Final Decision of the Cory1111 dispute involving his play in The Easystreetsports.com Casino.

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I have after a lengthy examination of all the facts in my possession come to a decision to recommend that Easystreet not pay Cory111 the balance of $46,000.
The $46,000 in question are indeed the direct result of him hitting three Royal Flushes in a period of 499 minutes of play that included no less than 8762 hands during a prolonged Jacks or Better Video Poker session that began on Monday, February 28th and ended on Tuesday March 1st..

The reasons for my decision have absolutely nothing to do with Cory1111's tarnished player reputation which was uncovered during my intense investigation. I am basing my decision solely on his play during the 499 minutes mentioned above.

My direct reasons for my carefully derived at decision:

1. Cory1111's reluctance to prove his innocence.

This could have been easily done by Cory simply accepting, the now well discussed, all expenses paid trip to Costa Rica.

In an effort to make the trip as safe as possible I made several concessions that Cory originally requested such as a secret arrival and departure date to and from Costa Rica. I also agreed to not disclose the hotel where he would reside during the visit. I assured him that he could be accompanied by anyone he wanted at all times during his visit including employees of SBR. All of whom would be allowed to oversee 100% of his activities that involved any contact with Easystreetsports

2. Once again, Cory1111's reluctance to prove his innocence.

The Rx.com and I personally guaranteed all pre-arranged expenses to and from Costa Rica including a per diem allowance of $100 per day that would be paid to Cory if he fulfilled two tasks. These funds were to be paid to Cory regardless whether he passed or flunked these tasks.

The tasks were as follows;

First, Cory would agree to a simple polygraph test that would only be concerned with his video poker play at Easystreetsports, as described above.

Secondly, Cory would be asked to simply attempt to duplicate and demonstrate in person the 326 minutes session which includes breaks.

If Cory passed both agreed tasks he would receive his balance in full either on the spot or in more complicated but easily accomplished means so that he would be able to receive the funds in a fashion that was best suited to his welfare when re-entering the US.

3. Cory1111's outright refusal to take a polygraph, that would in no way be designed to incriminate him for any of his past transgressions but simply be focused solely on only the events at hand and also would be detailed and predetermined on a legal document prepared and agreed upon by all parties prior to Cory taking the polygraph.

4. After leaving the offer on the table for a full week with no further correspondence from Cory indicating that he would accept the offer in that time, I was forced to take it off the table and consult with a third party unbiased and nonaffiliated with either Easystreet or The Rx.com

I decided to track down and seek the professional opinion of an expert in the field of the use of robots and other software designed to defraud Casinos such as Easystreet’s Casino video poker game. Including other not pertinent to this dispute games such as on-line casino blackjack, roulette etc..

5. I asked him to provide for me a detailed report as brief but thorough as possible which could easily be understood in layman’s terms.

I submit that report now as my final reason that convinced me that Easystreet's clearly posted rules were broken by Cory during the 499 minutes of play mentioned above.

I will field all reasonable questions directed to either the Expert in the field or myself until 5PM EDT on Friday, April 8<sup>th</sup>, after which I will lock this thread.

Pleased be advised only civil posts containing logical on topic questions will be allowed in this thread. I will also scrutinize any new registration that obviously only registers here at The Rx.com with the intention of criticizing myself, The Rx.com, Easystreetsports.com or my decision in general. I have no problem with known Rx posters posting questions in a civil manner. Please post any opinions in the other thread already in existence here in The Offshore Forum titled "Easystreet".

The communique posted below is copied verbatim from the contracted expert in the appropriate field that deals solely with Cory1111's play in The Easystreetsports.com Casino during the 499 minutes described above.

From the expert in the field already described:

My Background:
6 years as a Gaming Engineer and Software architect in the US. Projects include Wynn, Encore, Caesars Palace, Native Games America and IGT/Acres platform support.

Research and Conclusion:

Based on my independent research into the issue I have come to the following conclusions.

1) A human did not play the 8762 hands of video poker that were examined. This conclusion is based on the fact that the "player" played an avg. of 17.6 hands of video poker per minute for 499 minutes without a single error. This is a statistical impossibility.

