Twin's Jim Thome homers to pass the great Frank Robinson for 8th on the all time list. Hall of Fame not far off.

wilheim · Sep 12, 2010

Jim Thome hit his 587th home run Saturday night to pass Frank Robinson for eighth place on the all-time list.

Among the nine players who have reached 500 home runs during baseball's steroid era, the only two who seem assured of a place in Cooperstown are Thome and Ken Griffey Jr.

Right now there is nothing stopping Thome from returning next year for his 21st. season and enable him to reach the elusive 600 career HR mark which if he hasn't already slugged his way into the HOF certainly would cinch the power packed left hander into a spot in Cooperstown when he becomes eligible in the middle of this new decade.

This year in limited action as The Twins DH and lefty pinch hitter,Thome has slugged his way to a .278 average with 16 doubles, 22 home runs, and 52 RBIs in just 241 at-bats. If he had enough at-bats to qualify, his OPS - on-base-plus-slugging-percentage average - of 1.042 would be fourth in the American League and better than any hitter in the National League.

The Twins with a combination of excellent pitching and a dangerous lineup will not go easy this post season giving Thome an excellent opportunity to the one thing he has never been able to obtain during his long career - A World Series Winner's ring.

No doubt about it the ultra consistent Jim Thome is headed for The HOF.

wil.

8ate · Sep 12, 2010

To compare Thome to Frank Robinson; kinda disgusting to me; hey; Robinson played hard to win; was a champion; What has Thome ever done; other than inflate his stats against cream puff pitchers; while inhaling steroids. If you really think Thome could fit in Frank Robinson's uniform; you probably think Bob Gibson was a cream puff pitch;

jmho

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ThreeKings · Sep 12, 2010

He is also a first class teammate and I hope he is back with the Twins next year!

FairWarning · Sep 12, 2010

Yes, lock. White Sox really miss him this season.

Gravy · Sep 12, 2010

FairWarning said:
Yes, lock. White Sox really miss him this season.

hell the Indians could still use him but didnt want to pay him.Sucks being in a small market in Cleveland

FairWarning · Sep 12, 2010

Gravy said:
hell the Indians could still use him but didnt want to pay him.Sucks being in a small market in Cleveland

Yeah, that was the biggest problem. Thome really wanted to stay in Chicago too.

coloradobuff · Sep 12, 2010

agree 100%..loved his hr last nite..thome thome thome has done it again

wilheim · Sep 12, 2010

8ate

For the record, Jim Thome has never been associated with the known steroid users. Just because he played in the steroid era does not mean he used them. Look at his consistency, from 1996 until 2008 Thome hit 30 or more home runs every year except one, 2005 a year he was injured for most of the season and only played in 58 games.

We are not talking about a Brady Anderson type player who had one big power year. Accusing him of inhaling steroids without proof is unfair to say the least.

For the record I am not comparing him to Frank Robinson either, Thome just happened to pass Robby on the all time homer list. I never said Thome was comparable to Robby as an all around ballplayer.

Thome won the 2002 Roberto Clemente Award given annually to the player who combines giving back to the community with outstanding on-field skills and the 2004 Lou Gehrig Award given to players who best exemplify his character and integrity both on and off the field. He has never done anything to disgrace the game in 21 years. He was also the 2006 AL Comback Player of the year and a 5 time all star.

As far as cream puff pitchers go - hitters can only face what other teams have to offer. I have been watching baseball live since the 50s and there have always been a top tier level of pitchers and the remainder have been no better or worse today than they were 50 years ago.

Bottom line anyone who knows baseball fairly well knows Frank Robinson is one of the all time greats. He simply had his career home run total surpassed. Jim Thome is a superb power hitter who has never disgraced the game but very few players can be compared to Frank Robinson including Jim Thome.

You surprised me with your post, I have always known you to be a rational and fairminded poster. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.

Best of luck today, wil.

wabashwonders · Sep 12, 2010

wilheim said:
For the record, Jim Thome has never been associated with the known steroid users. Just because he played in the steroid era does not mean he used them. Look at his consistency, from 1996 until 2008 Thome hit 30 or more home runs every year except one, 2005 a year he was injured for most of the season and only played in 58 games.

We are not talking about a Brady Anderson type player who had one big power year. Accusing him of inhaling steroids without proof is unfair to say the least.

For the record I am not comparing him to Frank Robinson either, Thome just happened to pass Robby on the all time homer list. I never said Thome was comparable to Robby as an all around ballplayer.

Thome won the 2002 Roberto Clemente Award given annually to the player who combines giving back to the community with outstanding on-field skills and the 2004 Lou Gehrig Award given to players who best exemplify his character and integrity both on and off the field. He has never done anything to disgrace the game in 21 years. He was also the 2006 AL Comback Player of the year and a 5 time all star.

As far as cream puff pitchers go - hitters can only face what other teams have to offer. I have been watching baseball live since the 50s and there have always been a top tier level of pitchers and the remainder have been no better or worse today than they were 50 years ago.

