When you cradle a catch in football or baseball, are you supposed to get up and yell at the ref or ump, "I didn't catch it!" No, you get up and hold the ball up like, "I got it!". Same thing. You do what you need to do to win, within the rules of the game. It's not a rule that you can't act like you got hit.
How about trying to sell the ump that it wasn't you that put cork in the bat (or pine tar)? (Albert Belle, George Brett)
How about trying to sell the ump that you didn't scuff the ball with an emery board,
but that the emery board was for filing your nails? (Joe Niekro) - or vasoline (Gaylord Perry)... or spit...
Or, saying that the steroids in your body were actually there because you didn't
know what the cream was you used on your skin? (Barry Scumbag Bonds)
Just wondering how far "selling the ump on BS" is looked on as being ok?
If the best thing you can say about Jeter is that he has done better than Red Sox shortstops, that's another great indication he really isn't contributing very much
By definition, if a player is helping a team win, their skills absolutely are tangible. If their skills are intangible, it must mean they aren't helping to make a difference in the standings
By definition, if a player is helping a team win, their skills absolutely are tangible. If their skills are intangible, it must mean they aren't helping to make a difference in the standings
The next run Jeter scores will be his 100th, and if the object of the game is to score runs, then he contributes.
Jeter may have limited range, but never makes a defensive mistake, and he has won mutliple gold gloves, so I guess you can say he contributes that way as well.
He contributes in the dugout with his leadership as well.
Let me give you a little baseball lesson Tom, there is more to the game then just Bill James sabre numbers.
Jeter may have limited range, but never makes a defensive mistake, and he has won mutliple gold gloves, so I guess you can say he contributes that way as well.
He contributes in the dugout with his leadership as well.
Let me give you a little baseball lesson Tom, there is more to the game then just Bill James sabre numbers.
Catching the ball and throwing the ball are definitely tangible. And in that area of the game, there is more than just impressing a few writers by jumping while getting the ball to first. . .
I already pointed out Jeter has an almost .700 OPS. Shade that to favor OBP over 700 plate appearances with very good hitters behind him and he should be scoring a lot of runs from the leadoff position. It isn't that hard to see that the runs scored statistic that Bill James and others have used throughout baseball history is a combination of what Jeter has done along with what his teammates have done
I already pointed out Jeter has an almost .700 OPS. Shade that to favor OBP over 700 plate appearances with very good hitters behind him and he should be scoring a lot of runs from the leadoff position. It isn't that hard to see that the runs scored statistic that Bill James and others have used throughout baseball history is a combination of what Jeter has done along with what his teammates have done
To be honest, I never understood any of those things. I never played baseball passed about age 14, but the spit/rub on the ball? What does that do? Make it move more? Pine tar? Who gives a shit? Corked bat? Is it the density that changes or the weight of the bat? I thought it was good to have a heavy bat? I don't know, maybe I'm the only one and I look like an idiot now...
BALTIMORE -- For the past two days, the sports world has been debating over the propriety, or lack thereof, of Derek Jeter's "performance" after getting buzzed by a pitch in the seventh inning of Wednesday night's game against the Tampa Bay Rays.
And as is often the case, the only person capable of applying true clarity to the situation was Jeter himself.
"It's really a big deal being made out of nothing," Jeter said in the New York Yankees clubhouse before Friday night's game against the Baltimore Orioles at Camden Yards. "I had nothing to do with the call. The umpire called it from the get-go. I didn't do it. I didn't tell myself to go to first base. I didn't make the call. He didn't ask me did it hit you and I said, 'Yeah, it hit me please let me go to first base.' It's comical to me that this is really getting this much attention."
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Replays showed Chad Qualls' pitch hit the knob of Jeter's bat, but home plate umpire Lance Barksdale awarded Jeter first base as he writhed in apparent agony. The next batter, Curtis Granderson, hit a home run, giving the Yankees what turned out to be a short-lived 3-2 lead. "Everyone says it's cheating, but what did I do?" Jeter asked, bemused. "The ball hit the bat, he told me to go to first. How is that cheating?"
