Letter from Roger Goodell to NFL Fans!!

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Dear NFL Fan,

When I wrote to you last on behalf of the NFL, we promised you that we would work tirelessly to find a collectively bargained solution to our differences with the players' union. Subsequent to that letter to you, we agreed that the fastest way to a fair agreement was for everyone to work together through a mediation process. For the last three weeks I have personally attended every session of mediation, which is a process our clubs sincerely believe in.

Unfortunately, I have to tell you that earlier today the players' union walked away from mediation and collective bargaining and has initiated litigation against the clubs. In an effort to get a fair agreement now, our clubs offered a deal today that was, among other things, designed to have no adverse financial impact on veteran players in the early years, and would have met the players’ financial demands in the latter years of the agreement.

The proposal we made included an offer to narrow the player compensation gap that existed in the negotiations by splitting the difference; guarantee a reallocation of savings from first-round rookies to veterans and retirees without negatively affecting compensation for rounds 2-7; no compensation reduction for veterans; implement new year-round health and safety rules; retain the current 16-4 season format for at least two years with any subsequent changes subject to the approval of the league and union; and establish a new legacy fund for retired players ($82 million contributed by the owners over the next two years).

It was a deal that offered compromise, and would have ensured the well-being of our players and guaranteed the long-term future for the fans of the great game we all love so much. It was a deal where everyone would prosper.

We remain committed to collective bargaining and the federal mediation process until an agreement is reached, and call on the union to return to negotiations immediately. NFL players, clubs, and fans want an agreement. The only place it can be reached is at the bargaining table.

While we are disappointed with the union's actions, we remain steadfastly committed to reaching an agreement that serves the best interest of NFL players, clubs and fans, and thank you for your continued support of our League. First and foremost it is your passion for the game that drives us all, and we will not lose sight of this as we continue to work for a deal that works for everyone.



Yours,
Roger Goodell
 

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Hey owners - if you are not willing to open your books, go fuck yourselves.

Why would anyone believe you on the financials if you won't provide them?
 
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Dear NFL Fan,

When I wrote to you last on behalf of the NFL, we promised you that we would work tirelessly to find a collectively bargained solution to our differences with the players' union. Subsequent to that letter to you, we agreed that the fastest way to a fair agreement was for everyone to work together through a mediation process. For the last three weeks I have personally attended every session of mediation, which is a process our clubs sincerely believe in.

Unfortunately, I have to tell you that earlier today the players' union walked away from mediation and collective bargaining and has initiated litigation against the clubs. In an effort to get a fair agreement now, our clubs offered a deal today that was, among other things, designed to have no adverse financial impact on veteran players in the early years, and would have met the players’ financial demands in the latter years of the agreement.

The proposal we made included an offer to narrow the player compensation gap that existed in the negotiations by splitting the difference; guarantee a reallocation of savings from first-round rookies to veterans and retirees without negatively affecting compensation for rounds 2-7; no compensation reduction for veterans; implement new year-round health and safety rules; retain the current 16-4 season format for at least two years with any subsequent changes subject to the approval of the league and union; and establish a new legacy fund for retired players ($82 million contributed by the owners over the next two years).

It was a deal that offered compromise, and would have ensured the well-being of our players and guaranteed the long-term future for the fans of the great game we all love so much. It was a deal where everyone would prosper.

We remain committed to collective bargaining and the federal mediation process until an agreement is reached, and call on the union to return to negotiations immediately. NFL players, clubs, and fans want an agreement. The only place it can be reached is at the bargaining table.

While we are disappointed with the union's actions, we remain steadfastly committed to reaching an agreement that serves the best interest of NFL players, clubs and fans, and thank you for your continued support of our League. First and foremost it is your passion for the game that drives us all, and we will not lose sight of this as we continue to work for a deal that works for everyone.



Yours,
Roger "Clown" Goodell


There..... I Fixed it for you !
 

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Hey owners - if you are not willing to open your books, go fuck yourselves.

Why would anyone believe you on the financials if you won't provide them?


The NFL Is a private organization.. The Players are employees.. Its none of the players god damn business how much the owners make.. If you owned a business and the employees wanted to know how much you make what would you tell them?
If the players dont like it have them start their own league.............
 

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there are many.many dumb owners who inherited money who lose money on the nfl because of their stupidity. e.x. daniel snyder. owners don.t want their books open because it would show how much money they could make if they knew what was going on. c'mon the packers make money.
 

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The NFL Is a private organization.. The Players are employees.. Its none of the players god damn business how much the owners make.. If you owned a business and the employees wanted to know how much you make what would you tell them?
If the players dont like it have them start their own league.............
Spot on.

There's a reason why the NFL is the most successful sport in the business, and it's not because of the players.
 

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Youre kidding right? This league is absolutely successful because of the players, take a look at how successful it was when replacement players were used. Although you cant really make a comparison to other companies I will give you one.

