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Netflix Is Abandoning DVDs, Customers Who Prefer DVDs




When Netflix started up more than 10 years ago, its sales pitch was pretty simple: Hey, subscribe to us, and we'll mail you DVDs that you can then mail back to us without worrying about any late fees. But as the rental market moves toward online and on-demand models, Netflix's iconic red envelopes may eventually become as antiquated as VHS tapes. Beefing up their streaming business, Netflix has predicted that in about two years their economics will be geared more toward their "Watch Instantly" service than through physical discs. For that to happen, Netflix will have to nudge their DVD-loyal customers to the new platform. And on Monday, the company learned just how hard that may be.
In a seemingly innocent 109-word blog post, Netflix director of product management Jamie Odell announced, "We're removing the 'Add to DVD Queue' option from streaming devices," suggesting that it was being done so that the company "can concentrate on offering you the titles that are available to watch instantly." Granted, the Netflix website still allows DVD queue updating, but this post, dropped on the morning of Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, created an immediate firestorm of comments -- most of them very, very angry.
"Clearly Netflix wants to send less discs through the mail, and therefore wants to make it more difficult for the user to add to their queue in furtherance of that," wrote "Eldendor." "Horrible idea!" wrote "usrbingeek." "Especially when there are still few titles available for streaming and the titles that you do have, seem to have very narrow license windows." On and on came the complaints, with most responders saying essentially (1) I like having access to DVDs even if I use a PS3 or mobile phone to stream movies on Netflix; and (2) there aren't enough good titles available on "Watch Instantly." "I think this is a totally foolish move on your part. I like to be able to add movies to my DVD queue from my iPhone," commented "b.dsign." "f this means that netflix is going to add more movies to watch instantly i support the change," "Beto" wrote, "but if they are not, then it's just a bad idea."
As of yet Netflix hasn't released any response, which, really, is their response. Whether customers like or not, Netflix knows that the future is moving away from physical discs and toward instant access. And, really, none of us who use Netflix should be surprised: Back in November the company announced that they were offering a new lower subscription rate for streaming-only customers while increasing the rate for people who still wanted DVDs. Right now, if you want DVDs from Netflix, the company is less than thrilled with you: They need you to get used to the idea of streaming films and TV shows so that you'll drop the physical disc habit: a craving, ironically, that they themselves created thanks to the ease of their iconic red envelopes.
But while Netflix is slowly discouraging the continued interest in DVDs, they face a different challenge even if their business model transformation succeeds. As Slate reported, if Netflix's streaming business takes off the way they think it will, it could prove a serious drain on America's broadband capacity, which is far less nimble than other countries'. Netflix is angering customers right now because the company wants to do away with DVDs: We don't even want to think of a future where Netflix angers the entire Internet community because too many people are streaming old episodes of "Friends" at the same time.

http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/432-netflix-is-abandoning-dvds-customers-who-prefer-dvds
 

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I think the whole legal streaming of television and movie content is wishful thinking and is destined to be an epic fail. There is too much money to be made in advertising in first run airs, physical DVD and Blu-Ray sales Pay Per View and TV syndication. If we can just simply stream anything we want to watch anytime we want legally in the manner of minutes the television and movie industry stands to lose a lot of money. The MP3 and Napster killed the music industry and no way are the big bosses going to step in the same shit twice.
 

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hosnatcher, Its in evitable, It WILL happen, no matter what, thats just how things are, think about it my friend, its just a matter of time. What the industry would have to do it ADAPT to the times, and they did with services like downloads for .99 cents and 1.99 etc with apple etc.

If you dont adapt, then you are in deep pooop
 

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Agreed - I think you'll see different "service" levels pop up as well.

Say, the Silver package, at $6.99 a month, which gets you movies that are 3+ months old. A gold package at $9.99 a month which gets movies 2+ months old. A platinum package at $12.99 which gets you movies that are 1+ month old. This still allows Hollywood to sell DVD/BRD in the stores when the movies first come out and they can take a good take there, then slowly lower the pricing as time goes on.

As for bandwidth, not sure about where you're at but my cable company is offering a ridiculous low price for a new service level with significantly higher bandwidth. Can't remember the details but the new service is only a few bucks more a month and blows away what I've currently got. Now I've got an old router in the house so I'm not upgrading the service into the house as the pipe outside matters little when the pipe inside is small. I got a BRD player for X-Mas from my sister and it has Netflix on it. I'm going to sign up for the service when I replace my router. I'll most likely increase the bandwidth as well at that time to allow for better streaming.

