HAVE PROBLEM: LOSING $$ ; NEED HELP and ADVICE maintaining discipline regarding my betting habits

the1yankee · Dec 14, 2010

ATTEN: LOST DISCIPLINE IN OHIO.all feedback and advice would be appreciated. i have 2 problems; the 1st: Putting action on the live games braodcast on my TV that i can watch at home, I feel that their is better value for my money in a lot of instances that are not televised in my area.example:betting on the 1 and 4 pm nfl gms i can watch in my area. this is not always but more than i would like!! ""2nd is my liking of parleys, probably too much! i find myself betting parleys of my favs or picks that i like for that night. ex:instead of playing 3 gms straight i would play em in a parley n maybe m/l 1 or 2 to help me increase my chance of winning. and anyone would rather hit their winning ticket at 5/1 insread of 1/.9, but parleys are way harder to cahs, obviously.A perfect example was last night loved the GIANTS -4 ' but really loved em at -3. so instead of eatin the juice of -140 to buy the pts and bet it single i look for a 2 tm parley to eat up the buy pts juice and go with dirk and mavs m/l w/GIA -3 in a 2 teamer to get a better price and get fucked by who of all people, myself. flush that BEN down the toilet!!!!. i know i have this problem and its costing me $$, because overall im winNING more $ then i lose but if i could eliminate these dumbfuck moments i am so capable of i would win AND MORE $ be better off then i am now AS FAR ASgambling profits go, obviously. im sure others have been in my shoes and i would surelove to get this shitty monkey off my back. any advice at all would be appreciated. habits are hard to break and maybe someone could give me some good advice to help me see the light i mean the green, thanks and happy holidays to you yours, the family and all that you love!! thanks

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Betallsports · Dec 14, 2010

You're a Square .....

as far as betting on "TV Games" those games... if you Really need to wager on
should be Your SMALLEST bet.

Parlays should really Only be bet when you are Up for the week, and you want to try to put a couple of teams together....just to see if you could add to your weekly winnings.

Yes if you bet them str8 out, you will Lose more...... But if you split, you only lose the juice.
In the long run, this will save you money.

I know it's hard to Change.... But You MUST to it....otherwise you will be a lifetime Loser........ and Nobody wants to be that.

Just my 2cents

DwayneBowe · Dec 14, 2010

Stop with the parlays

ChristianTroy · Dec 14, 2010

quit gambling

the1yankee · Dec 14, 2010

i am still winning $ o n my bets its just when i build up my bankroll i sometimes will do this, i will not quit somthing that is lucrative for me just sayin i am leaving money on table by these actions i know this and its just beibg able to follow thru with the discipline part

the1yankee · Dec 14, 2010

thanks for the feedback betall once i can break these bad habits the better but like they say bad habits are hard to break but i wanna hear it like that cause i been telling myself that and worse for a while

DwayneBowe · Dec 14, 2010

Well you said you're losing cash but now you said you're winning. Is it that you can win but you don't have the discipline so you'll make a large wager trying to get more action? No need to do that unless you're chasing your losses which you shouldn't do anyways.

Betallsports · Dec 14, 2010

the1yankee said:
thanks for the feedback betall once i can break these bad habits the better but like they say bad habits are hard to break but i wanna hear it like that cause i been telling myself that and worse for a while

You Will change.... it takes time

My first 3-4 years gambling was similar to yours... Got tired of losing....
TV games were the worst ! Beating on my Home Teams !
Learned that you can't Bet with your Heart..... you Must bet with your Head.
All that Homer shit gets Thrown out the window.

I use to bet the Board on Sunday ( every game ) Now I find the 4-5 games I like the most... and bet those.
and If I'm down going into the 4 o'clock games... I Don't chase
Next week is a New week.

Akillies · Dec 14, 2010

just flat bet, 1% max on each game

mrganja · Dec 14, 2010

i dont b et a game unless i can watch it and adjust,(if necessary) at the half..at one time i was betting too many 1st halves and it cost me..dont do that any more..

trytrytry · Dec 14, 2010

get multiple outs, multiple offshore books..AND get reduced juice outs..learn how to use the matchbook exchange. bet overlays your local has on soft lines and slow moving lines..dont even think of wagering on a TV game just cause its on TV who cares what is on TV......parlays? serious? unless you have overlays forget them....bet 1.5% of your bankroll in general, slightly more if you have a larger overlay, slighly less if you have a smaller overlay..shop shop shop for lines..give yourself a pat on the back if you beat the closing line with some line shopping..etc...

goblue12 · Dec 14, 2010

Well there's the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power way to gamble.

imp:

If you're serious about this, you need to do some reading about what kind of math tricks the ones who are making money are doing.

A few words of wisdom...

1. Stick to straight wagers - No parlays, no teasers / pleasers, etc. However, Wong Teasers in the NFL seem to be a hot trend.

