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The White House condemned North Korea's "belligerent" artillery attack Tuesday against a small South Korean island, a strike that left at least two dead and set dozens of buildings on fire at a tense time between the two countries.


The attack on the island of Yeonpyeong was the latest in an escalating series of provocations from the Communist country that is preparing for a leadership succession. South Korean officials said the North launched the attack after warning the country to halt military drills in the area.


A senior U.S. military official told Fox News the attack was nevertheless "unprovoked." The official said the first shots came from the North Korean side at around 2 p.m. local time -- this prompted an exchange of roughly 200 artillery rounds between the two sides that lasted until around 3:30 p.m.


"No one is interested in escalating this, but we are taking this very seriously," the official said.


Though the U.S. military was not involved in the exchange of fire, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs issued a pre-dawn statement saying Washington is "in close and continuing contact with our (South) Korean allies" about the situation.



"The United States strongly condemns this attack and calls on North Korea to halt its belligerent action and to fully abide by the terms of the Armistice Agreement," Gibbs said. "The United States is firmly committed to the defense of our ally, the Republic of Korea, and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability."


At least two South Korean Marines were killed in the attacks. Twenty South Koreans, both civilian and military, were injured. It's unclear whether there were any casualties on the North Korean side. There are about 30,000 U.S. military personnel in the region.


President Obama recently returned from a trip to South Korea and other Asian countries. A senior administration official said the president was woken up shortly before 4 a.m. by National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, who updated the president on the attack. Obama will get further updates during his daily intelligence briefing before heading to Indiana, where he's scheduled to make remarks on the economy.
Capt. John Kirby, spokesman for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen, said Mullen has also been kept "fully aware" of the North Korean attack.


"He is in close contact with our commanders in the region and is keeping the secretary of defense informed," Kirby said.


The attack came amid high tension over North Korea's claim that it has a new uranium enrichment facility and just six weeks after North Korean leader Kim Jong Il unveiled his youngest son Kim Jong Un as his heir apparent.


On Monday, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters the administration is studying the evidence a group of visiting American scientists used to conclude the North was building the enrichment facility, which presumably could be used to produce fuel for nuclear weapons.


"We will not be drawn into rewarding North Korea for bad behavior," he said. "They frequently anticipate doing something outrageous or provocative and forcing us to jump through hoops as a result. We're not going to buy into this cycle."


The North's artillery on Tuesday struck the small South Korean-held island of Yeonpyeong, which houses military installations and a small civilian population and which has been the focus of two previous deadly battles between the Koreas.
After the North's barrages, South Korea responded by firing self-propelled howitzers, but an official at South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff declined to say whether North Korean territory was hit.


This month, during a speech to U.S. troops stationed in South Korea, Obama said: "Pyongyang should not be mistaken: The United States will never waver in our commitment to the security of the Republic of Korea. We will not waver."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/23/condemns-north-korean-attack-south/#ixzz1688oYvRq
 

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lol.....it didn't fit 2 years ago when i was still in.....hated formal events where i had to put on the Class A's....
 

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2012...its all part of the plan
 

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I brought this news topic up this morning at morning coffee with several other folks some of whom are Veterans. I got alot of varied opinions but the one I most thought most interesting was population control. North Korea has been provoking and provoking with incidents for some time now with the torpedoed S Korean ship and this recent display at the forefront. They will not stop until they finally have their conflict I fear.
 

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lots of countries out there just need to be nuked and get it over with. cut out the bottom 5% so the rest of the world can live in peace
 

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Don't expect the current nut-less administration to do much besides "have talks".....

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lots of countries out there just need to be nuked and get it over with. cut out the bottom 5% so the rest of the world can live in peace




Agreed and the best/easiest way to look at it and justify it is simply consider it a larger, more extreme case of the death penalty when you are merely eliminating someone who is extremely dangerous and no use to the planet any longer...
 

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So let's suppose you could find a way to justify this war to our allies, the American people, and China. After clearing that enormous hurdle, there's still a few more problems that I can think of off the top of my head:

1. Seoul is something like 40 miles from the DMZ. Within minutes of an attack on the North, a barrage of DPRK artillery would turn the city in a firestorm, causing massive death and economic destruction, no nukes needed.
2. The possibility of total war on a massive scale when the DPRK sends over its immense army.
3. If a USA/ROK force succeeds in pushing into the North, or even captures Pyongyang, you can bet that the remaining DPRK forces are not just going to give up. The fanatical, brainwashed fighting forces would likely melt back into the villages and mountains, and the guerrilla warfare that would follow would take place among some of the harshest terrain in the East. Quagmire doesn't begin to describe it.
4. Chemical weapons, used against USA/ROK troops, or more likely, against civilian centers in the South or in Japan. Also, likelihood of a dirty bomb type attack.
5. China getting involved, either overtly or covertly, to prop up their failed client state.
 

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