I'm not really the type of guy to go to a Cinema and pay $15.00 for a movie ticket per person (family of 5 so $75.00 for the movie) and at $10 for a popcorn and $5 for a bottle of water (x5), when I can get the same at home for significantly less. Going to the movies cost me $100.00. I can do SO much more with that $100 it's sick. As much as I loved Blockbuster and was there every weekend getting movies, I'm going to streaming sometime over the next 60 days and probably won't be looking back.
 

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netflix streaming is very limited. you can't get 'let it ride' at netflix, even on dvd. that is pitiful. still, friggin love netflix.
 

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Agreed - I think you'll see different "service" levels pop up as well.

Say, the Silver package, at $6.99 a month, which gets you movies that are 3+ months old. A gold package at $9.99 a month which gets movies 2+ months old. A platinum package at $12.99 which gets you movies that are 1+ month old. This still allows Hollywood to sell DVD/BRD in the stores when the movies first come out and they can take a good take there, then slowly lower the pricing as time goes on.

As for bandwidth, not sure about where you're at but my cable company is offering a ridiculous low price for a new service level with significantly higher bandwidth. Can't remember the details but the new service is only a few bucks more a month and blows away what I've currently got. Now I've got an old router in the house so I'm not upgrading the service into the house as the pipe outside matters little when the pipe inside is small. I got a BRD player for X-Mas from my sister and it has Netflix on it. I'm going to sign up for the service when I replace my router. I'll most likely increase the bandwidth as well at that time to allow for better streaming.

I'm not really the type of guy to go to a Cinema and pay $15.00 for a movie ticket per person (family of 5 so $75.00 for the movie) and at $10 for a popcorn and $5 for a bottle of water (x5), when I can get the same at home for significantly less. Going to the movies cost me $100.00. I can do SO much more with that $100 it's sick. As much as I loved Blockbuster and was there every weekend getting movies, I'm going to streaming sometime over the next 60 days and probably won't be looking back.



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If they want people to stream then the quality better go way up cause nothing can match bluray. Even when it says it's streaming in HD, it doesn't look like the HD quality you'd see in a bluray.
 

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Good move for NETFLIX that helps them cut costs.

The idea is great, but it might be a while before this practical for everyone
 

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anyone surprised by this? it is in their name...his was the plan from the get go...netflix...get it?

the best bargain in the history of bargains...love my netflix and have had zero problems in 14 months,never a skip or nothing...maybe your intranet is not strong enough or you don,t have a good router...have hooked to blu ray downstairs and roku upstairs...but have just been streaming thru computer lately,don't even need those 2 things could have done without...
 

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doesn't netflix stream in 720p? if you want blu-ray, you have to get it in the mail.
 

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The MP3 and Napster killed the music industry

Music downloading didn't kill the music industry. An industry that insisted on pushing out terrible, bland, cookie-cutter "bands" at a time when people were discovering new and easy way to find and listen to different types of artists shot itself. "Downloading hurts us" is just another music industry panic phrase, just like how they used to go nuts saying cassette taping from the radio hurt them. Truth is, the old-style music industry has been dying for a while. Maybe the horrible Boy Bands and homogenized radio from the late '90s/early '00s were the long overdue death throes.

Streaming movies, though, is the future. DVDs will join VCR tapes in the history books in a few years. For all the worry about losing money in theaters, etc., there's more to be made by making movies available in home, in high-quality at the same time as theater release. Streaming media players will drop quickly in size, cost and gain tremendously in quality. Five years from now it'll be commonplace.
 

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i use netflix streaming for tv episodes, but for movies it's all 720p and 1080p bluray rips from torrent sites... i've never had an issue /w netflix, but they just can't deliver the highest quality yet.
 

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I have Comcast and their connection sucks to be honest. The fastest I can download is 1.5mb per second. I've heard of people who download an entire bluray movie in 10 minutes.
 
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Music downloading didn't kill the music industry. An industry that insisted on pushing out terrible, bland, cookie-cutter "bands" at a time when people were discovering new and easy way to find and listen to different types of artists shot itself. "Downloading hurts us" is just another music industry panic phrase, just like how they used to go nuts saying cassette taping from the radio hurt them. Truth is, the old-style music industry has been dying for a while. Maybe the horrible Boy Bands and homogenized radio from the late '90s/early '00s were the long overdue death throes.

Streaming movies, though, is the future. DVDs will join VCR tapes in the history books in a few years. For all the worry about losing money in theaters, etc., there's more to be made by making movies available in home, in high-quality at the same time as theater release. Streaming media players will drop quickly in size, cost and gain tremendously in quality. Five years from now it'll be commonplace.

Solid, solid post here..
 

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