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Updated: December 18, 2010, 2:06 PM ET
Sources: Magic blockbuster shaping up

By Chris Broussard

The Orlando Magic, already in serious trade talks with the Washington Wizards about acquiring Gilbert Arenas, are close to pulling off a separate trade with the Phoenix Suns, according to league sources.

The proposed trade, which one source gave a "90 percent" chance of happening, would return former Magic star Hedo Turkoglu, along with Jason Richardson, to Orlando in exchange for Vince Carter and Marcin Gortat.

The deal is likely to be completed within the next 24 hours, according to the sources.

"It's safe to say that it's imminent," one source said. "It's very close. There's always a chance it could fall apart, but it's 90 percent done."


He's probably similar to the guys we have in the locker room right now. I would say that sometimes good people make dumb decisions, and he's one of those guys.

-- Orlando Magic president Otis Smith
on Gilbert Arenas
The deal is believed to involve either a few extra players or draft picks, sources said.

Orlando, losers of five of its last six games, is also seriously pursuing Arenas. Sources said that deal will likely send Rashard Lewis to Washington for Arenas and a Wizards big man to replace Gortat. It could go down near the same time as the deal with Phoenix.

Magic president Otis Smith told The Associated Press on Saturday that he has had serious talks this week with the Wizards about acquiring Arenas.

Smith said he would rate the aggressiveness of the talks at an "eight out of 10" but that "nothing is imminent." He would not talk specifics of the potential deal with The AP.

The Magic have plenty of lucrative pieces to package in a trade, notably Carter's expiring contract. Lewis, who has 2½ years remaining on a $118 million, six-year deal, would line up with Arenas' backloaded contract -- which still has about $60 million left.

Arenas was at Washington's morning shootaround but did not speak to reporters.

"Have we had conversations with a number of teams regarding guys on our roster? Of course we have," Smith said. "Do we like losing five of six? Of course not. Yeah, there's conversations with Washington regarding Gilbert Arenas."

The latest round of talks, first reported by Yahoo! Sports, come as no surprise.

Smith has been a close friend and mentor to the troubled guard going back to their days together at Golden State, when Smith was in the front-office and Arenas was a young player. Smith has said in the past that Arenas' troubles, which included a 50-game suspension last season for bringing a gun into the Wizards' locker room and faking an injury to sit out a preseason game this year, are not a concern.

"The length of his contract and health probably have been more of my concerns," Smith said. "With the length of his contract, you're always concerned about taking on more, of course. That's always been one of my concerns. I know a little bit more detail about Gilbert off the court and who he is as a person.

"He's probably similar to the guys we have in the locker room right now. I would say that sometimes good people make dumb decisions, and he's one of those guys."

Arenas, a three-time All Star, has had several knee problems that limited him to 47 games over the previous three seasons. But while playing alongside -- and often behind -- No. 1 overall pick John Wall this season, Arenas has showed flashes of his old self.

He has averaged 17.3 points and 5.6 assists per game this season, including a season-high 31 points in a loss against the Magic on Nov. 27. The Magic have made strong pushes to acquire Denver's Carmelo Anthony and New Orleans' Chris Paul, but with those talks showing little progress, they might be forced to make another move.

Orlando has lost five of its last six games, including a frustrating 1-3 West Coast trip, falling from first to fourth in the Eastern Conference. The Magic were set to host Philadelphia on Saturday night, and Washington was hosting Miami.

"I circled the West Coast trip on our schedule a long time ago," Smith said. "The West Coast trip, to me, was going to decide whether or not we're going to either fix our woes or continue down the same path. I don't think we've played particularly well leading up to the West Coast trip. So, we were on the West Coast trip and some of our woes continued, so you start to explore opportunities that are out there."
 

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man, if they can unload Carter and get Heido and Richardson, they would definitely improve.....not to mention if they could somehow acquire Arenas as well, or even for Carter....they would definitely move ahead of Boston and right in line with Miami in the east...
 

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ESPN is reporting it is going to be Rashad Lewis for Arenas.
 

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Washington - Guard Gilbert Arenas to Orlando for Forward Rashad Lewis (Both players are doubtful for tonight's games)

Orlando is in trade talks with Phoenix that will send guard Vince Carter, forward Michael Pietrus and center Marcin Gortat for guard Jason Richardson, guard Hedo Turkoglu and forward Earl Clark.
 

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Turkoglu a definite addition, IMO, but I view Arenas as a clubhouse/clownhouse cancer
 

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Turkoglu a definite addition, IMO, but I view Arenas as a clubhouse/clownhouse cancer

Not sure how you see him as a cancer? Lead the Wiz back from being a joke to top seed in the east before he hurt his knee. Never had locker room problems till last year. He is a funny guy and very personable/likable. Not a guy who will make bad remarks about other players or the coach
 

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if they manage to get turk, richardson and arenas, and just lose carter , gortat and lewis, they will be right with Miami....those guys can all shoot lights out...and you surround Howard with even more firepower, and there is no way guys can gaurd all that offense...
 