Asked about his exaggerated reaction -- Jeter is a player who rarely acknowledges legitimate injuries -- Jeter said: "You don't want it to look like he's completely wrong. If you get hit with a pitch, it usually hurts. My job is to continue to sell it, I guess. You don't want him to reverse the call."
General manager Brian Cashman was similarly surprised by the lingering reaction over the play, which became a moot point when Dan Johnson hit a two-run home run off Phil Hughes in the bottom of the inning to provide the margin of Tampa Bay's 4-3 victory.
"That's winning baseball, as simple as that. Winning baseball," Cashman said of Jeter's sales job. "He put us in a position to almost win a game and that's his job. If you're going to pitch in you run the risk of hitting a guy or creating the perception of hitting the guy. That's on the pitcher."
Manager Joe Girardi acknowledged that Jeter's career-long reputation as a player who plays the game the right way factored into the outcry, much of which was negative. "I think if it wasn't Derek Jeter, and it wasn't that series, people wouldn't be talking about it," he said.
"It's trying to win a game is what I call it," Girardi said.
"This is not the first time this has happened, guys," Jeter said. "And by the way, we lost the game. Must have been a slow news day."
And as is often the case, the only person capable of applying true clarity to the situation was Jeter himself.
"It's really a big deal being made out of nothing," Jeter said in the New York Yankees clubhouse before Friday night's game against the Baltimore Orioles at Camden Yards. "I had nothing to do with the call. The umpire called it from the get-go. I didn't do it. I didn't tell myself to go to first base. I didn't make the call. He didn't ask me did it hit you and I said, 'Yeah, it hit me please let me go to first base.' It's comical to me that this is really getting this much attention."
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Replays showed Chad Qualls' pitch hit the knob of Jeter's bat, but home plate umpire Lance Barksdale awarded Jeter first base as he writhed in apparent agony. The next batter, Curtis Granderson, hit a home run, giving the Yankees what turned out to be a short-lived 3-2 lead. "Everyone says it's cheating, but what did I do?" Jeter asked, bemused. "The ball hit the bat, he told me to go to first. How is that cheating?"
Asked about his exaggerated reaction -- Jeter is a player who rarely acknowledges legitimate injuries -- Jeter said: "You don't want it to look like he's completely wrong. If you get hit with a pitch, it usually hurts. My job is to continue to sell it, I guess. You don't want him to reverse the call."
General manager Brian Cashman was similarly surprised by the lingering reaction over the play, which became a moot point when Dan Johnson hit a two-run home run off Phil Hughes in the bottom of the inning to provide the margin of Tampa Bay's 4-3 victory.
"That's winning baseball, as simple as that. Winning baseball," Cashman said of Jeter's sales job. "He put us in a position to almost win a game and that's his job. If you're going to pitch in you run the risk of hitting a guy or creating the perception of hitting the guy. That's on the pitcher."
Manager Joe Girardi acknowledged that Jeter's career-long reputation as a player who plays the game the right way factored into the outcry, much of which was negative. "I think if it wasn't Derek Jeter, and it wasn't that series, people wouldn't be talking about it," he said.
"It's trying to win a game is what I call it," Girardi said.
"This is not the first time this has happened, guys," Jeter said. "And by the way, we lost the game. Must have been a slow news day."
Say what you want but Jeter lost a lot of peoples respect over this. The cheater even brought out the team Dr. to look at his "smashed" hand. Everybody on the field knew he wasn't hit except for the fatassed blind ump. The Yankees are Americas most hated team...even though they outspend every team by ten billion dollars, they still can't win w/o cheating.
Too bad they pulled out a 9th inning win tonight due to Baltimore having the worst closer in baseball. It would be great if Tampa Bay can win their division and then shit turds down on the cheating Yanks.
Too bad they pulled out a 9th inning win tonight due to Baltimore having the worst closer in baseball. It would be great if Tampa Bay can win their division and then shit turds down on the cheating Yanks.
