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I think the savings would be very minimal here, like maybe 25 cents on a fill-up ?

The thing is my brother sent me this ( he's an electrical engineer).

This was sent to me by a friend to save on gas. It has been checked out on snopes and by a friend that's in the oil industry.



TIPS ON PUMPING GAS

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are paying up to $3.75 to $4.10 per gallon. My line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon:



Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.



1. Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role.



A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.



When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. You should be pumping on low mode, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.



One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL. The reason for this is the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.


SUMMARY:

1. Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning

2. You should be pumping gas on the low flow setting

3. Fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL

4. Don’t buy gas when the truck is delivering


Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up; most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

To have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. It's really simple to do.



I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)...and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers !!!!!!! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!



If It goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!



Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How long would it take?
 

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It all makes sense , I dont know how much really your going to be saving but every point he made is true. More saving at the pump has to do with how you drive and maintain your vehicle more then any . IE tires always inflated to right pressures , Dont carry an unnecessary weight in the vehicle , Lots of little stuff out there to help save on the pumps.
 

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have heard all this before....and while it may not save alot, it certainly cant hurt if you simply make it part of your normal routine
 

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Snopes.com classifies it as a mixture of fact and urban legend:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp

The summation of it all:
The bottom line is that there are much easier and better ways of improving the efficiency of your car (and thus of saving you money at the pump) than the tips outlined above. Particularly important is proper maintenance, including engine tune-ups, wheel alignments, tire pressure checks, and filter replacement. Mileage can also be improved by removing from the car little-used equipment that adds weight or increases drag (e.g., sporting gear, tools, roof racks/carriers). Driving habits are especially important: jackrabbit stops and starts eat up extra fuel, as does driving at higher speeds. All in all, the simple habit of engaging in planning and combining multiple trips into one excursion will likely save the average motorist far more money (and time) than all four of the above tips combined.​
 

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Number 3 isn't true. You should fill up when your tank is half empty.
 

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Yeah. I bet I would save 13 cents a week if I did that.

I would save many times more than that by just playing at reduced juice shops and shopping for lines.

Here's a better tip. Buy a Prius.
 

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just as spending money can never be saving money. Using gas is never saving it

The only thing that could possibly be considered saving gas is to not drive

There are lots of ways to cut back on gas spending. Obviously driving less is the most efficient way. The things listed here are pretty marginal. Eliminating some silly driving habits that most people have like accelerating into a red light, then accelerating so rapidly as soon as it turns green will have a much bigger impact on how much gas you use than the temperature of the fuel when you fill your tank

(driving the speed limit is probably the biggest thing, but when you drive faster, at least you cut back on time spent traveling, which is important because you'll need that time to work to earn money to pay for all the gas you wasted driving so fast. . . )
 

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The stuff about getting gas when it's cold is absolutely true. In fact the gas stations in Alaska have some kind of mechanism to correct the temp offset.
 

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The problem is the calibration is in the pumps. They check those pumps a lot to make sure they are calibrated in Oklahoma they even have the sticker with the date of the last calibration. If it's a gallon going through the hose it's a gallon when it hits your tank.
 

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The stuff about getting gas when it's cold is absolutely true. In fact the gas stations in Alaska have some kind of mechanism to correct the temp offset.


OK. I can buy the temperature variation arguement.

I don't buy this stuff being close to 1% different when filling a gas tank.

I can't see topping off a half tank and slow pumping it to save 10 cents.
 

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If you got it in an email, there is a 99% chance that it's bullshit.
 

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Yeah. I bet I would save 13 cents a week if I did that.

I would save many times more than that by just playing at reduced juice shops and shopping for lines.

Here's a better tip. Buy a Prius.


I agree... it doesn't matter.

my reply to my engineer brother...

How much do you really think you could save by slow pumping the gas and refueling at half-full only in the morning ? I think you're likely looking at less than 25 cents on a fill-up, unless I'm dead wrong ?

I avoid a fresh gas delivery , mainly because the delivery truck is in the way and also the sediment issue. Once the tanker truck is gone, you'll never know it was delivered just a few minutes ago.

I think one could do a lot better via other conservation efforts

proper tire pressure
not speeding
removing heavy junk like golf clubs from your trunk
slower acceleration
combining trips
etc.

I drive an old ( 2000) F-150 4X4 but not very much ( maybe 8,000 miles a year), it's more of a second "car". It gets right around 17mpg with a 4.2 L 6 cylinder. I got the the truck really cheap ( $4800) from a guy moving to Florida a few years ago. It's pretty perfect, some neighbors thought it was new at 8 years old ! we use Angela's Honda more. I'd rather drive the old F-150 if operating costs were more equal. Her 2007 Honda has more mileage ( about 123k) than the 2000 Ford ( about 117k).

The 17 MPG does suck, though ! So would paying 30k + for a hybrid Prius or something that gets the 40+ MPG.

Gas is pretty serious business to the US economy. My truck costs over 20 cents a mile to drive just in gasoline. Going to a Costco or something that is 50 miles away costs over $20 in just gas. A guy could be spending $100 a week on gas just going to work and back.that is like 10% of your gross earnings at a decent $20+ / per hour job. Mass transit isn't much of an option in most of the USA, either.

I can see some huge problems coming worldwide, I'm glad I've lived most of my life already, the future doesn't look so great ( IMO).

Cheers,

Doug
 

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They've done studies after studies on #1.

It does not matter. The tank is in the ground where the temerature is cooler. Once you get that deep, the temp is about the same day or night, or morning or whenever.
 

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They've done studies after studies on #1.

It does not matter. The tank is in the ground where the temerature is cooler. Once you get that deep, the temp is about the same day or night, or morning or whenever.

I can't believe my brother is forwarding this BS like a chain letter, Niggerian scam or bill Gates fortune dispersal thingie !

The way I see it is none of this matters.
 

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NO !

You can't do crazy stuff like running on grease.

You can run an older Honda/ Toyota car and get 35 MPG.

Modern electric cars are unproven, IMO.
 

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The thing about filling up at half a tank I have been doing for years and I always get grief
from friends and family. The other thing I do is keep my tires properly inflated. The store
where I bought my tires from has a express lane where you can pull up at anytime roll down
the window and ask them to check all four tires without having to ever get out of the car/truck.
They have a person who that is all they do. So you never have to wait.
 

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