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looks like its all but done. question is, how is orlando -6 1/2 tonight when they will be missing so many guys
 

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ESPN and the Arizona Republic both reporting the Phx/Orl deal is DONE

Carter Gortat, Pietrus and 2011 1st rounder for J Richardson, HedoTurk and Earl Clark
 

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And now the Orlando Sentinel reports the WAS/ORL deal is done as well

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-orlando-magic-trade-20101218,0,7827630.story

The Orlando Magic haven't just tweaked their roster.

They've overhauled it.

The Magic and the Washington Wizards have finalized a trade that will bring guard Gilbert Arenas to Orlando in exchange for forward Rashard Lewis, the Magic have announced.

Meanwhile, Marcin Gortat's agent confirmed to the Sentinel that the Magic have agreed to a trade with the Phoenix Suns that will bring Hedo Turkoglu, guard Jason Richardson and forward Earl Clark to Orlando in exchange for guard Vince Carter, Gortat, small forward Mickael Pietrus, a first-round pick and, possibly, cash considerations.
 

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u guys think this is a good trade? wow..

hedo is useless no matter wat team he goes too, just cos hes played in ORL before doesnt mean anything. hes clearly uninterested in the NBA anymore and has 0 motivation after his big pay day.
j-RICH can contribute some but looks to be very inconsistent as usual to me he is the same as pietrus maybe a little better so no improvement there.
what is arenas going to do with nelson as PG, im guessing he will be starting SG and that means theyre undersized and will struggle defensively. He is one player who can penetrate the lane but eversince his return he hasnt shown many signs of going back to his all star pace..

Now u combine all these 3 with loosing a SOLID rebounder/centre in gortat and whose gonna fill in that position when howard sits? bass? cmon now..

ontop of all that it will take sometime for those 3 to get use to the system and u can guarnattee it will result in them just chucking 3s up all day for sometime.

this trade looks and smells desperate as hell thats all and is clearly a ploy to get rid of lewis who clearly they regret signing to that max contract.

horrible trade and will make no improvement to the team. watch them struggle to make the playoffs now.i feel bad for dwight thats all
svg will be fired after this season.
 

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some1 want to explain to me how in the world this deal makes sense for the Suns? after Amare left, Richardson was their most explosive player. and Earl Clark was actually starting to develop. bone head move by Phoenix IMO.
 

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u guys think this is a good trade? wow..

hedo is useless no matter wat team he goes too, just cos hes played in ORL before doesnt mean anything. hes clearly uninterested in the NBA anymore and has 0 motivation after his big pay day.
j-RICH can contribute some but looks to be very inconsistent as usual to me he is the same as pietrus maybe a little better so no improvement there.
what is arenas going to do with nelson as PG, im guessing he will be starting SG and that means theyre undersized and will struggle defensively. He is one player who can penetrate the lane but eversince his return he hasnt shown many signs of going back to his all star pace..

Now u combine all these 3 with loosing a SOLID rebounder/centre in gortat and whose gonna fill in that position when howard sits? bass? cmon now..

ontop of all that it will take sometime for those 3 to get use to the system and u can guarnattee it will result in them just chucking 3s up all day for sometime.

this trade looks and smells desperate as hell thats all and is clearly a ploy to get rid of lewis who clearly they regret signing to that max contract.

horrible trade and will make no improvement to the team. watch them struggle to make the playoffs now.i feel bad for dwight thats all
svg will be fired after this season.

your underestimating Richardson IMO.
 

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some1 want to explain to me how in the world this deal makes sense for the Suns? after Amare left, Richardson was their most explosive player. and Earl Clark was actually starting to develop. bone head move by Phoenix IMO.

as i said. richardson could be decent for them but i doubt it. even if he is, in the orlando system he wont prove any big imporvement over what pietrus did.
also suns are in rebuilding mode, very good franchise there have conceited defeat and look to rebuild straight away
 

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if they manage to get turk, richardson and arenas, and just lose carter , gortat and lewis, they will be right with Miami....those guys can all shoot lights out...and you surround Howard with even more firepower, and there is no way guys can gaurd all that offense...


agree... I follow the magic a little as I am a fan of Superman and this will make them much much better..I am excited
 

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Pretty simple math here, with the balancing component being the surrender of the 2011 draft pick

Hedo > Gortat
Arenas > Vince
Richardson > RLewis
 

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Pretty simple math here, with the balancing component being the surrender of the 2011 draft pick

Hedo > Gortat
Arenas > Vince
Richardson > RLewis

Uhhh watching Gil all this year i wouldn't put him better than Vince. Gil's shot has been absent, their is no defense, and he is considerably slower/not getting calls/unable to get to the lane
 

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