Say youre in sales and you are bringing in millions to your company. The company owner one day tells you that he needs to lower your commission rate because he is losing money (even though he just drove in in his new car). You will be skeptical and have the right to ask how the company is losing money. If the owner just looks at you and says "trust me, we are losing money" without any proof, your are obviously going to think hes lying to your face and start looking for a job with one of the competitors. Well, the players dont have any competitors to go to and they definately dont believe that the owners are as bad off as they say.


The owners here believe that the fans are fucking morons, because they are trying to make the players look like the bad guys here. The NFL owners do not share all revenues with each other so while all owners are making money, the bigger markets are making alot more than the smaller markets. Even though revenues are growing every year, the owners want the players to get less so the smaller owners can be satiated. Teams like Dallas, New England, New York can get more suite and sponsorship $ at their stadiums, and they dont share that with anyone. Poor Jerry Richardson isnt making as much.

If anyone thinks that the owners care about anything other than money you arent paying attention. The players absolutely need to be taken care of after they retire, too many of them have health issues related to years of playing football.
 
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Imo the average fan doesn't really care about who's in the right here. They just want their football. Neither the owners or the players give a crap about the fans.
 

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The NFL Is a private organization.. The Players are employees.. Its none of the players god damn business how much the owners make.. If you owned a business and the employees wanted to know how much you make what would you tell them?
If the players dont like it have them start their own league.............
:103631605:103631605:103631605:103631605:103631605:103631605:103631605I hear the Arena League is hiring:):):):):):):):).
 

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Where the problem lies is the owners don't want to let other owners see their books.
Because some owners who get subsidised don't spend their money back into their own teams.
 

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My 2 cents FWIW...Random thoughts on the NFL lockout out and US sports in general.

How many times have we read after a big name player signs a new multi million dollar long term deal "Financial terms being withheld by players request"? Almost weekly in one sport or another.

Stockholders who have invested their own money in a team by buying x number of shares have a right to see the team they invested in profit and loss sheets but players, coaches, vendors who sell beer and hot dogs etc are no different than any employee in any industry. Do I have the right to see the books of the Rx.com because I am a moderator in their employ - of course not.

The median salary in the NFL in 2009 was roughly $770,000 per player. Not including benefits. Take the players side if you want but if you ask me they are greedy and could give a shit less about the fans that are the source of their huge paychecks.

For now, the NFL is out of business. That affects the jobs of everyone from team owner to the toilet cleaners. I feel badly for the toilet cleaners and other workers who earn what it takes to support their families if they are lucky working in jobs many people would love to have.

The players on the other hand IMO are already overpaid but are still not satisfied to be among the top one or two % of wage earners in the world.

Athletes talented enough to play big time football make no financial investment at any point in time and for the most part are pampered from high school on through a free ride at a university that charges a normal student exorbitant tuition to attend even the most mediocre academic institutions.

Try paying for a non-scholarship student's expenses at schools like USC, Duke, Stanford, Boston College and hundreds of others. Sure skilled athletes deserve to be well compensated if they manage to get to the pro level but there has to be limit somewhere. The average 40 hour a week worker in the US is hard pressed to pay for season tickets in any of the major sports - college or pro.

The average price of an NFL ticket last season was $75 for regular season games and double that for playoffs. Take the wife and two kids to a Dallas Cowboy game in October. Getting off without spending at least $500 for the day is a bargain these days. How much is an 18 ounce flat and warm by the time you drink it drought beer, just guessing but $10 would not surprise me.

If any pro athlete in the US has a legitimate beef against the owners they work for it is the journeymen jockeys who risk their lives every time they ride, but that is another discussion for another time.

Now the only people making money from The NFL are the lawyers on each side as they charge outrageous fees to try and win needless lawsuits filed by both sides. All the while the fans who pay for everything wait out what could be a long drawn-out court battle. There will be no winners if this becomes a long season killing dispute between law firms (except the lawyers who will of course make millions).

If I had my way I would push back the CFL season and move half of their games to football towns like Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Baltimore, Kansas City, Dallas, and Denver and start a new league. Eventually it would develop into a new NFL with new stars and fans.

I am sure those Canadian league players whose average salary is around $50,000 per season would not hesitate to play their games in what are now un-scheduled NFL stadiums for at leat four times the money they are making now.

To hell with both the owners and players of the kill the Goose that laid the Golden Egg NFL.

wil.
 

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Its tough to say the players are overpaid, the money is there, it is either going to the owner or the player. Its up to each individual to decide who deserves it more.

This will get settled well before any games are lost, but this is definately a black eye for the sport. In these economic times we have grown men fighting like school girls over $9 Billion.

The one thing that everyone can agree on is that neither the owners nor the players gives a shit about the fans that are solely responsible for their livelihood.
 

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Why not make it a bit easier for the average working man to take his son to see a big time professional game.

Why not make it a little less expensive for the working man in the US to take his son (or daughter) to a NFL or MLB game rather than give more millions to the owners or the players..The NBA and NHL are similar in costs.