2) It's been stated that perhaps the auto-play feature was in use at the time and that the "player" was simply using the auto play feature to achieve his abnormally high rate of perfect play. This feature was verified to NOT be enabled and consequently unless the player somehow breached the platform security (nothing suggests this occurred), toggled the feature on, set a more advanced strategy than is currently available to that feature, toggled the feature off, and then wiped the logs; this as well is very unlikely.

3) The "player" had no apparent reaction to hitting the 3 royals (in fact playing straight through the royals at a continued rate of ~3 seconds per hand) and was unable to accurately answer whether he was dealt a royal (as he stated) or that he held 2 cards and then received a royal (which he did).

4) The odds of a player hitting a single royal flush is roughly 1 in 40,000. The odds of a dealt royal flush (the player stated he received a dealt royal flush) is 1 in 649,740. The odds of hitting 3 royal flushes in 8762 hands of poker is statistically impossible. In fact in all of the years I've been in gaming I've NEVER seen that happen (and I've reviewed millions of hands of poker).

5) Load tests on the system show an average screen draw time of approx 1.3 seconds, this leaves only 1.7 seconds for the "player" to recognize all of the cards on screen, compute optimal strategy, physically issue whatever action he wanted, and the system to receive that action and begin a new hand. While possible (though incredibly unlikely), it's even less likely that the "player" could keep the rate of play up with no discernible alteration in strategy, timing, etc for 136 minutes (which was the longest non interrupted play period).

6) Based on my review of the play logs, research of the EasyStreet system, and discussions with other industry professionals; it is my professional opinion that the player used a bot or some other form of machine augmented assistance to play the hands at a rate fast enough to attempt to overwhelm the RNG and provide favorable odds to the "player".

I will continue my research into this issue and release any future findings as well to the appropriate entities.

If there are any questions please direct them to the RX who will direct them to me.

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Barring the uncovering of any further pertinent information regarding this matter my decision is final. I have no problem addressing questions from Rxers directed at myself or the expert in the field and posting any responses again verbatim furnished to me by the expert who did the research detailed above until the as mentioned Friday, April 8th at 5PM EDT deadline, at which time I will lock this thread.

The other thread on the subject will remain open as well as the thread posted by Rx poster Defying. Any new threads that involve this matter will be merged with the original "Easystreet" thread.

Thank you, Wilheim
 

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FYI - I am off very shortly at 7PM EDT (began the day prior to 4AM EDT) if I do not get back to you tonight I will tomorrow..In the meantime The Rx.com night mods will monitor this thread but will not answer questions directed to the expert (naturally) or any directed to myself.


Thank you, wilheim
 

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I don't see how, after all that info, people can side with the player here. Good work Wil.
 

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Nice job, Wil. I support the decision. Using a bot was clearly against EZ's terms and conditions.
 

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5) Load tests on the system show an average screen draw time of approx 1.3 seconds, this leaves only 1.7 seconds for the "player" to recognize all of the cards on screen, compute optimal strategy, physically issue whatever action he wanted, and the system to receive that action and begin a new hand. While possible (though incredibly unlikely), it's even less likely that the "player" could keep the rate of play up with no discernible alteration in strategy, timing, etc for 136 minutes (which was the longest non interrupted play period).


1.7 seconds is a lot of time to make this very basic decision.

But I will say this like I have said from the beginning.

I dont know Cory and I dont know EZ

This is a classic case of he said she said.

There is no way with presented evidence that Cory can prove his innocence or guilt.
There is no way EZ with presented evidence that EZ can prove there innocence or guilt.

So with that being said, the defendant(cory) is innocent till proven guilty in my book.

Kind of like the WVU $1000 bet to win $14000
Although I HIGHLY doubt that WVU would have paid the 14K, and there were many reasons to believe he would not have, the poster(cant remember his name) would have stiffed WVU if poster would not have paid. It would have been an official stiff job by the poster.

One final thing.

I wonder why things like this never happens at:

Bookmaker
5Dimes
Pinnacle
Thegreek
Betjam

Maybe its because if they were(and im sure things have happened to them like this before)in the same situation they would have paid the 46K and nobody would have heard a word about it.

Thats why they are the best, and everyone else is pretenders.
 
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Interesting information for sure....

Wil, you did a Great job on a tough Case.

