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GENEVA (Reuters) – Alcohol causes nearly 4 percent of deaths worldwide, more than AIDS, tuberculosis or violence, the World Health Organization warned on Friday.
Rising incomes have triggered more drinking in heavily populated countries in Africa and Asia, including India and South Africa, and binge drinking is a problem in many developed countries, the United Nations agency said.
Yet alcohol control policies are weak and remain a low priority for most governments despite drinking's heavy toll on society from road accidents, violence, disease, child neglect and job absenteeism, it said.
Approximately 2.5 million people die each year from alcohol related causes, the WHO said in its "Global Status Report on Alcohol and Health."
"The harmful use of alcohol is especially fatal for younger age groups and alcohol is the world's leading risk factor for death among males aged 15-59," the report found.
In Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), every fifth death is due to harmful drinking, the highest rate.
Binge drinking, which often leads to risky behavior, is now prevalent in Brazil, Kazakhstan, Mexico, Russia, South Africa and Ukraine, and rising elsewhere, according to the WHO.
"Worldwide, about 11 percent of drinkers have weekly heavy episodic drinking occasions, with men outnumbering women by four to one. Men consistently engage in hazardous drinking at much higher levels than women in all regions," the report said.
Health ministers from the WHO's 193 member states agreed last May to try to curb binge drinking and other growing forms of [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]excessive [COLOR=#366388 !important]alcohol [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]use[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] through higher taxes on alcoholic drinks and tighter marketing restrictions.
DISEASE AND INJURY
Alcohol is a causal factor in 60 types of diseases and injuries, according to WHO's first report on alcohol since 2004.
Its consumption has been linked to cirrhosis of the liver, epilepsy, poisonings, road traffic accidents, violence, and several types of cancer, including cancers of the colorectum, breast, larynx and liver.
"Six or seven years ago we didn't have strong evidence of a causal relationship between drinking and breast cancer. Now we do," Vladimir Poznyak, head of WHO's substance abuse unit who coordinated the report, told Reuters.
[COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Alcohol [COLOR=#366388 !important]consumption[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] rates vary greatly, from high levels in developed countries, to the lowest in North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa, and southern Asia, whose large Muslim populations often abstain from drinking.
Homemade or illegally produced alcohol -- falling outside governmental controls and tax nets -- accounts for nearly 30 percent of total worldwide adult consumption. Some is toxic.
In France and other European countries with high levels of adult per capita consumption, heavy episodic drinking is rather low, suggesting more regular but moderate drinking patterns.
Light to moderate drinking can have a beneficial impact on [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]heart [COLOR=#366388 !important]disease[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] and stroke, according to the WHO. "However, the beneficial cardio-protective effect of drinking disappears with heavy drinking occasions," it said.

One of the most effective ways to curb drinking, especially among young people, is to raise taxes, the report said. Setting age limits for buying and consuming alcohol, and regulating alcohol levels in drivers, also reduce abuse if enforced.
Some countries restrict marketing of alcoholic beverages or on the industry's sponsorship of sporting events.
"Yet not enough countries use these and other effective policy options to prevent death, disease and injury attributable to alcohol consumption," the WHO said.
[COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Alcohol [COLOR=#366388 !important]producers[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] including Diageo and Anheuser Busch InBev have said they recognize the importance of industry self-regulation to address alcohol abuse and promote curbs on drunk drinking and illegal underage drinking. But the brewer SABMiller has warned that policy measures like minimum pricing and high excise taxes on alcohol could cause more public health harm than good by leading more people to drink homemade or illegally produced alcohol.
 

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When you go to a Dr., one of THE 1st Q asked is, "do you smoke"?? Yes booze is an obvious villain, but as far as long range damage to all organs of the body nicotine is right up there. The smartest guy I ever met, Dr. Dick Heilman who was the Chief of Psychiatry @ Mpls VAMC said, he'd was addicted to every drug known to man, but the hardest to kick was tobacco. Not to diminish the devastating effects of alcohol abuse at all.
 

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When you go to a Dr., one of THE 1st Q asked is, "do you smoke"?? Yes booze is an obvious villain, but as far as long range damage to all organs of the body nicotine is right up there. The smartest guy I ever met, Dr. Dick Heilman who was the Chief of Psychiatry @ Mpls VAMC said, he'd was addicted to every drug known to man, but the hardest to kick was tobacco. Not to diminish the devastating effects of alcohol abuse at all.

