This "Superstar Showdown" poker thing. I have to rate this a coin toss @+193

basesAREloaded · Mar 16, 2011

I know Negreanu. He was on the scene earlyish. Don't know who this Blom chap is. Don't care. Any player at the rx, whether they play well or not, can beat anyone online any given day.

Watched Pinny price Negreanu early @+155, then 163, then 171, now +193.

Pulling the trigger @ +110 would be value. Here we are @+193. If the chips are even, my girlfriend could win.

Maybe this one will land on the "heads up", and then maybe tails.

GL+

JakeT. · Mar 17, 2011

"Viktor Blom is alleged to have deposited $2000.00 on Ipoker and ran it up to $1.5 million in 2 weeks with his hyper aggressive style."

Voodoo7 · Mar 17, 2011

If this was played live i'd give Daniel the edge but playing 4 tables online is not his strong suit, Bloom has IMO a greater than 2-1 edge over Daniel here. Tony G gave it a go and although ahead early he more or less got dominated over the course of the last 1500 hands, expect much of the same here. Daniel's only saving grace is that this is spread over 2 weekends so chances are he'll have a better 2nd week then first after analyzing his hand history.

Voodoo7 · Mar 21, 2011

Daniel busted approx 1500 hands into the 2500 hand first day challenge. They'll start with a fresh 150K next week. He ran bad but Bloom's online game is still better.

WorldNumberOne · Mar 21, 2011

i wonder if they are using the same random card generator they use when i play ..

you know , the one that always flops the other guy trips or goes runner runner every fucking time i have someone dominated ... or better yet , the one that gives us both pocket queens and then runs his into a flush....

ProPokerPlayer · Mar 21, 2011

Negreanu wont beat him if they play 15 times.....

And no they dont use the same rigging for all games. Do a lil experiment. Pull up 4 Omaha hi/lo tables then right next to it pull up 4 say 2/4NL full ring tables.
Now the game has nothing to do with which cards are dealt right? Record the flops on all the tables and see if the hi/lo tables wont have an overwhelming number of low cards on the flop while the NL will have the same high % of face cards.....you play 10 hands of O8B and u will see more 3 card low flops than u will see in 2 hours at a NL game.....

I meant to say YOU will see this....i ofcourse see J6os every hand so i have no idea what a flop is...

HarryCaray · Mar 21, 2011

ProPokerPlayer said:
Negreanu wont beat him if they play 15 times.....

And no they dont use the same rigging for all games. Do a lil experiment. Pull up 4 Omaha hi/lo tables then right next to it pull up 4 say 2/4NL full ring tables.
Now the game has nothing to do with which cards are dealt right? Record the flops on all the tables and see if the hi/lo tables wont have an overwhelming number of low cards on the flop while the NL will have the same high % of face cards.....you play 10 hands of O8B and u will see more 3 card low flops than u will see in 2 hours at a NL game.....

I meant to say YOU will see this....i ofcourse see J6os every hand so i have no idea what a flop is...

Ever actually taken numbers on this? Just curious.

And as a side note, the game being played would have an effect on the content of the flop: in hold'em, if players have a lot of low cards the hand is probably less likely to get to the flop at all. If they hold high cards, more likely to get to the flop, and flop will result in more low cards (cause the high ones are in the hands). This example is in paradox to what you have observed, but my point is this: comparing the flops of two different games where the types of player holdings affect the likelihood of the flop coming out at all is wildly invalid in a statistical sense.

ProPokerPlayer · Mar 21, 2011

HarryCaray said:
Ever actually taken numbers on this? Just curious.

And as a side note, the game being played would have an effect on the content of the flop: in hold'em, if players have a lot of low cards the hand is probably less likely to get to the flop at all. If they hold high cards, more likely to get to the flop, and flop will result in more low cards (cause the high ones are in the hands). This example is in paradox to what you have observed, but my point is this: comparing the flops of two different games where the types of player holdings affect the likelihood of the flop coming out at all is wildly invalid in a statistical sense.

I dont understand what the cards in their hand could have to do with what comes on the flop. you deal 18 cards the next 5 have nothing to do with what the 1st 9 were.....same if u dealt 18....the next 5 should be as random as any. sure nl players have the high cards in their hands and the low ones in the muck with the exact opposite for hi/lo but still that doesnt effect the flop....

Now ill get way off course. i just got an invitation to preview a video training lesson from a WPT winner. 13 mins into the 1st video he goes all in after a min raise with Q10os and the raiser calls with KQs. He spikes a 10 on the flop and says " That is why my ROI is so high"...........That is the 1st line spoken by a pro in training video that ive heard that told it just how i see it. They have their 8% of players who are going to win ALL the money and the other 92% (thats me and us) to make all the deposits....every once in a while they'll toss u some crumbs just to keep u coming back....

HarryCaray · Mar 21, 2011

ProPokerPlayer said:
I dont understand what the cards in their hand could have to do with what comes on the flop.

That's not what I'm saying. You only see the flops that come out; i.e. you aren't accounting for the hands that are taken down preflop...the hole cards that produce these hands differ between the games.

It doesn't affect the 18th, 19th, and 20th card in the freshly-shuffled deck (i.e. the flop cards in an 8 handed game), but it does affect whether or not you see them (and subsequently what you record and observe).