How the added games came about

Search

New member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
442
Tokens
This may be interesting to some. It's out of my book We Were Wiseguys And Didn't Know It beginning on page 124:

THE ROTATION LEADS TO THE ADDED GAMES It was all workable because everyone used the same rotation of games. All LV sportsbooks, BMs, and bettors around the country as well as newspapers, sports radio talk shows, etc. We all used the same games in the same order, i.e., "the rotation." This rotation was researched by, and then printed and distributed in the Jim Feist sports schedule. Jim Feist had by now wrested the schedule business from Jerry Kilgore who owned JK Sports out of Los Angeles. JK was the early schedule maker. The rotation and schedule books were distributed throughout the country so everyone involved was on the same page. When the line was copied from the Stardust sports boards and relayed to whomever, both parties, on each end, had the same template.

Therein lay a problem that grew into big problem. I was trying to do as much business

as possible while most other sports books were not of the same philosophy. They wanted business, of course, but soft business. Some would actually discourage business, especially from wiseguys. They were afraid to lose, and certain book managers were afraid of their jobs. Roxy and Feist were selecting the games to be used in the schedule while the Stardust was sticking its neck out by putting numbers on those games. Roxy and Fiest weren't in on our wins and losses, although Roxy took it personally when the books he serviced lost. Feist had several tout services (person or company that sells selections on games) he advertised in his schedule.

I remembered from my days at Churchill and working with Ray Vera that quite a few teams we used were now missing from the schedule rotation. When the JK Schedule was used exclusively, more games were being booked. This was especially true in college basketball. The fewer games Roxy had to make numbers on, the better for him and his crew. Most other sports books were booking as few college games as possible while we wanted to book as many as reasonably possible.

I took it upon myself to do what I considered best for the Stardust. I started using smaller schools and conferences that were being left out but had competitive programs. I chose those located in big media and betting markets to add to our Stardust betting menu: Drexel, Long Beach State, Richmond, Youngstown State, Detroit, Niagara, San Francisco, Jacksonville, Long Island, Cleveland State, Buffalo, etc. Well over one hundred additional teams were added from conferences like the Ivy’s, the MAC, Ohio Valley, etc., just like old times. It wasn't just a shoot from the hip undertaking. It was well thought out. We gave the line to newspapers, TV, and radio stations in those markets free, as long as they mentioned the line was from the Stardust. This wasn’t a fluff move either since we were taking half-limit bets on the added teams. It was more work for Roxy, Jerry the Hat, me, and my other guys. Our supervisors had more games to chart, manage, and move the numbers on. The sports board men had extra work setting up the added games. John Mastalir, who researched college schedules and game times for Feist, had his work doubled, but not his paycheck. But why should we let others dictate the games we won and lost on? It was a good move, a righteous move.

To accomplish this, we had to print our own schedules to fit the added games. Once again we needed management cooperation. By now I had Arnie Lang on the Stardust Radio Show cohosting with Roxy, so we put Arnie on the sportsbook payroll, gave him an office, and he produced a quality schedule putting the added games in their proper spots timewise. Our schedules were now different than Feist’s. His schedule was diminished because the teams in his schedule didn’t matchup with ours. If a service guy copied our line, in our order, and then tried to read it over the phone to someone using Feist’s order, it wouldn’t work.

Some other sportsbook managers hated us before. Now they had customers coming in their sportsbooks and wanting to bet on Monmouth, Santa Clara, UNC Greensboro, Loyola Chicago, or some such school, and they had to tell them they don’t use those teams. The customer told them the Stardust did and left all pissed. Confusion reigned when Feist paid a visit. I didn't mind putting the squeeze on the big, extravagant

sportsbooks, and we kind of enjoyed making them squirm. I didn't want to hurt anyone else in the business, however, especially the local service guys and others around the country who depended on us for their numbers. Feist and I figured out a solution. We would use his normal rotation and simply add our extra games on the bottom in a separate section—thus the label "Added Games," which is still in use today. To appease the more timid sportsbooks, Feist printed a second edition that left out our added games altogether. A sportsbook or bookie could now choose to use our games or hide them from their customers.

We continued to print our schedule for a couple more years matching up with the Feist schedule, putting our added games at the end. Arnie sent a Stardust schedule to everyone who requested one. Even in the can. Yes, we had listeners to our radio show in jail, and we would always honor their requests and put one in the mail. Whether or not they were passed on to the inmates was another story, but I’m sure most were.