How much does the average MLB or NFL player deserve when his contribution to society is compared to that of teachers, firemen, engineers, policemen, construction workers like electricians, plumbers, carpenters etc. etc. We can survive without football players but if every teacher in the country went on strike where would that leave us.

I admit a talented player should be well compensated but $100M for six years pitching every fifth day for example pales in comparison to many occupations that earn less than one 100th of that figure.

Who contributes more to society - a pitcher who maybe wins 12 to 15 games a season (a good example is Mark Buehrle of The White Sox who made $14M last year for going 13-13 with a 4.28 ERA - not a criticism of Buehrle, just making a point) and makes more than $10M to do it or a high school science teacher who earns around $50K per year before taxes?

Please tell me why these 25 baseball players deserved these salaries last season.

Top 25 MLB Player Salaries according to USA Today Data Base.
RANK PLAYER TEAM SALARY POSITION
1 Alex Rodriguez New York Yankees $ 33,000,000 Third Baseman
2 CC Sabathia New York Yankees $ 24,285,714 Pitcher
3 Derek Jeter New York Yankees $ 22,600,000 Shortstop
4 Mark Teixeira New York Yankees $ 20,625,000 First Baseman
5 Johan Santana New York Mets $ 20,144,707 Pitcher
6 Miguel Cabrera Detroit Tigers $ 20,000,000 First Baseman
7 Carlos Beltran New York Mets $ 19,401,569 Outfielder
8 Ryan Howard Philadelphia Phillies $ 19,000,000 First Baseman
8 Carlos Lee Houston Astros $ 19,000,000 Outfielder
8 Alfonso Soriano Chicago Cubs $ 19,000,000 Outfielder
11 Carlos Zambrano Chicago Cubs $ 18,875,000 Pitcher
12 John Lackey Boston Red Sox $ 18,700,000 Pitcher
13 Manny Ramirez Los Angeles Dodgers $ 18,695,006 Outfielder
14 Torii Hunter Los Angeles Angels $ 18,500,000 Outfielder
14 Barry Zito San Francisco Giants $ 18,500,000 Pitcher (only player on World Series winning Giants - ironically saw no action in WS)
16 Ichiro Suzuki Seattle Mariners $ 18,000,000 Outfielder
17 Magglio Ordonez Detroit Tigers $ 17,825,976 Outfielder
18 Todd Helton Colorado Rockies $ 17,775,000 First Baseman
19 Aramis Ramirez Chicago Cubs $ 16,750,000 Third Baseman
20 A.J. Burnett New York Yankees $ 16,500,000 Pitcher
21 Matt Holliday St. Louis Cardinals $ 16,333,327 Outfielder
22 Chris Carpenter St. Louis Cardinals $ 15,840,971 Pitcher
23 Roy Halladay Philadelphia Phillies $ 15,750,000 Pitcher
24 Vernon Wells Toronto Blue Jays $ 15,687,500 Outfielder
25 Hiroki Kuroda Los Angeles Dodgers $ 15,433,333 Pitcher

Pro sports is out of control when it comes to paying some players over $20M for a season while charging fans an average of almost $200 for a family of four. MLB's Fan Cost Index is nearly $200 per game. The Fan Cost Index (FCI) measures the cost to take a family of four to a sporting event.

Boston remains the most expensive team in MLB, with an FCI of $334.78, followed by the Cubs at $329.74 and the Yanks at $316.32.

The average MLB ticket costs $26.74, up just slightly from a year ago. The average FCI is $195.08.

The Dodgers weren't exactly cheap, with an average ticket price of $29.66 and an FCI of $221.64. In the Blue Crew's defense, a family could always take the free shuttle and sit in the All-You-Can-Eat Pavilion.

The NFL logged an FCI of $420 per game with the Cowboys leading the way at a whopping $617 per game for a family of four.
 

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The NFL Is a private organization.. The Players are employees.. Its none of the players god damn business how much the owners make.. If you owned a business and the employees wanted to know how much you make what would you tell them?
If the players dont like it have them start their own league.............

I started off being in favor of the players, but I pretty much came to this same conclusion after thinking about it.
 

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what i dont get is whatever the owners lose they will just pass on to the fans through ticket prices, concession, and parking. nobody will lose but the fans in this deal. so just agree on something pass the loss on to the fans and business as usual.
 

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what i dont get is whatever the owners lose they will just pass on to the fans through ticket prices, concession, and parking. nobody will lose but the fans in this deal. so just agree on something pass the loss on to the fans and business as usual.

They cant. First the owners arent losing anything, some just arent making as much as others. That is one of the reasons they wont open the books, it will show each team showing a profit.

The loudest owners are the smaller markets. For instance, Charlotte cannot charge what Dallas can. So while Dallas is making money hand over fist, Charlotte is only making money and really cant charge much more in their market. The bigger market owners are fucking the smaller market owners and they all want the players to make up the difference.
 

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who really cares.

people will be lining up for the league when it comes back.

nfl is the politics of the 21st century.

it is more important then the rising gas, etc. to most people.
 

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