A Deeper look at the On Line Poker Crackdown.

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http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf





Manhattan U.S. Attorney PREET BHARARA said: "As
charged, these defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud
scheme,
alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively
bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in
illegal gambling profits.



Now is this a strke against online poker playing or against people whom circumvented the law by tricking and bribing banks to allow them to process payments and offer these services in the first place? Just because something is popular with the public does not give the right for companies to flout banking lawas anywhere in the world I am aware of. You?


I dont get where Barney Frank comes from when he says this crackdown is a waste of time. Whats a waste of time, Barney? You did read this simply worded complaint didn't you?



Moreover, as we allege, in their zeal to circumvent the gambling laws, the defendants also engaged in massive money laundering and bank fraud. Foreign firms that choose to operate in the United States are not free to flout the laws they don’t like simply because they can’t bear to be parted
from their profits.



Greed does kill folks. And you fed that greed by sending your money to these sites thinking the whole time the DOJ would do nothing about it. You were lulled to sleep that sports would be shut down and poker would get through unscathed in the end and all would win the day. FOOLS.


United States Citizens ARE NOT FREE TO FLOUT GAMBLING LAWS THEY DONT LIKE simply because they want to gamble on line at will and pontentialy make a profit. Get it through your heads. We live in a responsible international gaming world now and Its going to stay that way!!!



They lied to banks about the true nature of their
business. Then, some of the defendants found banks willing to
flout the law for a fee.
The defendants bet the house that they
could continue their scheme, and they lost."


Thats the death nell right there. Willing and active searching out of weak banks to continue an illegal criminal enterprise at the expense of the american people will not be tolerated.



On October 13, 2006, the United States enacted the
Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act ("UIGEA"), making it a
federal crime for gambling businesses to "knowingly accept" most
forms of payment "in connection with the participation of another
person in unlawful Internet gambling."
Despite the passage of
UIGEA, the Poker Companies, located offshore, continued operating
in the United States. In a press release dated October 16, 2006,
Absolute Poker announced that the company would continue its U.S.
operations because "the U.S. Congress has no control over" the
company’s payment transactions.



They lined themselves up right from the start. How arrogant is that statement?


Because U.S. banks and credit card issuers were largely
unwilling to process their payments, the Poker Companies
allegedly used fraudulent methods to circumvent federal law and
trick these institutions into processing payments on their
behalf. For example, defendants ISAI SCHEINBERG and PAUL TATE of
PokerStars, RAYMOND BITAR and NELSON BURTNICK of Full Tilt Poker,
and SCOTT TOM and BRENT BECKLEY of Absolute Poker, arranged for
the money received from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments
to hundreds of non-existent online merchants purporting to sell
merchandise such as jewelry and golf balls.
Of the billions of
dollars in payment transactions that the Poker Companies tricked
U.S. banks into processing, approximately one-third or more of
the funds went directly to the Poker Companies as revenue through
the "rake" charged to players on almost every poker hand played
online.




Thats translates into collecting profits throgh the back door up front and not paying any taxes on it. Worse it looks like the monies dumped into the same primary accounts making it easy to know not just how much,but how much was disperesed to the stable of stars and advertisers. I will presume in the future we will start hearing some real numbers as the international tax man raises his head and says wait a minute, whats going on here? Worse, many we have not heard about were on the take to and are either on the run also or will be running soon. Its going to get ugly. Brace yourselves.


As alleged in the Indictment, to accomplish their
fraud, the Poker Companies worked with an array of highly
compensated "payment processors" – including defendants RYAN
LANG, IRA RUBIN, BRADLEY FRANZEN, and CHAD ELIE – who obtained
-2accounts at U. S. banks for the Poker Companies.
The payment
processors lied to banks about the nature of the financial
transactions they were processing, and covered up those lies, by,
among other things, creating phony corporations and websites to
disguise payments to the Poker Companies. For example, a
PokerStars document from May 2009 acknowledged that they received
money from U.S. gamblers through company names that "strongly
imply the transaction has nothing to do with PokerStars," and
that PokerStars used whatever company names "the processor can
get approved by the bank.




WHY IS THIS OK FOR THESE PEOPLE TO DO THIS JUST SO YOU CAN CAUSUALLY GAMBLE ONLINE?? I dont get it. You are a VICTIM HOW EXACTLY? They did it for you, you know. NOW YOU WANT TO BLAME THE DOJ FOR DOING THIER JOB??? GTFO.