Agree, tobacco/smoke way, way, way worse than moderate alcohol consumption..........but this should not undermine the severity of heavy alcohol consumption or even moderate drinking.

Limiting drinks to 1-3 per day and abstaining completely 1-2 days a week.............if one can do this, the benefits, in my non-professional opinion, outweight the negatives on the health front if one also exercises and eats a healthy diet. The key however is being able to stay within those parameters stated, not easy to do for the majority who consume alcohol.
 
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The smartest guy I ever met, Dr. Dick Heilman who was the Chief of Psychiatry @ Mpls VAMC said, he'd was addicted to every drug known to man, but the hardest to kick was tobacco.

When i was 20 i smoked a pack a day for weeks & was never addicted in the least.
Alcohol, though, i find, can be somewhat of a problem, since unlike cigarettes i
actually enjoy it.
 

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What about soda drinks/caffienne? Definitely an underrated health deterrent for many reasons.
 

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The risk/benefits of alcohol favor benefits.

Being able to relax, take the edge off.

Yeah, there are negatives.
 

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Eric Clapton once said in an interview that his alcohol addiction was much worse on his general health and abilty to function than any drug he took in his life. And I know he was hooked on heroin at one time.
 
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The risk/benefits of alcohol favor benefits.

Being able to relax, take the edge off.

Yeah, there are negatives.

Some say a drink a day is healthy. Three or more is probably the opposite in the
long haul, over months or years.

Like any good thing {drinking water, gambling} it can be used wisely with discipline
or abused unto ruin.
 

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It's worse only cause it's the most legal one and you have more people using it because of that.
 
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When you go to a Dr., one of THE 1st Q asked is, "do you smoke"?? Yes booze is an obvious villain, but as far as long range damage to all organs of the body nicotine is right up there. The smartest guy I ever met, Dr. Dick Heilman who was the Chief of Psychiatry @ Mpls VAMC said, he'd was addicted to every drug known to man, but the hardest to kick was tobacco. Not to diminish the devastating effects of alcohol abuse at all.


Silver, love ya but you're dead wrong here sir.. Alcohol causes people to Driver drunk, makes men beat up on their gf/wife and kids.. Lots of people homeless because of the effects of alcohol.. Could the same be said about smoking??

As far as what fishhead said, you basically said anything in moderation is okay and I agree 100%..
 

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Agree, tobacco/smoke way, way, way worse than moderate alcohol consumption..........but this should not undermine the severity of heavy alcohol consumption or even moderate drinking.

Limiting drinks to 1-3 per day and abstaining completely 1-2 days a week.............if one can do this, the benefits, in my non-professional opinion, outweight the negatives on the health front if one also exercises and eats a healthy diet. The key however is being able to stay within those parameters stated, not easy to do for the majority who consume alcohol.
i think you have it backward's, a 'social' drinker actually only drink's i-2 drink's, maybe 2-3 times a week..however, some just have a glass of wine once a nite also...to each their own...
 

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i think you have it backward's, a 'social' drinker actually only drink's i-2 drink's, maybe 2-3 times a week..however, some just have a glass of wine once a nite also...to each their own...

Your point Sherman?
 

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I don't see where FH referred to a "social" drinker.

If I didn't know better, think BETEDGE hits the bottle quite frequently before he posts.

Half the time the kid is talking out the side of his ear..............GOOD KID THOUGH.
 

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I don't see where FH referred to a "social" drinker.

well, maybe not in those exact word's, but it seemed like he was referring to to socially drinking. and fish, usually anymore than this start's to put one in the catagory of a problem drinker, maybe. some also might just be a 'heavy' drinker. some people believ that some people can drink once a yr and still have a 'prob' w alcohol....jmo...not trying to make a 'point', fish, relax....you should still be in a great mood since your packers won the sb...lol,,
 

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If I didn't know better, think BETEDGE hits the bottle quite frequently before he posts.

Half the time the kid is talking out the side of his ear..............GOOD KID THOUGH.
lol...i have not had a drink in 8 yrs now....had alot of training though.....maybe a lil barman 'special' smoke once in awhile though..:smoker2:
 

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