This year he really has a greater chance to succeed.....
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This year he really has a greater chance to succeed.....
I'd take the field here. I still think Tiger's going to win a couple more majors, but it won't be this one.
The field looks good here; get down to cash.
Because Tiger is in as the clubhouse leader..Originally Posted by Drunken Horseplayer
Scores are going be higher this afternoon.
Field looks worse after round 2 ----
Cha-ching; congrats to the field on a job well done.
I think it's about time they start making Tiger part of the Field, because this Tiger vs the World stuff isn't working.
Bump
I can only point to golfers who have won majors after the age of 38.....I still believe Tiger does it but probably after age 40.....
Nicklaus and Woods both had 14 Majors at age 38. But even if Tiger recovers 100%, because of the depth of talent on tour now, it is hard for anyone to repeat as a Major winner. Plus the one HUGE thing that Tiger doesn't have anymore is his intimidating mystique.
and the putter never comes back
Even if his putter comes back, the USGA has
"Tiger Proofed" golf courses so much over the last 10 years that Tiger doesn't have the advantage of length anymore. And the fairways are narrower. Like I said, the depth of the PGA Tour is his biggest obstacle after his health. I look at it this way. How many more teams would have Superbowl trophies if there were only 10 teams in the NFL as opposed to 32? Depth is a big issue. He can still win the minor tournaments. But the big boys from all over the world come out for these majors. The only major that I think Tiger will have his best chance to win year after year is the Masters because of it's limited field. But even there, the field is limited to the best.
My problem with all the "Tiger talk" over the years has been a familiar problem.
People were so anxious to promote him as the next coming of Jesus Christ, they lost all track of how to be rational. With the far too many outlets for sports news.... fans become more and more likely to want to recognize someone as the greatest of all time. Here's the thing people.... ALL TIME IS A LONG TIME!!!!
I have no problem admitting that Tiger has been an outstanding player in his own time and against the available competition. It was always way too soon to hear all the crap about how he was gonna pass Jack's record number of majors. "Premature jocularity" as Keith Olberman says.
Tiger apparently got to believing his own press clippings, letting his hose misbehave, and unfortunately there you have it. He blew up the life he had. Even as big of a prick as I am sure he has been..... all this still may have had an effect on him to just piss away his life as it was with his wife and children. Who knows if he took roids (which I think there is very little doubt ... HE DID), even if he did run with a litany of hookers and such.... whatever the reasons his body is starting to break down more and more.
He was NEVER really in position to challenge Jack's record anyway.... at least not yet as of the time years ago when all the morons started insisting it would happen.
If anything Tiger proofing a golf course has helped him.. He hasn't been close the last few years leading the tour in length.. Nobody recently talks length with Tigers game..They talk laying it up because he can't hit it straight
It's not really as much about length as it is well placed bunkers around 300 yards out and narrower fairways. Tiger's -21 at Augusta embarassed the bluebloods who run the Masters. They made sure we would probably never see that kind of score again. I also doubt we'll ever see a 15 strokes win in the U.S. Open again either. "Tiger Proofing" has brought the fields of long knockers closer together.
Over the last several years, the "well placed bunkers " would help Tiger, not hurt him.. Tiger for the most part is not driving 300+ to reach those bunkers..the 3 wood is Tiger's only comfortable club of choice off the tee.. He is laying up out of necessity
Your talking about very recent form. Don't kid yourself, Tiger still has the length when he's healthy.
He probably does still have the length GS.. But he doesn't trust it anymore with good reason..
Point is, they brought fields closer together by Tiger Proofing. They don't want to see the Bubba Watson's and Adam Scott's overpowering the majors and shooting another -21. That will most likely never happen again. Even McIlroy's -12 a couple years ago was very embarassing to the officials who set up that course. BUT, they weren't expecting all of those rains and soft greens. Plus it wasn't exactly the toughest US Open venue.
[ I don't think Tiger will break Jack's mark, but Jack is still publicly saying that he thinks Tiger will... ]
Nicklaus: Tiger will break mark
Updated: April 8, 2014, 11:26 AM ET
Nicklaus Says Tiger Will Break His Record
Tiger Woods has been stuck on 14 majors since winning the 2008 U.S. Open, and that won't change anytime soon as he won't compete in the Masters and into the summer after having back surgery late last month.
But Jack Nicklaus -- who holds the record of 18 victories in golf's Grand Slam events -- still thinks Woods eventually will break that mark and get to his goal of 19.
"I feel very bad for Tiger. He's really worked towards my record," Nicklaus said Tuesday on "Mike & Mike" on ESPN Radio. "I still think he'll break my record.
"As long as he is physically able to do it. ... He's 38 years old and he's probably got another 10 years at least of being able to compete -- that's 40 more majors to win five of them. It shouldn't be too difficult.
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"But then again, I've always said he's just gotta do it. It's gonna be difficult, but if I said anything different I think I would be a jerk. So I think I better say he will do that ... and I actually believe that."
Woods had microdiscectomy surgery to alleviate discomfort caused by a pinched nerve March 31. His schedule for the summer -- including the U.S. Open and Open Championship -- is still very much in doubt. Woods is also just three wins shy of tying Sam Snead's career mark for PGA Tour victories (82).
"It's tough right now, but I'm absolutely optimistic about the future," Woods said in a statement after the surgery.
"There are a couple of records by two outstanding individuals and players that I hope one day to break. As I've said many times, Sam [Snead] and Jack [Nicklaus] reached their milestones over an entire career. I plan to have a lot of years left in mine."
VD,
I'll let you buy me out of this bet for $145.
VD,
I'll let you buy me out of this bet for $145.
It doesn't look good.....lol
I think Tiger will survive and continue to live life as he pleases......
NEVER in position? That is absurd.....
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