2. Start keeping a track of your wagers - It's not the W/L record that really determines if you are a good bettor, but the ability to beat the closing number at market price on a consistent basis.

3. Find out what "money management" really means and stick to it - Which means no martingale, no flat betting, etc. You want to have more $$$ and less $$$ on certain games depending on your edge on market price. It's also vitally important to re-adjust your bankroll on a daily basis, which will cause you to tighten up / bet less on a cold streak and let it ride / bet more on a winning streak. A unit should be a percent of your current bankroll.

cincy_ · Dec 14, 2010

What I was in the 1990s, you are today.

Lesson 1: Bet 2 unders for every over
Lesson 2: Bet 2 dogs for every favorite
Lesson 3: Track how well the dogs are doing vs favorites

that's not how you should bet, but if you do that for a month, you will start seeing the value in dogs and unders. Once you are able to do it regularly, then you can go back to regular capping.

Also, it's tough to lay 20% of your bankroll on a +400 favorite, while people risk 50% on a SURE THING -600 favorite. So it teaches the value of money management when you make 2/3 rds of your bets on dogs.

Try it for a month. If not, you can put your entire bankroll on the Knicks tomorrow night and take a break from betting until Christmas.

jonnyangel · Dec 15, 2010

set it and forget it! Don't even watch the games so you don't get that "woulda shoulda coulda" attitude.

mpacman · Dec 15, 2010

betall if you're winning consistently why dont you post your pick regularly so some can tail ur picks? would that bankcrupt the sportsbook and eventually rx would lose some sponsors? just saying:lolBIG:

the1yankee · Dec 15, 2010

cincy about the bet 2 dogs 4 every fav u do know me cause that another id say quandry i have is too many favs in bets as i have a good read as i follow the sports i bet closely but if i like a fav i will bet it but if i dont think a 10-20 pt fav can cover because of the quality of their opponent will keep it within the # i would lay off translation i play about 60% of my bets straight with maybe the rest parlays with a few teasers sprinkled in, you make a lot of strong points that i will definitely factor in to my action thank u kind sir

the1yankee · Dec 15, 2010

Dwayne Bowe said:
Well you said you're losing cash but now you said you're winning. Is it that you can win but you don't have the discipline so you'll make a large wager trying to get more action? No need to do that unless you're chasing your losses which you shouldn't do anyways.

i do a little better then evening out on my betting but what happens is i make a deposit and have no problems increasing my deposit 4 or 5 times what i started with/ but then instead of betting like i would if i would have deposited the increased balance that i now have(a small and certain % of my bankroll per bet i would guess you could say i kind of go on tilt and sink like a rock in water till i ge down to 0 and have to re-up.(a #'s example I deposit $50 and play it the right way and get up to $200+. I then have a subpar day n lose say 30-50 bucks but stayin on track, then make a few 80-90$ bets cuz i fugure hey im only losin $50), i know its stupid but everyone knows how stubborn us humans can be, well thanks 4tha feedback( i cant even count how many times i have done this)

the1yankee · Dec 15, 2010

cincy_ said:
What I was in the 1990s, you are today.

Lesson 1: Bet 2 unders for every over
Lesson 2: Bet 2 dogs for every favorite
Lesson 3: Track how well the dogs are doing vs favorites

that's not how you should bet, but if you do that for a month, you will start seeing the value in dogs and unders. Once you are able to do it regularly, then you can go back to regular capping.

Also, it's tough to lay 20% of your bankroll on a +400 favorite, while people risk 50% on a SURE THING -600 favorite. So it teaches the value of money management when you make 2/3 rds of your bets on dogs.

Try it for a month. If not, you can put your entire bankroll on the Knicks tomorrow night and take a break from betting until Christmas.

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the1yankee · Dec 15, 2010

thanks to all who contribute to my therad and helping me try to break my addiction to undisciplinism

Akillies · Dec 15, 2010

the1yankee said:
i do a little better then evening out on my betting but what happens is i make a deposit and have no problems increasing my deposit 4 or 5 times what i started with/ but then instead of betting like i would if i would have deposited the increased balance that i now have(a small and certain % of my bankroll per bet i would guess you could say i kind of go on tilt and sink like a rock in water till i ge down to 0 and have to re-up.(a #'s example I deposit $50 and play it the right way and get up to $200+. I then have a subpar day n lose say 30-50 bucks but stayin on track, then make a few 80-90$ bets cuz i fugure hey im only losin $50), i know its stupid but everyone knows how stubborn us humans can be, well thanks 4tha feedback( i cant even count how many times i have done this)

think you answered your own question. but if you require logic, why would any one game be more 4/5/10 or more times likely to cash than any other? until you reach the skill level of being able to accurately quantify your advantage [very few are] most all your wagers need to be nearly the same amounts.