A subculture was born of bettors who specialized in our added games. The most famous and most successful of them all was Allen Boston. Allen was from Maine, a Princeton graduate, and super sharp on the poker tables as well as facing the sports boards. Allen was polite and a pleasure to know. He spent basketball season in Las Vegas, with us of course. Allen was a consistent winner betting college basketball. He had to be to keep up with his habit of forgetting things. Allen misplaced many a winning ticket, which we could honor, and he also lost numerous $5,000 sports book chips, which we couldn’t honor. His Corvette was even lost for a few days till someone spotted it. Allen is still in LV although he plans to retire from gambling and put his Ivy League education and sharp mind to use.

progress.gif
 

New member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
7,948
Tokens
1I enjoyed reading this the first time when I read your book, and rereading this, makes me want to read it all over again. For those of you who haven't read Scotty's book, it's a great easy read with lots of information. I know or knew some of he characters in the book like D'Wayne Mualdin and Jackie Salem. Jackies daughter died a few years ago.
 

New member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
442
Tokens
1I enjoyed reading this the first time when I read your book, and rereading this, makes me want to read it all over again. For those of you who haven't read Scotty's book, it's a great easy read with lots of information. I know or knew some of he characters in the book like D'Wayne Mualdin and Jackie Salem. Jackies daughter died a few years ago.

Know Jackie well. I think d'Wayne is the pro at a LV golf course now.

From the book, pg 133:

STARDUST EMPLOYEES DID OKAY
In an odd twist, the racebook gave me one of my very best sports supervisors. In the mornings, a very polite, young black kid would make a $10 sports parlay. If I was out front, he'd ask me if there were any sportsbook jobs open. One morning he’s sitting in the sportsbook. The national anthem, to open Aqueduct, is coming in live over the racebook speakers as was the custom from our race service. Some of the horseplayers stood up as they always do. Over in the sportsbook, he jumps up to attention. It turned out he graduated from Cincinnatti University on a golf scholarship. He had been stationed at Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas and was now out of the service. I spotted him and asked him his name. "d’Wayne Mauldin," he tells me. "You still want a job?" "Yes, sir." I didn’t need anyone at the time, but I hired him anyway. What a lucky move. d’Wayne quickly learned and turned himself into a top-shelf supervisor. He went on to take over and manage a couple of other books.

 

New member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
442
Tokens
It's World Series time again. How many remember this?

From the book, pg 146:

GARY AUSTIN
Gary Austin came to Las Vegas from Southern California where it was rumored he had made a small fortune in real estate. Gary was a good handicapper, winning the Castaways Football Contest with an unreal 62 percent. He was featured in an article in Sports Illustrated and was a local hero for a while. He was a gambler, but his legacy wouldn’t be his gambling exploits, however. His claim to fame or infamy in LV came as a result of his being too successful. Gary bought the old, stand-alone Rose Bowl race and sports book where the Wynn now sits. The property alone, forget the book, was worth many millions. Gary booked high and could have been a Las Vegas icon. He put his opinion into his numbers, and the players loved it. He was in the class of a Gene Mayday or the Stardust. He was big time.


The problem was he believed his own hype. He probably thought of himself as being invincible. He began purposely putting up bad numbers so the sharps would bet them. Of course, this produced an inflated, temporary bankroll for him, which he then proceeded to bet with. Bad combination, betting with other people’s money. It all came crashing down during the 1985 Kansas City/St. Louis World Series won by the Royals. He overextended himself. An error at first base and a blown call by first base umpire Larry Burnett cost him around $750,000. The next day there was a sign on the door that said they were closed due to a robbery. Not the robbery at first base but the sports book itself was allegedly robbed. Everyone got stiffed but a few ticket holders with muscle behind them.

A couple days later, at 11:30 p.m. (how could I not remember) I got a call at home. It was apparent from the first word that these guys were pros and not to be taken lightly. Paraphrasing, it went like this: Scotty, we have a message for you. We’re not interested in harming you, but Gary Austin still has a live phone account with you (i.e., Stardust). It’s not right for him to be betting while he owes us. They were calm and didn’t threaten me, but I got the point. Next morning I call Gary and tell him to empty his phone account; he was done with us. Unbelievably, he said it was not his personal money but belonged to the corporation, and he didn’t understand why he couldn’t continue to bet. Not being a good debater,I told him in these exact words: "Gary, I’m putting your money in a brown bag, and if you’re not out front within half an hour, I’m setting it on the curb."

I closed his phone account (although not exactly according to GCB regulations), put his balance in a brown bag, and went out front under the porticoes. Shortly afterward, Gary came in his Cadillac, I handed him the bag with +$50,000 in it, and he drove off still holding to his "I got robbed" story.

Where’s Gary Austin now? He’s in Costa Rica, back in business in a luxurious property. He married a former Miss Costa Rica and is a wealthy man again. He still hasn’t paid the vast majority of his Las Vegas ticket holders. He’s paid a few, those who would put a knot on his head. This reinforces my theory: If we took all the money in the world and divided it up equally, it wouldn’t take long till the same people ended up with it again.
 