Bottom line anyone who knows baseball fairly well knows Frank Robinson is one of the all time greats. He simply had his career home run total surpassed. Jim Thome is a superb power hitter who has never disgraced the game but very few players can be compared to Frank Robinson including Jim Thome.

You surprised me with your post, I have always known you to be a rational and fairminded poster. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.

Best of luck today, wil.

There is no proof against Bonds either, yet he has been charged convicted and sentenced already by most...

MLB is a joke right now and records mean absolutely nothing.

DrunkenHorseplayer · Sep 12, 2010

The fact that he's playing just as well in his late 30's as he did in his mid 20's is very suspicious, despite the fact that he's never failed a test. On top of that, he's a Craig Biggio type: very good for a long time but not HOF material.

tooran · Sep 12, 2010

I liked Thome's quote last night after hitting the extra innings game winning homer

[while talking about his 186th homer at Cleveland's Progressive Field]:

"I have more memories here than I can remember," Thome said.

Thank you Yogi Berra.

THEHITMAN · Sep 12, 2010

Good for him.......always liked Thome

TomGshotput · Sep 13, 2010

wabashwonders said:
There is no proof against Bonds either, yet he has been charged convicted and sentenced already by most...

MLB is a joke right now and records mean absolutely nothing.

There is over 300 pages of evidence. What the hell more do you want?

The 1600 walks and .400 career obp are pretty huge, too

Enfuego · Sep 13, 2010

Drunken Horseplayer said:
The fact that he's playing just as well in his late 30's as he did in his mid 20's is very suspicious, despite the fact that he's never failed a test. On top of that, he's a Craig Biggio type: very good for a long time but not HOF material.

Is Jeter on roids? Is Brett Favre on roids? Is Steve Nash on roids?

Everyone is different.

TomGshotput · Sep 13, 2010

Jeter is playing well?

wabashwonders · Sep 15, 2010

TomGshotput said:
There is over 300 pages of evidence. What the hell more do you want?

The 1600 walks and .400 career obp are pretty huge, too

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LOL, just because someone writes a book does not make it proof. If there was absolute proof, why has he been "on trial" for the past 6 years with no conviction? He has not failed a MLB drug test. There is a list of 104 players out there of players who failed tests and Bonds is NOT on that list. How do I know this? Because if his name was on the list, it would have come out by now. I am not saying that Bonds never took steroids, just that they have no absolute proof that he did. And last I heard, we live in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty...

TomGshotput · Sep 16, 2010

I never claimed "absolute proof," I simply pointed out the evidence. The vast majority of drug users and former drug users in the US are never found guilty, nor fail a drug test despite an estimate 100 million or so of us. Jerry Garcia never failed a drug test either. Bonds didn't even take a binding drug test until seven years after his first accused use

Writing a book isn't what makes it proof, it is a matter of the effort and research that goes into writing it that makes it a strong case

wabashwonders · Sep 18, 2010

TomGshotput said:
I never claimed "absolute proof," I simply pointed out the evidence. The vast majority of drug users and former drug users in the US are never found guilty, nor fail a drug test despite an estimate 100 million or so of us. Jerry Garcia never failed a drug test either. Bonds didn't even take a binding drug test until seven years after his first accused use

Writing a book isn't what makes it proof, it is a matter of the effort and research that goes into writing it that makes it a strong case

And all I did was point out that your "evidence" obviously means nothing or Bonds would have been found guilty of perjury by now. And making a strong case is not proof either.

All I was responding to was the fact someone pointed out that someone should not be accused of something without proof. There is no proof right now against Bonds, yet most have already convicted him. And keep in mind, having a strong case is not the same as having proof...

festeringZit · Sep 18, 2010

wabashwonders said:
And all I did was point out that your "evidence" obviously means nothing or Bonds would have been found guilty of perjury by now. And making a strong case is not proof either.

All I was responding to was the fact someone pointed out that someone should not be accused of something without proof. There is no proof right now against Bonds, yet most have already convicted him. And keep in mind, having a strong case is not the same as having proof...

Blah blah blah, the scumbag ADMITTED he used steroids. Though, his bullshit
story is that he didn't know they were steroids (yeah right):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/12/03/MNGGFA0UDU65.DTL

Dec. 3, 2004: The San Francisco Chroniclereports more grand jury testimony, this time from San Francisco Giants star Barry Bonds. The Chronicle says Bonds admitted to unknowingly using steroids known as "the clear" and "the cream" during the 2003 season. Bonds said his personal trainer provided the steroids. The Chronicle also reported that prosecutors showed Bonds documents from 2001-03 alleging that he used various drugs, including human growth hormone and Depo-Testosterone.

TomGshotput · Sep 18, 2010

wabashwonders said:
yet most have already convicted him

Completely wrong. No one has convicted him. Most simply don't have their heads up their ass

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