I play live local games usually 1-2 NL we have about 4-5 good houses that run very good games.. free food , on-time bonus chips ... pretty good comps . If I am up 150$ after about 3 hrs and im starting to go card dead ...I have no issues getting up and cashing out... In fact im happy about the small win. I am a grinder and I love a loose table where donks abound...
I try to take a whole different perspective. With donkeys at the table, I want to get as much money in good (+EV) as I can, and ignore the results.
If they suck out, they suck out. I look at every gambling situation in terms of +EV and -EV, and try to ignore short term results...
That being said, if I'm getting too tired, I'll leave no matter if I'm up or down...
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I agree with festeringZit: As long as I feel like I have an edge against most remaining players at the table and I'm not tired (and therefore losing my edge), I'll stay no matter how much I'm up or down. I just don't see any sense in shortening a +EV situation or looking at a single session and its results...
if the table is full of donks who come in at 2 at a time per pot/raise means the game is still beatable with low risk.... if you start seeing 4-5 people in a hand every hand... get up and run with your profits ... cause of those 5 calling every flop 3-4 are trying to suck out on you....
you should never leave a table that is full of inferior players and the play is fairly predictable unless you are too tired or too drunk.... if the table is wacky i prefer to leave and come back the next day
you should never leave a table that is full of inferior players and the play is fairly predictable unless you are too tired or too drunk.... if the table is wacky i prefer to leave and come back the next day
all depends. i usually try and double my original buy in as a goal, but i dont necessarily leave when i hit that amount. if im going to play and plan on going out that night ill usually leave at a set time (usualy say to myself leave between 8 and 9). i do think its good to have some sort of plan every time you go out and play live. for instance, i once was up 600 a few months back and felt like shit after an hour so i left. another time i was up about 1500 after 4 hours and stayed another 5 hours and cashed out 1600. if mentally youve checked out, always a good idea to leave or switch games at least.
your results are meaningless as to whether you should a game.
your criteria is simply am i able to play my "A" game and whether
the game is beatable. once you are tired, distracted, or the game
gets stronger; then you leave. the problem most players have
is that they overrate their abilities and underestimate their
opponents abilities. so they almost always think they are in
beatable game when in reality they are the fish. knowing
where one fits on the food chain is of paramount importance.
your criteria is simply am i able to play my "A" game and whether
the game is beatable. once you are tired, distracted, or the game
gets stronger; then you leave. the problem most players have
is that they overrate their abilities and underestimate their
opponents abilities. so they almost always think they are in
beatable game when in reality they are the fish. knowing
where one fits on the food chain is of paramount importance.
agree to an extent. definitely agree that most people think they are better then they are, but the opponents are never given enough credit. do disagree about the results not mattering. the goal in the end is to leave with more then you came with. we all get sucked out on, but no one wants to lose especially if they feel like they played well. i hate losing more then anything on this earth, but sometimes you gotta suck it up and take the loss when its time to go. im never gonna be happy about it though, even if i was "unlucky". as for results not mattering, i do hate when people say something was a good play cuz a guy got lucky on a hand, but if it wouldnt have worked they probably woulda laughed in his face.
when i say results are meaningless i assume that one is a winning player and
therefore each session is putting in the hours necessary to minimize fluctuations
from short term randomness. it's like going to the racetrack with a positive
expectation (either do to solid info or proven handicapping techniques) and
leaving if one hits the opening daily double. if one is focused on turning each
session into a profit then one will have a lot of small to medium wins
and a few huges losses where he was trying to get even for the session.
therefore each session is putting in the hours necessary to minimize fluctuations
from short term randomness. it's like going to the racetrack with a positive
expectation (either do to solid info or proven handicapping techniques) and
leaving if one hits the opening daily double. if one is focused on turning each
session into a profit then one will have a lot of small to medium wins
and a few huges losses where he was trying to get even for the session.
