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after the games end today....possibly by themselves, or in a tie with the Rams pending their game....

can anyone remember a worse team being in 1st place past the halfway point, in an NFL season?

This Seattle team looks horrible most of the time, but then it seems they just pop up every other game or so with a win, and in their division, that is enough...

but not sure i remember any first place team being this bad, this far into a season....

They would be a DOUBLE DIGIT dog in any playoff matchup they would get right now...
 

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after the games end today....possibly by themselves, or in a tie with the Rams pending their game....

can anyone remember a worse team being in 1st place past the halfway point, in an NFL season?

This Seattle team looks horrible most of the time, but then it seems they just pop up every other game or so with a win, and in their division, that is enough...

but not sure i remember any first place team being this bad, this far into a season....

They would be a DOUBLE DIGIT dog in any playoff matchup they would get right now...


If Seattle wins the NFC West and hosts a first round playoff game, I doubt they will be a DOUBLE DIGIT home underdog in the 1st round. Maybe 7-8?

But who knows. This has been a WACKY NFL season.
 

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Niners beat Rams in OT. Had Arizona beat Seattle, the Niners would have been only 1 game out of first! @):mad:
 

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If Seattle wins the NFC West and hosts a first round playoff game, I doubt they will be a DOUBLE DIGIT home underdog in the 1st round. Maybe 7-8?

But who knows. This has been a WACKY NFL season.

actually, you're right...i was thinking with their record they would be a road team, but you're right, as a division winner (even with a worse record) they would host the wildcard team with the best record.....so probably only a 7 pt dog depending on the team...if it turned out to be atlanta or new orleans (which it very well could) they still might be a 10 pt dog...depending on how rest of season plays out with injuries, etc..
 

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we hawk fans are used to the team not getting any respect. They're definitely not a great team but in the playoffs at qwest, they're not as easy an out as you're making them seem. Not a friendly environment for any team to come into.
 

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we hawk fans are used to the team not getting any respect. They're definitely not a great team but in the playoffs at qwest, they're not as easy an out as you're making them seem. Not a friendly environment for any team to come into.
please man, i dont want to trash on your team or anything, but there a joke. my buddy is a big hawks fan and i dont hear the end of it from him, so ive been watching alot of seattle last few years so when he tries to brag i can have points to argue with him. and really, nothing needs to be said. the fact that they even have a chance at making the playoffs is a joke. if you put them in the NFC East or NFC North they would be 3-13... as well as 0-6 in the division (i am fully confident they would get swept by detroit)
 

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please man, i dont want to trash on your team or anything, but there a joke. my buddy is a big hawks fan and i dont hear the end of it from him, so ive been watching alot of seattle last few years so when he tries to brag i can have points to argue with him. and really, nothing needs to be said. the fact that they even have a chance at making the playoffs is a joke. if you put them in the NFC East or NFC North they would be 3-13... as well as 0-6 in the division (i am fully confident they would get swept by detroit)

They wouldnt be 0-6 in the NFC North. They already beat Chicago IN Chicago.
 

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They wouldnt be 0-6 in the NFC North. They already beat Chicago IN Chicago.
ill give you that any team can beat any team any given week, but 9/10 times seattle will lose to chicago... i watched that game and seattle did play well, but chicago just took them for granted. they came out and scored on their first posession and then stopped playing.
 

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49ers are gonna win the division. Called it when they were 0-5. Nothing has changed.
 

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reminds me of a few years ago when arizona made their run.....shit team from shit division comes within a turd hair of winning the SB.....1st round of playoffs, i'm playing nfc west winner ML baby
 

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49ers are gonna win the division. Called it when they were 0-5. Nothing has changed.

When they stop shooting themselves in the foot and play with a little more discipline, I'll start buying into the Niners. They should be dominating this division, but are their own worst enemy. Troy Smith does look like he has provided a nice spark. We will see if he is as effective once teams have some game tape on him.
 

