best..very hard to determine who is the best ever

If his career was based on when my wager needed him to produce, he'd be washing cars for a living.
 

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When Pujols is done with his career he will be in the top 5 players ever, one of the best but not the best..very hard to determine who is the best ever
Maybe top 5 ever if he continues to produce like this, but after his tenth year in the game, his numbers will decrease.
Will Albert be top 10 ever? Probably.

To call him the best ever right now, to ever play the game is at very best, premature.
 

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This statement is wrong on so many levels.

Cy Young won 511 games.
If you argue Young was a pitcher, I'll argue since when is a pitcher not a player?

Babe Ruth hit .342 lifetime, hit 714 homers in a dead ball era, won 23 games and 24 games in back to back seasons.
Let me know when Pujols wins his first game.

Lou Gehrig hit .340 lifetime with 493 homers in a dead ball era.
Don't lose sight of the fact that Gehrig batted 497 times after Ruth cleaned up the bases with a homer, or he would have easily driven home over 2500.
Had 184 RBI's one season batting behind Ruth.
Plus as good as a fielder Al is, he couldn't play first like Lou did.
Think about that.

Pujols isn't even Ted Williams yet, or Stan Musial, or Hank Aaron, or Willie Mays.
Maybe when it's all said and done, but to say Pujols is the best ever to play the game is wrong.

Very wrong.

I should have substituted the word "player" with "hitter" which I will defend greatly despite the fact that I am a diehard Cubs fan.

Pujols is head and shoulders above every hitter you just named. It's really not close. Pujols have never scored less than 99 runs in a season, never hit below .314 in a season, has never driven in less than 100 runs in a season, has never hit less than 32 HRs in a season, has never hit less than 33 doubles in a season, has never had less than a .403 OBP, and has never had less than an .955 OPS. He is the model of consitency. He hasn't struck out 70 times in a single year since his rookie season (unlike Babe Ruth).

He has a career OBP of .426 and career OPS of 1.052. NO ONE has done what he has done so consistently. But to me, what sets him apart from all those players you tried to compare him to that played XX years ago is the evolution of the game. Babe Ruth would be an average to below average hitter in today's game (blasphemy, right?). Player's are exponentially better now than they were in the past, and for Pujols to do what he has done against today's pitchers is a testament to his abilities. As you'll notice, the players you listed have a trend of declining stat strength in correlation with the later in time they played the game. If Pujols had this skill set 50 years ago he would put up stats that would make you slap yourself in the face for arguing against him as the best.
 

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What's Pujols numbers in the dead ball era.
 

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What's Pujols numbers in the dead ball era.

Unfortunately, we can't know. Personally, I think Pujols has taken steroids at at least one point in his life as well, and when he is outed that will spark a new debate. I would have trouble finding a position on that subject. While it is obvious that players gain an edge by cheating, their talent still can't be denied. Thousands of baseball players take steroids, but they can't do what Bonds, Arod, etc have done. If you or I were to take steroids, we obviously would still not be able to play in MLB. Makes you want to know what these players would've been able to do had they not cheated... who knows.
 

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Similar numbers......... from 80 years ago. Again, I think putting up numbers now is unspeakably harder than it was that long ago against relatively weaker competition. Great player, but not the greatest.
 

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