Thank you(<)<
 
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This conclusion is based on the fact that the "player" played an avg. of 17.6 hands of video poker per minute for 499 minutes without a single error. This is a statistical impossibility.
The odds of hitting 3 royal flushes in 8762 hands of poker is statistically impossible.

17.6 hands/minute works out to 1,056 per hour; don't know about online but in a brick and mortar casino, that rate of play with perfect strategy on a simple game such as JOB is difficult, but entirely possible.

The second statement is absolutely false. Highly unlikely, but nowhere near impossible; it's happened to me several times.

The obvious question is would EasyStreet have refunded the poster's money if he had used a bot and lost? I don't know what the paytables are on this game but most JOB games, without rebates, are -EV and using a bot can't change that. Using a bot would cause one to play faster and, in the long run, lose more.
 

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Most hands require less then .2 seconds to make a decision and move on to the redraw. LOTS of hands is simply waiting for the last card to be dealt and then starting a new hand instantly.

Even the most complex hands where you keep only 1 or 2 cards out of 5 takes less then .7 seconds.

This even leaves you room to go use the quick bathroom every once in a while.

This is not only not imposable, it is probably the norm, especially if the software has auto hold.

Does anyone know if EZ has auto hold.

Lets say you have 3of a kind on your 1st draw. Does it automatically keep you 3 cards without having to press hold?

If it does have auto hold. I could probably play almost double the amount of hands that EZ says is not do-able in an hour.

With that said, cory does not look like a saint either, but thats not the point.
 

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Im done here before I get banned.
I dont have anything to do with this anyway.
Thank God I dont play video poker anymore, or any other form of online betting seriously anymore.
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Most hands require less then .2 seconds to make a decision and move on to the redraw. LOTS of hands is simply waiting for the last card to be dealt and then starting a new hand instantly.

Even the most complex hands where you keep only 1 or 2 cards out of 5 takes less then .7 seconds.

This even leaves you room to go use the quick bathroom every once in a while.

This is not only not imposable, it is probably the norm, especially if the software has auto hold.

Does anyone know if EZ has auto hold.

Lets say you have 3of a kind on your 1st draw. Does it automatically keep you 3 cards without having to press hold?

If it does have auto hold. I could probably play almost double the amount of hands that EZ says is not do-able in an hour.

With that said, cory does not look like a saint either, but thats not the point.


Hope you are kidding with the Bathroom comment...:ohno:

and i believe there was No Auto Hold
 

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Hope you are kidding with the Bathroom comment...:ohno:

and i believe there was No Auto Hold

If it had auto hold you could, if you took a real quick piss. LOL
If not auto hold, probably not, but wont say it could not be done.
 

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Please use the Easystreet thread for non question statements or criticisms of my decision. You can look there for any posts no longer in this thread, they will be moved going forward.

Kindly address the neutral third party experts investigation post or my comments here backed up with an actual question please.

Comments and remarks etc can be posted in the linked Easystreet thread by clicking on one of the two links I created in this post.

Expect to have legitimate questions to the expert in the field or myself to begin to be addressed tomorrow.

Thank you, wilheim
 

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Wil, did the 3rd party expert review the actual play logs of EVERY hand??
 

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Why must a player prove their innocence in order to get paid?
Is that the new standard in theRx's view for future disputes or must a book generally prove its accusation?
 

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Has it been mentioned anywhere what other bigger winners in Easy's Casino have been paid, and some of those amounts?

Even if not this big an amount, I'm still sure there has to have been a few, or possibly several.
And if that info is listed somewhere, or made public it would make it more clear or evident that it would make no sense for Easystreet to single out one specific player, or winner, unless there was suspicion of foul play or a very good reason.

Wal Mart employs thousands and thousands of African Americans.

If one African Amercian files a claim out of the blue stating Wal Mart is discriminating against him because he's black, does that mean we should all automatically assume that Wal Mart is racist based on one incident, or accusation, vs thousands and thousands of no-complaints?
 

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My only point is this.....

So what if Easystreet provided proof that they have paid other big or bigger casino winners.

Say there are numerous bigger winners that HAVE been paid.

Every online casino has manyyy losers.........And manyyy winners....

Why would they suddenly decide NOT to pay one random player and risk making themselves look bad, without good reason?
 
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