New member
Joined
Apr 9, 2009
Messages
125
Tokens
Scotty- Is there anyplace in Las Vegas that has the book in stock? I called the Gambler's Book Club and it's out of stock but they have some on order. Can you settle a bet for me? I was talking with some longtime Las Vegans like myself and the topic of Big Russ came up. One of the guys I was talking with about the good old days said you tossed Russ from the Stardust a few times but then let him back in. Of course I'm sure Russ went back to being himself and you ran him out again. He made the number at 5 1/2. I bet the over. Lol.
 

"i had a hundy but i bet a grand"
Joined
Mar 21, 2005
Messages
8,199
Tokens
1I enjoyed reading this the first time when I read your book, and rereading this, makes me want to read it all over again. For those of you who haven't read Scotty's book, it's a great easy read with lots of information. I know or knew some of he characters in the book like D'Wayne Mualdin and Jackie Salem. Jackies daughter died a few years ago.
felt the same way about the read and am gonna take it out and start reading it again on this dreary day in nyc..my aunt used to be a cocktail waitress at the stardust putting herself thru school at unlv in the mid 70's... i was only a child livin out there with my 2 cousins and dad..he used to live in that place...all those names in the book seemed like a flashback...still have my stardust coffee mug i drink out of everyday, from making a parlay..think that was the deal say in the late 80's-early 90's?...bet $25 or so parlay and receive a mug....cheers
 

New member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
442
Tokens
Scotty- Is there anyplace in Las Vegas that has the book in stock? I called the Gambler's Book Club and it's out of stock but they have some on order. Can you settle a bet for me? I was talking with some longtime Las Vegans like myself and the topic of Big Russ came up. One of the guys I was talking with about the good old days said you tossed Russ from the Stardust a few times but then let him back in. Of course I'm sure Russ went back to being himself and you ran him out again. He made the number at 5 1/2. I bet the over. Lol.

Big Russ was a world class pain in the ass. USC graduate but it was wasted money. He used to bully the tourists, especially older ones, push them out of the line. The over wins. Montana Mel was an entry with Russ. Always let both back in though.
 

New member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
442
Tokens
Big Russ was a world class pain in the ass. USC graduate but it was wasted money. He used to bully the tourists, especially older ones, push them out of the line. The over wins. Montana Mel was an entry with Russ. Always let both back in though.

Speaking of Montana Mel, more from the book, page 111:

SERVICE GUYS, EARNERS, MOVERS, SCALPERS
Bobby the Owl liked the new phone room ever since he left his false teeth on the pay phones outside. He still used the pay phones once a day though. Bobby had a customer back East whom I set him up with. One call in the morning and that was it—$125 per week, 1980s dollars, and the guy paid for the calls. Montana Melvin had to use the pay phones outside because he called the line LD (long distance). Melvin wasn’t well groomed; his diet consisted of warm Coors and raw hotdogs while living in a camper. When he bothered the customers, we had to temporarily 86 him, only to rescind the 86 later of course. Montana did have an uncanny talent though. He could recite every nickname of every college team, big and small. Hundreds and hundreds of them, and he couldn’t be stumped.
On one of those days when Montana was 86’d, he had to get the line to send out to his client. If he couldn’t come in and copy the line, he would listen to someone else read the line on the pay phones outside and copy that line. You guessed it. One day a guy on the phones knew Montana was listening and pretended to give out the line—all phony numbers that Mel copied and sent out himself. I’ll bet the client he was servicing is still paying off.
 

And if the Road Warrior says it, it must be true..
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
15,481
Tokens
Good read....nice inside info.
 

New member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
442
Tokens
page 24:

THE DOOR
At the end of the day, the square money (not bet by sharp guys or wiseguys) went over to Harrys office on the race book side. The rest of the money went into "the door." On the inside door of the sports book office, there was a special molding that covered up a trap door within the door. No one could tell by looking at it. Pull the molding down and the door was full of money. Money no auditor ever counted. Money from some of the sharpest "R" bettors in Las Vegas. The office had your standard floor safe as well, for a legit BR to open with next morning. Kind of like the way our government does its business.

Every morning right up through the late 1970s, before we opened, we had to go to our man’s house to get the updated figures from the previous day’s under-the-table action. It was in code in case the wrong people confiscated it. These figures, these accounts, were of bettors even bigger than the "R" ticket guys. These were credit players. If one of them settled, either pay or collect, it happened in private. No paperwork. It could never happen today. The GCB is vigilant, and it’s all done on computer with a paper trail.


(Note: Churchill Downs was bulldozed many years ago. Paris is now on the old site)
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,108,192
Messages
13,449,300
Members
99,400
Latest member
steelreign
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com