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http://blog.seattlepi.com/hawkfan/archives/229312.asp

http://blog.seattlepi.com/hawkfan/archives/229312.asp
How The Seahawks Could Finish 7-9 and Win the NFC West
The NFC West catches a lot of flack for being well, a dreadful division, not just in football, but professional sports.
I tend to agree and disagree with this notion, because while the regular season records may be porous the NFC West truly does personify the Phoenix metaphor by tying the AFC East with the most Super Bowl representatives in the past decade (four).
Regardless, the Seahawks have a chance to be the first 7-9 team to win a division title (correct me if i'm wrong), in NFL history.
With four of their next six contests at home, I doubt they go 2-4 to finish the season with a losing record. The sad thing is, not much has to happen for the Seahawks to capture the NFC West with seven victories anyway.
If they can just beat the Rams and 49ers through the rest of the season, those two teams would have to finish 4-1, and 5-0 respectively through all of their games to steal the division away.
The 4-6 Rams have the Broncos, Cardinals, Saints, Chiefs, and 49ers, as well as a road contest in Seattle remaining on their schedule.
If they notched a road loss at Seattle, they would lose their tiebreaker against the Seahawks and the season series would stand at 1-1. The Seahawks would also surpass the Rams most possible divisional wins (4), meaning the Rams would have to attain eight wins to top Seattle.
The 3-7 49ers have the Packers, Chargers, Rams, and the Cardinals twice remaining on their schedule, as well as hosting Seattle.
If they recorded their eighth overall loss and second to Seattle, that means they would have to surpass seven wins to have any chance at winning the division.
That's a tall order for both teams, and I simply don't see any team in the NFC West finishing the season with a 4-1 record.
As to where the Cardinals enter into this equation, I don't see how anyone can enter them into the equation.
They have the 49ers twice, as well as the Panthers, Broncos, Cowboys, and Rams left to go.
If you want to make this whole NFC West race even sadder, the rest of the division can help take each other out of the race.
If the Cardinals and 49ers split their two games, that means both would have at least eight losses, if the Seahawks beat the 49ers, that means they would be mathematically eliminated if the Seahawks notched one more victory after that.
If the Cardinals and Seahawks both beat the Rams, and it's important to note that both contests are road games and St. Louis hasn't won on the road, that means they would have to win all of their remaining games to have a chance.
Here's an interesting one where all of the NFC West teams can take each other out of the race.
If the Cardinals and Seahawks both beat the Rams, and the Cardinals and 49ers split their games that means all three teams would have eight losses and would have to win all of their remaining games to finish 8-8.
This is all assuming of course, that the Seahawks finish the season 2-4 and don't beat the Panthers, Chiefs, or Falcons at home and crumble against Tampa Bay on the road.
The worst case scenario is those pesky Rams, the most significant way they can damage Seattle is to win at Qwest Field. This gives them the tiebreaker and if they were to go 5-0 in their remaining games they would win the west.
Or you could look at it this way, if Seattle merely finishes with a better record here on out the the rest of the division regardless of who they play, they win be default.
If each NFC West team loses one game, Seattle only needs to play .500 ball to guarantee the division.
If each NFC West team loses two games games, Seattle only needs two wins to guarantee the division title.
Now don't even get me started on the scenarios for an 8-8 finish, I thought about writing them but it's just too pathetic to comprehend.
Lets just say, a lot has to go right for those three teams and simultaneously the Seahawks would have to completely collapse and lose to any five of the Rams, 49ers, Panthers, Chiefs, Buccaneers, and Falcons, to truly lose grip on the division.
Somewhere, Pete Carroll is very happy the team he chose to coach is not in the NFC South.
 

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http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/29309/around-the-nfc-west-seattle-regressing

Tuesday, December 14, 2010
Around the NFC West: Seattle regressing?

By Mike Sando
ESPN.com

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Brock Huard of 101ESPN Seattle says the Seahawks are regressing on multiple levels after showing promise earlier in the season. Huard: "Outside of Mike Williams, David Hawthorne and Ben Obomanu, who has really flourished and grown as this season has progressed?" Huard raises questions about Aaron Curry, Earl Thomas, John Carlson, Kelly Jennings, Marcus Trufant, Marshawn Lynch, Golden Tate, Lofa Tatupu and Matt Hasselbeck. Setting the right expectations for Seattle can be more difficult because the team improbably finds itself competing for a division title. The Seahawks need building-block players on both lines. They increasingly need an ascending quarterback. Hasselbeck ranks 27th among NFL passing leaders (minimum 14 attempts per game). He has a passer rating of 76.0 or lower in four of his last five seasons, counting this one.

Clare Farnsworth of seahawks.com says coach Pete Carroll isn't seeing the steady improvement he wants. Carroll: "I think we’re going back and forth. I don’t feel the consistency of growth that I wish we were -- particularly here at the end of the season, where everybody’s working hard, everybody is the recipient of playing together for so long. If you get your stuff right you should be playing better, better, better as you go along if you’re doing things right. And it doesn’t feel like that. It feels like we’ve gone back and forth."
 

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