Exactly how is this suppressing your freedom and rights. WHAT ABOUT THE NORMAL PEOPLE in the world whom dont gamble period, but, have accounts at these weak finacial places. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE OF THE BANKS GO UNDER BECAUSE THE POKER MONEY IS GONE. Did you think about that at all?? Or is it all about you as always and you just dont care??





By late 2009, after U.S. banks and financial
institutions detected and shut down multiple fraudulent bank
accounts used by the Poker Companies, SCHEINBERG and BITAR
developed a new processing strategy that would not involve lying
to banks. PokerStars, FullTilt Poker, and their payment
processors persuaded the principals of a few small, local banks
facing financial difficulties to engage in such processing in
return for multi-million dollar investments in the banks.
For
example, in September 2009, ELIE and others approached defendant
JOHN CAMPOS, the Vice Chairman of the Board and part-owner of
SunFirst Bank, a small, private bank based in Saint George, Utah,
about processing Internet poker transactions. While expressing
"trepidations," CAMPOS allegedly agreed to process gambling
transactions in return for a $10 million investment in SunFirst
by ELIE and an associate, which would give them a more than 30%
ownership stake in the bank. CAMPOS also requested and received
a $20,000 "bonus" for his assistance. In an e-mail, one of
ELIE’s associates boasted that they had "purchased" SunFirst and
that they "were looking to purchase" "a grand total of 3 or 4
banks" to process payments.




You created a monster. Accept your role and responsiblity in this matter and move on with your lives. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM. YOU VICTIMIZED YOURSELVES.
 

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Dummies. Dont they know you arent allowed to trick them there banks.

Only the banksters are allowed to be the tricksters, silly wabbit.
 

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SB, I agree with more than one of the points you make here but saying "you victimized yourselves" is a bit harsh isn't it? If you offer people something that they love to do of course they're going to accept your offer the majority of the time. People love to play poker for real money and that's what these sites offered. I "victimize myself" every morning by waking up to a cup of coffee and a cigarette but unfortunately for me I enjoy these things so i will keep doing them. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is unfair to point a finger at people or accuse them of victimizing themselves for simply participating in something they enjoy and have a passion for. My personal opinion is that it will save me money so I'm actually happy it's over. I love poker and have a passion for poker but playing online was a constant losing battle for me and ironically enough I do very well in live cash games which brings up another topic, if these companies were so unethical when it came to processing financial transactions now more than ever I must believe these sites were rigged one way or another.
 

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SB, I agree with more than one of the points you make here but saying "you victimized yourselves" is a bit harsh isn't it? If you offer people something that they love to do of course they're going to accept your offer the majority of the time. People love to play poker for real money and that's what these sites offered. I "victimize myself" every morning by waking up to a cup of coffee and a cigarette but unfortunately for me I enjoy these things so i will keep doing them. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is unfair to point a finger at people or accuse them of victimizing themselves for simply participating in something they enjoy and have a passion for. My personal opinion is that it will save me money so I'm actually happy it's over. I love poker and have a passion for poker but playing online was a constant losing battle for me and ironically enough I do very well in live cash games which brings up another topic, if these companies were so unethical when it came to processing financial transactions now more than ever I must believe these sites were rigged one way or another.



1.Its a matter of perspective. On a personal level you are exactly right it is harsh. But as an intitution, it is the truth. It was taken for granted and no one ever talked seriously about the risk of this happening and very certainly did not plan for it to fall out suddenly. The people in the buisness as a whole are deeply interconnected and interdepndent and a great deal has been lost. The fallout is going to be brutal. The stand to reasons are scary even to me. BRACE YOURSELVES.



What sparked this was the crying by the media and the many sob stories I read where people were acting and talking like victims without knowing the facts. Add Barney Franks non sensical rant and there you go.
 

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Agreed. I laughed when I first saw this. One low level bank exec gets indicted because the US. Attorney says the banks were tricked? That is the most laughable thing I have ever heard. These banks knew exactly what was going on and chose to look the other way because they were making so much money. Do you thing a bunch of guys without any degrees tricked these banks? Do you really think the banks thought an on-line merchant of golf balls and jewelry would be moving that much money through the banks? Are these the same banks taxpayers gave billions to bail out with still no prosecutions?

The same thing happened wit Paypal when they were forced to pay a $10 million dollar fine for violating the Patriot Act and Wire wager Act. No prosecutions just a fine which was most likely much less than the money they actually made on all of these transactions. The same thing will happen again. Banks will look the other way because there is so much money to be made, get slapped on the wrist and pay a fine less then they profited and do it all over again. If you don't go after the bank execs this will never stop.


Dummies. Dont they know you arent allowed to trick them there banks.

Only the banksters are allowed to be the tricksters, silly wabbit.
 

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